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Ken Miele 08-06-2015 08:16 PM

No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Ok, its not a new NHRA rule, but I got your attention. With this years Mineshaft rule, Indy will be the race everyone can just let it all hang out in Stk/SS. In Stock the Factory Showdown cars do not count in the Mineshaft rule, but even when you take out the 25 Showdown cars from last years top half qualifying at Indy, you are still looking at .950 under.

This is what many have wanted for such a long time, and was a issue with the FS cars not getting hp. Now we all can go as fast as we want in Stock and Super Stock.

I would like to here your opinion, good bad or don't care?




Jeff Niceswanger 08-06-2015 08:57 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Its good... Indy is one week later this year. I live in Ohio, and that one week has the potential to change the weather quite a bit.. It is right about the time the fall weather starts to set in over here, and we can get relatively good air. Not east coast air, but pretty good for around here. That morning round could make the 120 under come into play .... frequently ..

Ken Miele 08-06-2015 09:16 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
I did fail to mention that the 1.20 would still come into play, but for most combo's it would be tough to get the instant hit.

HR9121 08-06-2015 09:16 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Can't quite let all hang out because 1.20 under or more will still get you some horsepower unless you are one of the Factory Showdown cars. Well on second thought I doubt I could get to 1.20 under so I guess if I was going I could let all hang out!

ALMACK 08-06-2015 09:30 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Miele (Post 478612)
I did fail to mention that the 1.20 would still come into play, but for most combo's it would be tough to get the instant hit.

Every thing was looking good until I read that ^^

Why can't NHRA just simply turn off the AHFS @ Indy and make it fair for ALL Stockers ??

Jeff Teuton 08-06-2015 09:52 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
That would be just too much fun. Ken, youdaman. I mean NHRA can only say No. Nothing ventured, nothing gained or something like that.

Dick Butler 08-06-2015 10:44 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Sounds like fun for those who have the potential to show 1.20 under. Probably bad for those who are hoping some of the light factored cars get AFHS attention on a run at Indy so they get hp and average out the class better for next time there is a heads up run in eliminator or class.

Larry Hill 08-07-2015 07:52 AM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Mine shaft weather for Indy first round of class: 90*, 85%, 29.01". Its going to be fast.

Ed Wright 08-07-2015 09:39 AM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 478630)
Mine shaft weather for Indy first round of class: 90*, 85%, 29.01". Its going to be fast.

That's not bad weather for Div 4. LOL

Mike Keener 08-07-2015 04:05 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Great idea Ken!

Lyn Smith 08-07-2015 04:47 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Looks like about 40 percent of Indy entries will be FS cars. So that leaves 48 spots for the regular class cars.Probably will take about .90 under to get in the field.Hey Nhra how about a all run field.

Dyno 08-07-2015 06:25 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
I agree, ALL RUN. If they will take your $360. entry fee, then run everyone that enters. I want to support the Hemi Shootout, but also run the regular eliminator. When the fastest Hemi car last year was 81st, I have no chance.

Todd Hoven 08-07-2015 08:02 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
I've heard rumors of an all run field from a few racers in the last couple of weeks. Has anybody else heard anything about this? It would be an interesting new twist.
How about all class winners get a first round bye. Maybe a little incentive to bring a fast car to the go with an all run field

Sean Cour 08-07-2015 08:19 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
While they're at it.....maybe a first round loser buyback! Another way to secure some more fundage!

James Perrone 08-07-2015 08:20 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 478672)
While they're at it.....maybe a first round loser buyback! Another way to secure some more fundage!

Lol

Todd Hoven 08-07-2015 08:31 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 478672)
While they're at it.....maybe a first round loser buyback! Another way to secure some more fundage!

I'd rather it stay the way it is myself. 128 q and let it rip, and put the FS cars in their own class

Angelo DiTocco 08-07-2015 08:33 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Cour (Post 478672)
While they're at it.....maybe a first round loser buyback! Another way to secure some more fundage!

Fundage - LOL - never heard it put quite that way!

Stephen & Horace Johnson 08-07-2015 09:59 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno (Post 478660)
I agree, ALL RUN. If they will take your $360. entry fee, then run everyone that enters. I want to support the Hemi Shootout, but also run the regular eliminator. When the fastest Hemi car last year was 81st, I have no chance.

It would be nice but what I heard...its 128 only....

SStockDart 08-07-2015 10:56 PM

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I would be in favor of first round loser, with best package, a trip to second round. Ok..let me have it.

SStockDart 08-07-2015 11:05 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
13 funny cars in Seattle. That means they all qualify. What is the payout for qualifying....$20,000 or so....I'm just saying..

ALMACK 08-08-2015 01:49 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 478686)
13 funny cars in Seattle. That means they all qualify. What is the payout for qualifying....$20,000 or so....I'm just saying..

Wow.
I did not know it paid that much to qualify.

Kind of reminds me of the "Start and Park" drivers on the Nascar circuit.

They qualify, start the race and make one lap, then load the car into the transporter and head home.
Some of those drivers make a decent living finishing # 42 or # 43 at those races.

Mickey Whaley 08-08-2015 03:40 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
How about a soup sandwich?

Joe Martens 08-08-2015 04:22 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by todd hoven (Post 478674)
i'd rather it stay the way it is myself. 128 q and let it rip, and put the fs cars in their own class

x 2!

Randall Klein 08-08-2015 05:47 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
For me, the effort to qualify and the tension watching the field narrow is part of the fun

MR DERBY CITY 08-08-2015 07:36 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
A 128 car qualified field is about the only part of a Performance Class that we have left. It's not T ball , everyone does not get a Participant Trophy. After all, the U S Nats is the Super Bowl of Stk/ Ss class racing. In the Stone Age, only Class Winners were allowed in the eliminator . M.J.

Dick Butler 08-08-2015 09:45 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 478732)
A 128 car qualified field is about the only part of a Performance Class that we have left. It's not T ball , everyone does not get a Participant Trophy. After all, the U S Nats is the Super Bowl of Stk/ Ss class racing. In the Stone Age, only Class Winners were allowed in the eliminator . M.J.

No making it all,qualified removes the reward of winning class in a way. No ones fault for bye except NHRA having too many classes,dividing up the racers. I Agree with no liking bye runs or combos but fix the,reason don't just create another dial
in to run. Too many fast cars one just Win class.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 08-08-2015 09:54 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 478738)
No making it all,qualified removes the reward of winning class in a way. No ones fault for bye except NHRA having too many classes,dividing up the racers. I Agree with no liking bye runs or combos but fix the,reason don't just create another dial
in to run. Too many fast cars one just Win class.

If you win your should get in anyways......

Jim Isherwood 08-09-2015 03:22 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno (Post 478660)
I agree, ALL RUN. If they will take your $360. entry fee, then run everyone that enters. I want to support the Hemi Shootout, but also run the regular eliminator. When the fastest Hemi car last year was 81st, I have no chance.

That's the way you AH guys wanted it. you told NHRA that you're special,normal super stock rules should not apply to us, we don't want to be penalized with weight cause we want to go fast, we want to cut our valve cover bolt holes in half if we want to. just hit our index so we can keep going faster.You got what you wanted now deal with it.

Terry Cain 08-09-2015 06:33 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 478732)
A 128 car qualified field is about the only part of a Performance Class that we have left. It's not T ball , everyone does not get a Participant Trophy. After all, the U S Nats is the Super Bowl of Stk/ Ss class racing. In the Stone Age, only Class Winners were allowed in the eliminator . M.J.

Stone age ? Damn that makes me feel old. LOL

Dyno 08-10-2015 05:05 PM

Re: No Horsepower For Indy !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Isherwood (Post 478788)
That's the way you AH guys wanted it. you told NHRA that you're special,normal super stock rules should not apply to us, we don't want to be penalized with weight cause we want to go fast, we want to cut our valve cover bolt holes in half if we want to. just hit our index so we can keep going faster.You got what you wanted now deal with it.

Jim,Jim, Jim, easy boy. Do not group ALL SS/AH racers together like that. I race a hemi car because I always wanted one, (most likely like you) not because I think I am special or deserve different rules. I like to support the class at Indy, but I would rather race in the normal eliminations. Peace!


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