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Jeff Teuton 08-02-2015 09:49 PM

Soup up trick.
 
1/2 cup nitro in the pan is worth about .04or 03. One cup blows the rods out the side. You know when you passed the line is when you can reach in at the end of the track and pull out a piston. Just a thought before Indy.

Larry Hill 08-03-2015 07:43 AM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
.03 to .04 pick up is only if you use the cheep stuff nitro, it has yellow die in it. The clear nitro (faster) is the way to go, its Indy, spend the extra $$$$. It's a bracket racer dream: " Go fast or go home".

Billy Nees 08-03-2015 07:52 AM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Jeff, keep trying! You haven't got it jetted right yet!

Ed Wright 08-03-2015 11:13 AM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Nitromethane in your oil??

Mark Yacavone 08-03-2015 12:02 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Try hooking up the PCV !

Ed Wright 08-03-2015 12:17 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 478303)
Try hooking up the PCV !

I do.

Mark Yacavone 08-03-2015 12:27 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 478308)
I do.

I'm sure . I was trying to help Jeff to keep the rods inside the motor.
Of course you'd have to look long and hard for the ports on those "factory" combos.

Signman 08-03-2015 02:29 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Why buy nitro just get used oil from the the pro teams!

James Perrone 08-03-2015 02:42 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 478280)
1/2 cup nitro in the pan is worth about .04or 03. One cup blows the rods out the side. You know when you passed the line is when you can reach in at the end of the track and pull out a piston. Just a thought before Indy.

fact. Not fiction. ☺️

rod butcher 08-03-2015 05:22 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
James is right. I was told several years ago, at Indy, that Buster shut off two SS/AA hemi cars on the starting line for a nitro smell in the early 1980's.

Ed Wright 08-03-2015 07:16 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
I would be afraid to try that. Besides, it is cheating. A guy doing that would not have actually won anything anyway. Just screwed some people.

Paul Merolla 08-04-2015 07:26 AM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Amazing how a couple of posts can suck the fun right out of a thread....Ed, this was supposed to be "tongue in cheek"! Notice the winking smiley face on Jeff's first post?

Tom Goldman 08-04-2015 12:32 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
A 1/4 Midget racer I used to weld chassis for told me they did it for years !
The tracks finally used a A/C leak detector to sniff the oil , it would pick up the nitro same as a freon leak !

DonatoEng 08-04-2015 12:33 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Mr Jeff,
Did you know that if you spin the old smog pump backwards it would draw in more clean air / fuel in ?

Mike Delahanty 08-04-2015 01:27 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
If you don't want to mess with the oil theres the "sterno" trick that was allegedly used by one of the Toyota Teams to qualify for the Daytona 500. A jelly like substance that was enriched with a power enhancing chemical was applied to the inside of the air cleaner element. The plot fell apart after the sudden increase in speed by the car led curious tech inspectors to the alleged jelly still present in the intake manifold.

kansas stocker 08-04-2015 01:34 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
I seem to remember that this trick worked best with Pennzoil.
Maybe that was nitrous instead of Nitro.
I'm old you know.
Pete

James Perrone 08-04-2015 01:53 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Cheating only if u get caught funny thing is I got pulled for piston and rod. And was only one of 3 cars to pass. Lol was runny3 quarts of royal purple was told when you cross finish Line shut it off. Glad it wasn't my motor it works

Jeff Stout 08-04-2015 02:35 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 478413)
A 1/4 Midget racer I used to weld chassis for told me they did it for years !
The tracks finally used a A/C leak detector to sniff the oil , it would pick up the nitro same as a freon leak !

This. When I was the VP Fuel rep in AZ I would be the filling station for the go cart nationals on dirt. The carts would have to come up with a dry fuel tank and unscrew oil cap. If tank was dry I could fill with spec fuel and the AC sniffer was put in oil hole. A couple of tanks were wet and some of the motors had something in oil that sniffer picked up. They were removed from line and sent back to correct. Funny when they came back everything was good to go.

Larry Hill 08-04-2015 02:53 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
James every red light has a price! Its never a free lunch.

treessavoy 08-04-2015 06:36 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
I like to soak my air cleaners in nitro so the fumes are pulled into the carbs as soon as I hit the throttle, air cleaners catch on fire every so often but it looks good going thru the lights with fire shooting out from under the hood.

JimR

James Perrone 08-04-2015 06:56 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 478426)
James every red light has a price! Its never a free lunch.

Absolutely big man. 1 st Indy will never forget it tear down was a badge of honor Larry you take no one for granted. Your still #1 till they qualify this year

Jeff Teuton 08-04-2015 07:44 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
We tried the sterno. Couldn't see anything. Monte Bogan was king of sterno. All this in Top Stock. The best oil I ever saw was VP has some for a short time. The good stuff, put it in early morn, take it out before retiring. The really good stuff, put on gloves, put it in right before going to staging, take it out right after the run. Don't spill it on yourself. Funny looking stuff. Perrone, if tear down is a badge of honor, then I got enough badges to equip a police department in Cleveland.

Ed Wright 08-04-2015 11:08 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Merolla (Post 478380)
Amazing how a couple of posts can suck the fun right out of a thread....Ed, this was supposed to be "tongue in cheek"! Notice the winking smiley face on Jeff's first post?

Sorry, guess I missed that. Without PCV, I couldn't see how it would do much anyway.

Signman 08-05-2015 09:47 AM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
ED
Back in the mid 90s when helping my friend on his alcohol dragster remember him saying then that in the past S/SS racers would come around looking for used oil from A-Fuel cars because of all the nitro that would be mixed in it.
Guess back then some used a PCV valve but considering ring technology and honing was not as good as today a little oil / nitro mix sucked by the rings could make some power.

Ed Wright 08-05-2015 03:16 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
I had a friend telling about guys putting stuff in the oil and hood scoops, to suck in the vapors. I though Jeff was talking about that. I should have noticed the little joke symbol. I didin't think Jeff would do that, but figured he also knew about some of that stuff.

Again, I appologize for killing the fun.

Jeff Teuton 08-05-2015 04:12 PM

Re: Soup up trick.
 
As I have these flashes, I like to share them with the underinformed. Ed, however is about my age and he forgets just like I do. Anyone remember when you weighed only once when you did tech on some old feed scales and then raced all day?


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