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http://www.ihra.com/article/730.html

nice article for sportsman to think about

I personally thanked Mike for making the call at Mooresville even though it didn't work out best for me it was the best call for the racer. Even if the sun had been out all day Sunday given the information they had on Saturday they made the right call. I was only 80 miles from home so if it had rained out for me going back wasn't that big of a deal. Thanks again Mike and Mark for looking out for the racer.

Herb Jr

Kind of interesting the way IHRA likes to bash another sanctioning body.
Sounds typical for the low class IHRA management.
Yea, lets compare a second rate division event in the bush league to a national event in the major leauge.
If it wasn't for Mike Baker, they may as well close the doors. He is the only thing holding sportsman racing together in that mess called IHRA.

Personally I feel like maybe the folks that are so hard on IHRA and so gung ho NHRA actually look down upon racers that choose to run IHRA. There isn't anything really "bush league" about IHRA sportsman racing. If you think those of us who participate are such second rate folks, why not meet us at some track somewhere and race us index vs. index for some interesting wager.

I think IHRA is working hard to secure the sportsman racer and I appreciate what they do. We have been teched in both bodies and the IHRA tech we got for the record at Clay CIty was more extensive than the fabled WESLEY tech we got at Ohio Valley....

We may be second rate, but I'd almost bet we can go as far under the index as you Smokey...

Peace, Rev. Mopar - David Koopman.

Sometimes the obvious or the truth really hurts eh smokey?
Ya dickhead closet nhra glendora staffer!

I posted this in the .90 section before I saw this thread. Someone give us an answer to this question. I think this would be over the top even for NHRA, but lately I don't think anything they did would surprise me.

I just read it in the article, but is it true? The sportsman racers were told they would be fined $250 for trying to leave the facility with "their own property"???? That sounds like a field day for a lawyer if I ever heard of one. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Joe Pinkston
2155 S/ST

That's a new one.... Now you have to pay to leave? WOW... Gotta be more to the story than that... What do you mean -fined $250 for taking your own property? Put it in context or we'll have WAY too much fun with this one....

Peace, Rev. Mopar

I read the IHRA letter. Wasnt @ either race, but it is obvious IHRA is much more cosiderate of the ones who bring them the most money.
As far as anyone or any sanction being a second rate, that is the goofiest thing I have ever heard! I live in a part of the country where I can and do race both, (IHRA and NHRA), the competition is the same, the people, the cars are the same, the only difference is the staff and the facility.

I have never had a bad experience @ either, well, except for the 2 years in a row @ Columbus when I had to have a tractor pul my motor home, trailer and race car out of a lake. Many people can only race a particular sanction according to what part of th country they live in. So no one should be judged for there racing ability by where they choose to live. If you do, and you race the so called second class racer in your mind, you most likely will get a good ol *** kicken on the track!

Smoky, You are an ***!

Rev. Mopar;

What I mean is this. It is my race car, my trailer and my tow vehichle....and I am going to be fined $250 for trying to leave the race track with "my property"???

Didn't mean to cause any misunderstanding.

Joe Pinkston
2155 S/ST

The terms Extortion & Kidnapping come to mind!!!! Tell me I have to pay you
$250 to leave? A call to the FBI could have cured that !!
My car broke week before Houston & I had to cancel my entry...I hafta say Im glad it broke. I dont think Ive ever heard anything good about that track.
If they have that much trouble with mud, they need to leave NHRA & start running Mud Bogs & Monster Trucks.


Ford-Lite
Half the Cylinders & No Carbs

Does anybody but me find it strange that NO racer that was actually there said anything about this ??? And there have been a few on this board that were there and NOTHING was said !!!
I'll believe it when I hear it from an actual racer that was there,not from IHRA's website !!
Sounds fishy to me.....

I attended the race. I was aware of the schedule change for Sun., so I was tardy going out there since I live less than an hour away. Therefore, I "personally" did not hear the annoucement, but was informed via cellphone that it was indeed made. However, I saw several rigs being towed out, and leaving, so I don't know!!!

As far as IHRA/NHRA I agree with T-Hall Ilive in div. 3 & I see not much differance between the to......other then I don't like the dubble headder thing. I can't cut on one or the other ...both have things I like & dislike.

novamoation

When I ran the IHRA DIV-4 pro-am in san antonio a couple of weeks ago The Emmons boys,Cummings INC, Fred Hensen,Blackmon bros , etc
were there. The next week Fletcher,Helms,Bertozzi,Cummings,Stillings, etc were there. The last time I checked these guys weren't bush league. If you think they are stage your car against them and find out in person.

Ed Carpenter

66 Chevy II

4244 SS/H

Busch league, jump in the waters good. It's tough anywhere anymore. This is the second race in a year where they made the Saturday call. They did it at Piedmont last year where they were calling for 90% chance of rain on Sunday. They finished the race about 10pm Saturday night and Sunday morning the rain was pouring down. I support the call and the article.

Herb Jr

NHRA does have a standing rule ( in the pro pits only) that no rig can be moved until one hour after the final run is made.This is an safety issue with the spectators. In Houston , I feel NHRA did not want to track the return road with mud from the sportmans rigs.

Greg

NHRA does have a standing rule ( in the pro pits only) that no rig can be moved until one hour after the final run is made.This is an safety issue with the spectators. In Houston , I feel NHRA did not want to track the return road with mud from the sportmans rigs.

Greg

I've been to IHRA events where leaving from the pits is prohibited during certain hours during the running of the event, and it has nothing to do with mud. I find it very unusual that someone from the IHRA felt it necessary to take a shot at the NHRA on this matter.

I hope the writer from IHRA didn't break his arm psatting himself on the back !!!
BUT......NHRA had a TV Schedule to meeet. IHRA.....TV ???
Because of HRP's location near the Bayou they have a naturally high water level. And then the evening dew that was coming in there was NO way to run the rest of the classes that evening !!!!
So the "writer" is WAY off base and comparing "apples & oranges"..

I wasn't there, don't know about a threat of a fine but NHRA did publicly state that no racer would be allowed to leave the grounds on Sunday until the race had completed:

http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp...19407&zoneid=8



Tim Kish
3032 SS/GS - 1999 Dodge Neon
Yep - a FWD Super Stocker

Isn't it funny how some racers will bash NHRA about oil down $$$, increased entry, purse being lower etc etc, but then get mad when something like this article comes out.


Herb Jr

Was the article on the IHRA website signed by the writer? I'm wondering if the management at IHRA would condone this kind of journalism? It just doesn't sound like something the folks I know at IHRA would approve of.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the article, but in the region where I live (SC), it's just not acceptable for a professional or company to publicly bash a competitor. One lets the customer make his own decisions based on fair competition.

I know where IHRA began and I hope the ethics have not changed.



Bill Howell

Thanks for the link to the article. It is really hard to understand why the IHRA would allow such a childish attack on NHRA to be published. In my opinion it only serves to diminsh the professionali image that they are striving to maintain. I work for NAPA and I would never consider publically bashing my competitor (Carquest ) in such a public manner.I chuckle at certain things they do but I want my customers to view my store as a progressive business... Grow up ! to whoever is responsible for that article.

Is it NOT STRANGE that people at the Houston race don't know about this BUT a hack in IHRA does ????

Why quote my post. Please be more specific. I'm not bashing anyone, I was at Mooresville and it was a good call given the forcast. Same call Piedmont Dragway made last year. Give more insight.

Herb Jr

That couldnt have been the trailer I was hanging out at because we didnt go to bed until 4am. But it was 145 before we got back to the trailer after having Jamie's decals checked. I was parked next to the return road just up from ET shack, where were you parked.

Herb Jr

Yeah thats why there was a record number of sportsman racers at Norwalk last year!!!

Jeremy Erny
Professional Touch Lawn and Landscape

The main reason I run NHRA is because their schedule is convienient for us living here in north central Florida. 4 of the 6 division 2 LODRS races are within a 3 hour drive for us. Other than that, I would not have any problem running the IHRA Pro-Am series. My wife and I own a small business and have 5 kids between us. We don't take any real vacation time to speak of, so the 6 trips a year we make to the LODRS races are really our vacation. If we lived a little farther north and IHRA would go away from the double up races, I would gladly run those.

As far as IHRA being a bush league series, I would fit right in. We tow the car on a open trailer that is probably 25 years old. It is towed by an old "cousin eddie" looking motor home that we paid $3500 for a few years ago. It isn't much, but we have not been sitting on the side of the road broke down with it so far, and it gives us a place to sleep at the track, and to be out of the weather. I have no spare engine or transmission for the car, but with 5 kids.....1 in college and 4 still at home, I feel fortunate to have what I do have. I sure don't do this for the money, thats why I have a day job. So I'm not worried about who pays better, all I want is to be treated half way decent and be able to have a good time with my friends, and if I never win a dime I've still had a great time.

Joe Pinkston
2155 S/ST

the fine at huston was to keep mud down on return roads so pro's wouldn't get there tires dirty.
i run (crew now) at both and had much more late night noise at nhra than ihra

wonder why Mr. North is so hostle at ihra racer (get drilled first round a lot ? )

drop the personal bashing and keep it to the scantion bodys
both have +'s and -'s all the racers have class well most do

jim

They were trying to keep from making a bad situation even worse. I got there (HRP) at 9:30 this morning and they had the tractor out trying to get everyone out of the mud. Thave had an additional 4-5 inches of rain on Tues-Wed. About 10:30 they passed out a sheet that said the race would be completed on Thur. before the Dallas points meet next week. 1 time run at 4:00PM and run eliminations until complete. There is an 80% chance of more rain tomorrow with temps in high 40s. They still had a lot of motorhomes and trailers to get out of the mud when I left at noon.

Gary

Peter we cooked what was to be dinner at 2am and I promise you we didnt make any noise. I guess you were parked in the field as there were some partyers over there. I plainly said in my post it was 4am when we got to bed and you called me a moron. I usually have 2 boys with me ages 7 and 11 so I know what its like to have family racing. Next time grow some balls and go over to whomever is making noise and say something instead of bytching on a keyboard. I said I was parked on the return road just up from the ET shack. Homer Carty and Jamie Southards were parked next to me.

Herb Jr

Hey peter, where you even at Mooresville? Just wondering.... 38 SS cars is a far cry from 12. IF you really where there, and IHRA is BUSCH League How many rounds did YOU go?

The Sportsman car counts at Norwalk this year won't match those last year because NHRA requires grade points and limits entries, IHRA does not. Since the Pro pits will take up a lot more space than they did last year, that's a good thing because the pits were overflowing last year.

- Larry

BPOTTS there was a group of Partiers in the field at Mooresville and either he heard of it or he heard it. The thing is he wasn't on the qualifing sheet so is he using his real name?

Herb Jr

Herb,
Peter North is a porn star known as " The Cumshot Legend". I found this out by simply typing the name into Google. Isn't it funny how someone can have a good enough sence of humor to use a porn stars name, but cant understand why some people enjoy their weekend by partying all night after a win. Mabee you were interupting his jerk session as he is obviously addicted to male porn.

If you have to ask maybe you should try another website!!! wow.

Jeremy Erny
Professional Touch Lawn and Landscape

Herb, I think its funny how someone will come on here and call-out the IHRA racers, but doesn't use his real name. Come on Peter North, tell us your real name so we can ALL know what a big shot NHRA racer you are.......

Mr North
i do not crew for a "pro team"
i run (ran) a s/st , h/r car till i crashed it testing for move to s/g ,s/r in 2000
i crew/truck drive for john's tennessee thunder car e/fi/a
crewed for john going on 39 years now
jim blankenship

Peter North, don't be coming on this site or any other and start bashing other racers you don't know anything about. I meet Herb jr. at mooresville and a very fine upstanding young racer. So until you post with a real name and what you race keep commits about other racers in the IHRA to your self. Herb you are ok in my book.
eddie wilson
[:-devil-:]

Father Time

Sounds like Peter North likes to shoot off his mouth more than his D##K.