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mykids 06-25-2015 07:49 AM

M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
GOOD MORNING - After quite a few updates almost done and looking forward to taking the Dakota to the NED Division 1 Race coming up in July I would like to purchase a fresh set of Slick's to compare to our current M/T Radial 9x30x15 tires. I am sure that this is a subject that has been talked about over and over but with today's technology I was curious if anyone has made any comparison run's to make a decision if there is any advantage to one of the MFG's - Thank's in advance for your input

Larry Hill 06-25-2015 08:12 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
On my car the Goodyear 4457 were faster than the C07. I have not tried the M/T tires. I got 230 runs out of a set of 4457 and still had good check hole depth. I think Jeff Longhany is going to mount the tires that have 230 runs and see how fast they are on his car.

j gardiner 06-25-2015 11:22 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Make sure you compare old tires to old tires and new tires to new tires. My new tires always seem a couple hundreths slower than the old ones.

Larry Hill 06-25-2015 01:39 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
it was a fair test new vs new, same track same day, all runs made in less than one hour 4457 and C07.

countrypuppy4865 06-25-2015 01:42 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
I havent tried M/T personally, but I have notice the people using them are changing them after 30-40 runs on higher HP cars. The 4457 Goodyear is the best tire I have used for date as far as traction, longevity, and ET. People claim the M/T is a little faster, but in my opinion, I think they may just be a little faster because they have a little less rollout. I haven't tried Hoosier either, but people seem to have good longevity with them as well. All of our cars use the 4457 Goodyear, including my firebird that has been low 1.20 60fts at mid 9's. I can easily get 200 runs on this car, and even when/if the tires get worn they still don't spin. I think Goodyear is the best all around tire on the market right now.

sugar1366 06-25-2015 01:58 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
So now that Competition Tire lost the deal, who are you guys getting your Goodyear tires from? Had to get M/T for my car because nobody is bringing a Goodyear trailer to the Northeast divisionals. Shelby enterprises took over the deal, and it doesn't seem they are very interested in providing track support. None of my warehouses stock the 4457 and Mail Order houses didn't seem to have them in stock either.

Eddie Bolton

countrypuppy4865 06-26-2015 07:41 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Eddie, Give Mart Lively a call at 4058213944.

Dragsinger 06-26-2015 08:29 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Jimmy,

What radial tire do you think for my Super 10?

*GT/TC about 3200 pounds with driver
* 6.0 rear gear, Powerglide, 1.98 low, 6500 + flash converter
* 327/300/285 expecting 580 or so horse
* 8200 - 8300 shift and finish line RPM
* expected ET 10.30 range

Thanks.

mykids 06-27-2015 08:11 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Thank's Everyone for the reply's - Larry what type of air pressure do you run and what is the weight of your car/truck - and do you run an 8"-9" rim -TY again

Ed Wright 06-27-2015 10:14 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragsinger (Post 474830)
Jimmy,

What radial tire do you think for my Super 10?

*GT/TC about 3200 pounds with driver
* 6.0 rear gear, Powerglide, 1.98 low, 6500 + flash converter
* 327/300/285 expecting 580 or so horse
* 8200 - 8300 shift and finish line RPM
* expected ET 10.30 range

Thanks.

I think they are talking 9" Stocker tires. My car's weight, etc, is not real different from yours. I have run all three. 13" X 31" radials. MT have been fastest on mine. Tested all three, same day. Goodyear hooked just as hard, but we're a consistent .04 slower, most of it in 330'. I attributed that to the Goodyears being 5lbs each heavier. 5 lbs on a 31" circle makes more difference than on something like a crankshaft. These MTs never go away. I run them until no wear holes, or I start to feel guilty about their age. LOL

Dragsinger 06-27-2015 02:51 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Thanks Ed.

THE LEGEND 06-28-2015 08:45 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
I'm running the 29/9 Mickey Thompson radial I put them on in March. currently have over a 100 passes the n them. It's a P/SA Cutlass

Daran Summerton 06-28-2015 10:57 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
There is a difference!!! We still have not been paid by M/T for our win. In addition there is only one tire now that pays for class win ---- Goodyears from now on for us.

countrypuppy4865 06-28-2015 11:26 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THE LEGEND (Post 474942)
I'm running the 29/9 Mickey Thompson radial I put them on in March. currently have over a 100 passes the n them. It's a P/SA Cutlass

I was referring to the 9" mt on higher hp cars. All tires will go more runs on lower hp cars. Also, they tend to be not as sensitive to tire selection.

Eric Merryfield 06-28-2015 01:55 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mykids (Post 474702)
GOOD MORNING - After quite a few updates almost done and looking forward to taking the Dakota to the NED Division 1 Race coming up in July I would like to purchase a fresh set of Slick's to compare to our current M/T Radial 9x30x15 tires. I am sure that this is a subject that has been talked about over and over but with today's technology I was curious if anyone has made any comparison run's to make a decision if there is any advantage to one of the MFG's - Thank's in advance for your input

I run the 9 inch lightweight hoosiers on my GT-TD dakota. Get new ones every other Atco Open, which is two complete seasons. 130-150 plus runs, never an issue. The rim and tire goes up on the wall as the emergency spares/need to go fast set. These are a 10 inch rim. Truck weighs 3500-50 lbs. And I do not do tire conserving burnouts either. If you go this route, the hoosier truck will be at the Epping divisional I think.

Eric

Greg Hill 06-28-2015 06:57 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Walk the staging lanes when there is a good car count of stockers and see what the higher class cars are running. More Hoosiers than the other two brands combined. We've run the C0-6 lightweights for the past 7 or 8 years. They work and they last.

Jacob Pitt 06-29-2015 09:50 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
I get about 100 passes out of the M/T 30*9 radials on the Barracuda. Usually change them once every year, usually around the time of the Motorplex Divisional. The cords are usually showing and that's the only reason I change them. They were .04 faster than the Hoosier radials that were on the car when we got it.

J.R. Haddad 06-29-2015 05:20 PM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Jacob, what size rim do you use with the M.T.'S, and what size rim did you use on the Hoosier's? Thanks, J.R.

Jacob Pitt 06-30-2015 08:24 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
They were both on a 8" rim J.R.

J.R. Haddad 07-01-2015 06:51 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Thanks Jacob. J.R.

Ed Wright 07-01-2015 08:59 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Pitt (Post 475141)
They were both on a 8" rim J.R.

Ever try 10" wheels, Jacob? When I first started playing with mine (It used to be my daily driver) I had 9" tires on it, running high nines. I back-to-backed (same day) two new sets of tires on 8" versus 10" wheels. Worth 2 to 3 hundredths in 60', same in 1/4 mile.

Wish I could drive like you.

Jacob Pitt 07-02-2015 08:53 AM

Re: M/t - hoosier - goodyear is there a proven difference
 
Thank you Ed! It has been a tough season so far with car issues and I've seem to be able to bring out the best in my opponents lately so round wins have been very hard to come by.
We do run a 10" wheel on the Volare but with the stance and narrow wheel wells of the Barracuda I don't feel the 10" wheel would fit very well. The car works so good as it is I would be apprehensive to change the suspension setup to get a little wider wheel on it.


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