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Myron Piatek 06-26-2015 11:38 PM

2016 Drag Pak
 
Looks like the fastest Mustangs and Camaros will have some more competition! Love the '71 styling. But I continue to have mixed emotions about the old classification debate.:rolleyes:




http://www.mopar.com/dodge/challenger/mopar-drag-pak/


http://www.nhra.com/story/2015/6/26/...-pak-revealed/

stickcarsrule 06-27-2015 12:03 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
great to see a blown drag pak.it will make fs more interesting.
i have mixed feelings about the debate.i think when i finally start my 6.1 from the factory ill be lucky to run 11s.

Myron Piatek 06-27-2015 07:57 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
2016 Drag Pak YouTube clips:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeiR7ksfGcI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UseCVLCTvG8

Chris1529 06-27-2015 09:32 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
you need one of these Myron.

Kegracing 06-27-2015 09:47 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
You order one yet Myron?

Even a hardcore Pontiac/Chevy guy like me would drive one of these! :)

Ken

Stock 412

Alan Roehrich 06-27-2015 10:20 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
I've always thought Chrysler did the best job on the retro cars. And in their own classes where they belong, the factory race cars are good.

Myron Piatek 06-27-2015 10:25 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Get one? I can barely afford to keep what I got going! Too many cars will be in the same classes to get into a financial HP war. As for driving, I hate to sound like a wuss, but I'd probably do better with an earlier version with a 5.9. Just being realistic.:( But I look forward to seeing these beat up on the other brands.

Troy Pourciau 06-27-2015 11:33 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
thats a good looking car. The interior is very nicely done.

Billy Nees 06-27-2015 12:29 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
I hope that we're looking at the future of Pro Stock.

Alan Roehrich 06-27-2015 12:52 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 474864)
I hope that we're looking at the future of Pro Stock.

I don't think Pro Stock could or will return to weight breaks and such, which is what is obviously required to have these cars together in one class.

Not that I think Pro Stock as it currently exists is a healthy class. It isn't.

Mike Pearson 06-27-2015 01:13 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 474867)
I don't think Pro Stock could or will return to weight breaks and such, which is what is obviously required to have these cars together in one class.

Not that I think Pro Stock as it currently exists is a healthy class. It isn't.

None of the pro classes are healthy. When force and Schumacher quit, retire or loose major sponsor money there is no one to fill the spots. Car counts have never been as low as I have seen this year across the board. Pro and Sportsman. Div 1 and 3 seem to be doing the best for sportsman car counts. Stock seems a bit better off than super stock at most events.

Brett C 06-27-2015 02:12 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Same car with updated rear & front plastics, interior, and the new shootout combos?

Billy Nees 06-27-2015 03:13 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 474867)
I don't think Pro Stock could or will return to weight breaks and such, which is what is obviously required to have these cars together in one class.

No weight breaks. Come up with a minimum weight that they all can make with fiberglass doors, fenders and hood. Put max displacement at 360 cubes and if it gets to be a problem, less for the 4 valve motors (330 sounds nice and easy). The top end and piston configuration must remain as from the Manufacturer. OEM floor pan with minimum backhalf for tire and 4 link clearence and OBTW, stock appearing hood scoop!
Dick Butler should LOVE it!

Alan Roehrich 06-27-2015 03:41 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Not bad, but not really workable. Rules that require teardown to enforce, and the ability of the factories to game the system. Neither of which will be popular. NHRA is not going to want to tear them down, and competitors are not going to like the idea of being obsolete every time one of the other companies decides to make a move. Not sure 360 cubic inches and a minimum weight as you propose will result in an ET/MPH that's going to please the average crowd (we're not the average crowd) either.

Andys dad 06-27-2015 07:16 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy Pourciau (Post 474858)
thats a good looking car. The interior is very nicely done.

Virtually a cookie cutter of our car including the interior but two new motor options

Good job MOPAR - took you long enough

Ron

SSGN 06-27-2015 08:35 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Nice car, as is all the new stuff. I am just surprised no one has come out with a turbo combination because it would make those blower cars slow overnight. :rolleyes:Blowers are not the in thing in any other form of drag racing right now. Turbo lag = the point in time you think you had a chance.:D

Kevin

Geerhead55 06-27-2015 08:47 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron Piatek (Post 474855)
Get one? I can barely afford to keep what I got going! Too many cars will be in the same classes to get into a financial HP war. As for driving, I hate to sound like a wuss, but I'd probably do better with an earlier version with a 5.9. Just being realistic.:( But I look forward to seeing these beat up on the other brands.

Myron,, if you had one,, you'd have to outfit it with those unique wheels you have with the pentastar styled spokes. I thought they were pretty cool,, and I'm a Chevy guy!
Danny Durham

Rory McNeil 06-28-2015 02:04 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 474906)
Blowers are not the in thing in any other form of drag racing right now.

Kevin

You mean like Top Fuel, Funny Car, TAFC, and BAD??

SSGN 06-28-2015 09:02 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 474939)
You mean like Top Fuel, Funny Car, TAFC, and BAD??

Those are all old technology. I meant Drag week, Fastest street car,Pro Mod and some of the outlaw classes. Just my opinion but have Ford put a twin turbo on the SCJ Mustang(rumoured) and watch the blower cars start to complain.

Kevin

Myron Piatek 06-28-2015 09:14 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 474911)
Myron,, if you had one,, you'd have to outfit it with those unique wheels you have with the pentastar styled spokes. I thought they were pretty cool,, and I'm a Chevy guy!
Danny Durham


Thanks, I wouldn't have it any other way, especially since they were my idea. They are available to anyone. But too bad Holeshot doesn't have the wheel contract, even if the pentastar isn't an obvious Chrysler symbol anymore.

Stocker 2 06-28-2015 09:41 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 474864)
I hope that we're looking at the future of Pro Stock.

You are probably right on target as usual.

Dick Butler 06-28-2015 09:41 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Billy,Nees, You are correct. One wt break, heads up but I do not like the fiberglass parts comments. Just another comp car, Pro Stock or Top Sportsman car.
As for any Turbo or Supercharger in a Stock or SS class they only are for one thing.... To confuse the factoring methods even more. Carbs versus Injection is bad enough and very successful confusion of factors...

Yes to the idea of replacing Current Pro Stocks with factory appearing Factory Stock cars.

Alan Roehrich 06-28-2015 11:13 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
If you're going to try it, naturally aspirated, two valves per cylinder, cam in block, 440 cubic inch maximum, 400 cubic inch minimum, maximum of two 1000 CFM approved throttle bodies, flat top pistons, maximum 5 forward speeds, back half only, 16"x33" slick, fiberglass hood, with a 6" scoop, 3200# with driver, although 3000#, or even 2800# with driver would be better, if you can get there.

I don't think they'll be fast enough to please the crowds, I don't think NHRA will like it, and I think the whole thing will be out of control in two years or less.

Mark Yacavone 06-28-2015 02:35 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 474951)
I don't think they'll be fast enough to please the crowds, I don't think NHRA will like it, and I think the whole thing will be out of control in two years or less.

Right Alan, and The Big 3 engine options will all look strangely alike, and it will be boring, for that reason..Sort of like Nascar.
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Jeff Stout 06-29-2015 12:38 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Just curious on cost of 2016 drag pak

Ronnie Hamlin 06-29-2015 08:02 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
$99,426.00 for the 426 naturally aspirated, $109,354.00 for the supercharged version according to what was said at the press announcement.

Jim Wahl 06-29-2015 11:39 AM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Hamlin (Post 475032)
$99,426.00 for the 426 naturally aspirated, $109,354.00 for the supercharged version according to what was said at the press announcement.

The supercharged motor is 354 CI. Jim

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treessavoy 07-02-2015 04:39 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Hamlin (Post 475032)
$99,426.00 for the 426 naturally aspirated, $109,354.00 for the supercharged version according to what was said at the press announcement.


Will Dodge finance them for 5 years and what kind of warranty do you get?

JimR

Jeff Teuton 07-02-2015 04:53 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
You know, an innovative person can finance these if you are a little creative. I am a car dealer first and a banker second. I have helped a couple of people finance these things. The key is they are identifiable by serial # even they have no title. Banks do it daily, use a UCC filing to record your interest in anything identifiable. In many states boats don't have titles, but have serial numbers. Now if you got a beacon score that won't stand a look, your local banker might not help. There is no national across the board program, but your local guy with everything else ok should be able to do it. Kevin and I were in Detroit for the last three days. Impressive cars, fast, going through tests now, Kevin drove one of them. They will both be in Denver. More as it unfolds. Lot of details available, but not here.

H Hoover 07-02-2015 08:08 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
I think if you can't afford to buy it outright, you may be better off with something less. $100 K isn't that much money anymore.

Rat Raceway 07-02-2015 10:34 PM

Re: 2016 Drag Pak
 
Well if they can run good here in Denver they will run good anywhere.

Nothing like 10k DA at the Mile High Nats! :D

Wish I was not sidelined for the race.


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