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Woodfin 08-11-2015 07:28 PM

carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
is this Quick Fuel air bell a legal SS part?

http://www.quickfueltechnology.com/s...150-style.html

SSDiv6 08-11-2015 08:02 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
It's not legal.
The air cleaner rule you have to follow is the same as for Super Stock class.

AIR CLEANERS
Optional. If used, air cleaner must be OEM automotive or retain
OEM configuration. Air-cleaner base may be cut or trimmed, but
welding, bolting, riveting, epoxying, or any other form of fabrication
prohibited. Ram tubes, velocity stacks, or other than stock-type
base plates or ducting prohibited. Cooling holes prohibited in
radiator side panels, etc. Factory air cleaners and/or scoops that fit
through hood must be affixed to carburetor as per OEM only.

Geerhead55 08-11-2015 09:28 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
X2,,, that's basically a velocity stack you're looking at, Larry.
Danny Durham

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 08-11-2015 10:40 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Larry…Classic Industries Part number C695, should keep you out of trouble. MB.

Dragsinger 08-12-2015 04:09 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Maurice,

Thanks, I need a non trouble situation :)

Danny Ashley 08-12-2015 08:32 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Larry,
Not sure exactly what you are wanting but if you need an air cleaner base, then check out Speedway Motors' #91011062-2. At only $14.99 you can't go wrong. This is what I used to recommend to my carb customers when they asked about air cleaner bases. They also offer it with a top if you want to run a filter, #91011000. It comes with your choice if spacer 1/2, 1, or 2 inch and a stud. Hope this helps. Regards, Danny

HandOverFist 08-12-2015 09:12 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Legal? http://www.r2cperformance.com/produc...?ProductId=264
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/R2C-Pe...-14,70686.html

Alan Nyhus 08-12-2015 09:54 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
I think tech. would consider that base the same as they do a K&N Stub Stack. -Al

HandOverFist 08-12-2015 09:59 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 479055)
I think tech. would consider that base the same as they do a K&N Stub Stack. -Al


How about this version? These folks are supposedly working on Quadrajet parts as well.

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...pslylzxdma.jpg

Dragsinger 08-12-2015 11:03 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Danny Ashley,

Thanks, I still remember the very good Q-jet you did for me about 8 - 9 years ago. That carb worked great on our 350/255 F/SA Nova.

And about the air pan base, simply looking at something to potentially smooth out air flow. I will check your suggested links.

The combination I have now is SS 327/300/293 with Quick Fuel SS585 replacement carb.

Dragsinger 08-12-2015 11:37 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Danny, as it works out I have one of the bases like in your Speedway link. I will take it with me to the next race and ask D 4 tech if it is OK to run.

terry1 08-12-2015 06:05 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Is there a spec on what is an acceptable carb base?I can't find anything
in the "rules".
Terry K

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 08-12-2015 08:41 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
There is a rule that applies to what you can use.

HandOverFist 08-13-2015 01:01 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
It's kind of vague tho...

AIR CLEANERS
Optional. If used, air cleaner must be OEM automotive or retain
OEM configuration. Air-cleaner base may be cut or trimmed, but
welding, bolting, riveting, epoxying, or any other form of
fabrication is prohibited. Ram tubes, velocity stacks, or non-stocktype
base plates or ducting prohibited. Cooling holes prohibited in
radiator side panels, etc. Factory air cleaners and/or scoops that
fit through hood must be affixed to carburetor as per OEM only.

terry1 08-13-2015 07:10 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Rich, I saw the same thing in the "book". I guess my question would be:
when does a carb base become a velocity stack?
Terry K

Danny Ashley 08-13-2015 07:55 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Terry:
According to one of my carb customers who asked an NHRA tech man about air cleaner bases, the base cannot be higher than the top of choke housing. He said they should be able to lay a straight edge across the base and it should touch the carb. This will keep racers from adding spacers under the base therefore creating a type of velocity stack.

Dwight Southerland 08-13-2015 08:23 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Ashley (Post 479112)
Terry:
According to one of my carb customers who asked an NHRA tech man about air cleaner bases, the base cannot be higher than the top of choke housing. He said they should be able to lay a straight edge across the base and it should touch the carb. This will keep racers from adding spacers under the base therefore creating a type of velocity stack.

Interesting. I see that for Holley carbs, but if the same rule were applied to 4GCs, AFBs and many other carbs, even the factory bases would not pass.

FED 387 08-13-2015 10:42 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
I had some aluminum cast adapters made up for sale. They are only about 1/2-3/4 inch in thickness that will allow a 4GC carb which has a 4 7/32 in diameter opening to use a pan with a 5 1/8 inch diameter opening which is what most Holley/Quadra Jet carbs are. I have both a shallow dropped base air pan and the adapter which will fit many applications where hood clearance needs to be considered--- contact me for more pics/info---FED387

terry1 08-13-2015 03:06 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Danny, does the Speedway Motors carb base pass the "stright edge" test?
Terry K

Danny Ashley 08-13-2015 07:04 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Terry:
Yes it does. I just check it with a Chevy and a Pontiac Q-Jet and the straight edge is dead even with the top of the choke housing. Should be good to go.

terry1 08-13-2015 07:58 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Thanks Danny. Speedway Motors site say it "fits Holley carbs".
Terry K

Danny Ashley 08-13-2015 10:02 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Terry:
Yes it does but Holley and Quadrajets both use a 5 1/8 air cleaner. The only thing to watch when using one on a Q-Jet, sometimes it requires a slight modification because the accelerator pump lever may hit. Also when used on a Pontiac carb, a hole needs to be drilled for the front vent tube. Easy fix for both.

terry1 08-14-2015 08:12 AM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Thanks Danny for the great info,as always.
By the way, my carb is working as good now as the day I got it back from you.
Terry Knapper

Woodfin 08-19-2015 10:45 PM

Re: carb air entry pan for the Super 10
 
Thanks goes out to Dick Ullrich [aks FED387] for a factory air filter base that works with the side hung float bowl.

Dick sent a full service package with attaching hardware and instructions. I like it when racers help racers.

See photos under the last page of Super 10 build thread


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