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I know of three racers who bought Sunoco fuel from the fuel truck at Indy and the fuel would not pass fuel check. To make matters worse Sunoco would not replace the gas or refund their money. As someone who usually runs Sunoco, this seems like a not very wise move for Sunoco, because it damages their reputation at a time when everyone knows they are having trouble with the comp and pro stock fuel. I think a lot of it comes from using an independent distributor instead of a factory Sunoco truck. I. Hear VP will be back next year as an option.

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How about those fuel DQs in round 1 of Stock class? Any identity on that fuel?

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This is areal shame! NHRA let this vendor in it is up toNHRA OFFICAL TO FIX THIS! SHAME SHAME NHRA

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Regardless of the brand, if it is sold at the track by an approved vendor, it should pass or it should be accepted. Check it on the truck before anyone buys it to make sure it passes.

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Mike, I know for a fact that one of the dq's was first round of class, and it cost a racer the win.

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I hate to have to haul fuel in the trailer, but when they won't allow VP to sell fuel at the track, I have no choice. I wasted time and money testing with that crap. I will not use it.

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There must be more to this.
NHRA tests fuel for sale at every national event and records data for review. That is what I was told when a fuel I was using for a couple of seasons was removed last winter because it was inconsistent from event to event.

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Maybe I'm biased because we have to run that liquid dog **** in the Comp cars but Sunoco is junk. I don't care if it's cheaper, you get what you pay for. We always make more power on the dyno with VP over the Sunoco and l have never had an issue at fuel check with it. You will never see anything but VP in my Stocker.

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Me. Too. VP only

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Not a difficult decision

Ron

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I was DQd first round in class with fresh Sunoco fuel. 3rd. time this season failed fuel check with Sunoco..Then had to leave the race because of a death in the family so all in all not a good US nat. for me.

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Sorry to hear about the family death George.

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ur not the only 1 fella , I talked 2 randy wilkes an he was HOTTTT also w SUNOCO FUEL !!!!!

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Couple years ago at Indy, I bought 5 gal of C-11. Poured it in my empty stocker and didn't pass fuel check. Wasn't excited about it because I thought I needed that morning hit to get in. VP was nothing but apologetic and immediately took what I had left in the jug, poured it in one of their empties and filled mine up to the rim with fresh fuel that passed. That's how its supposed to be done.

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You guys are a killing me, Sunoco has been INCONSISTENT all year long. It's not a secret. The money you guys spend on your engine programs and you run Sunoco ?? I would not put that stuff in my Weedwhacker. M.J.

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I hope the money Sunoco paid NHRA to be the "official fuel" was a one year at a time deal. Maybe won't be the case next year.

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As one who was involved in this mess, I will speak the facts as I know them. George Yago and Randy Wilkes were DQ'ed for fuel, having bought my fuel from Sunoco within an hour of George's, I thought that I should have my fuel checked before eliminations. I had 2 previous fuel checks in qualifying with fuel that was purchased at the Class Nats 2 weeks previous and passed both times, now I purchased fresh fuel at this race and it FAILED.😡 The NHRA guy, Ken, was sympathic but could do nothing. I tried speaking with Russ Bradford from Sunoco, as he is the guy I was told was in charge, he was absolutely no help as he kept saying that there was no problem with their fuel!👿 I am lucky as I am only out $60.00 for 5 gal of fuel, but George and Randy are out a lot more. I have supported Sunoco as they are the official sponsor of NHRA, but now must reconsider. Their customer service leaves something to be desired.

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How and why would NHRA pull the fuel 90% of drag racers use??? and to boot with no problems,and at divisional,s.Who,s gettin greased here????????????????????????

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Money.

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VP has got to be loving this. Could not ask for better advertising than this mess.

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If NHRA will not look into this where is the division director and tech director? Why aren't racers being taken care of?

My condolences Mr. Yago. After your performance at the Class Nationals was looking forward to seeing you tear them up!

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If you remember, the problem surfaced not too far in the past and cost a Tech official with years of experience his job. At that time,Sunoco responded that they did not like the way their fuel was tested. That same dismissed official made two posts on here that really did not:rolleyes: garner much support from the racers. Nobody from SUNOCO stood up and apoligized
for the fuel problem. So, 1 NHRA tech official lost his job as a scapegoat and the fuel problem continues. You would think that SUNOCO would have had their act together for the the biggest race of the year. Guess it really wasn't that important after all.

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Mr. Fine, they have had all season to get their act together...I am not sure it is going to happen this year. Follow the $$$$$. M.J.

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Andrew and I have run Sunoco Blue or 112 for the last three years with no problem. It's always checked right in the middle and the performance was fine. For Indy we bought 15 gallons of VP C-11 because a couple of years ago on the dyno C-11 was a couple of horsepower better than Blue. We buy Sunoco from a dealer that only sells it in barrels that he gets from Wick Oil in St.Louis. I truly think the problem is with the Sunoco distributor that was at Indy. I think they were getting rid of old fuel that had been in the bottom of someone's tank for a while. The worst thing is that no one at Sunoco would acknowledge the problem or do anything about it. I keep hearing that VP and Sunoco both will be at NHRA races next year.

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Hope your hearing right. Much safer than hauling jugs of fuel in our trailers.

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Don't most folks haul it in their trailers?

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Ed, I've been hauling fuel in my trailer for 25 years. Not a drum but 10 or 15 gallons for sure. Most folks do.

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Is it reasonably doable once purchased, Sunoco or other, to go and have it tested at NHRA fuel check before using it ?
Should there still be a DQ fuel problem it may be due to residual gas in the fuel delivery system filter, tank, foam etc...
MB.

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I've seen two race car trailers this past year that were in traffic accidents. Both pretty much melted from fuel inside burning. I would just as soon not transport my fuel.

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It hasn't been clearly stated but the issue is with SR-18 specifically?

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Plastic jugs should not cut it for transport, someone should make a fire rated container for that purpose. On the fuel Sunoco fix for there fuel was to add lead, look at there spec sheet there fuel weights 1/2 more per gal than vp but with that being said it slows the burn rate down to the point the it does not all burn up leaving residue. This is not the way to make power. Sunoco stance on there fuel is that they want the rules to change for them, sounds like other things going on in our country. Tom

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So how many fuels were remove from the approved fuel list in the off season? I know the fuel I used for the last 2 years was removed, C9 unleaded. I didn't know of this until the first Div race of the year at the first Q run that it was no longer on the list, Had to switch fuels bummed some off buddy's to get me through the race. The next problem was getting approve fuel there are only 2 unleaded fuels on the list VP and Sunnoco but both are not stock by dist so the price is jacked up. Also at the national event in Seattle went to the Sunnoco fuel truck to get fuel for the race and the truck didn't even have any they should be required to carry all the fuel that is on the approved list. Have got a barrel recently it better still be on the list next year. I still have fuel from last year some how I have to burn up.

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Same thing happened to me with C-9. Spent a few seasons developing a consistent tuneup but out the window that went. Was allowed to finish the race using C-9 but could not have it in the car if in a heads up.

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i like the weed waker line we've been using Rockett Brand 118 for years
never a issue all brands were tested years ago and R/B test'd best overall
its clean,not hard on parts,and that means more perf, and there's a guy
in ocala his name is Garlits he sez the same thing, he's probably worked
with more fuel than anyone. just my 2cent's
CJ #5 3 time NHRA
Record Holder

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I use Rockett Brand 118 racing fuel too and it's hands down the best fuel out their. You never have to worry if your going to pass a fuel check.

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I'm a Rocketman. It passes.

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I also found out VP C-9 was removed from the approved list at the Epping points meet - was legal last year but when I fuel checked it wasn't in the book? I checked with National tech the next week and found out that C-9 had been dropped because (Nobody was using it?) apparently several others had been using it last year. I don't find any Sunoco unleaded listed that I can use so I am back to VP C-10 I'm guessing that the Official Fuel supplier doesn't care if a competitor's fuel is dropped!
1051 STK

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try rockett brand go to there web site

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I brought Sunoco fuel and stored it in plastic containers that I purchased before the Gator Nats from a local gas station that has the fuel in the ground. The fuel passed fuel check twice at Indy. I have never had a problem with passing with the purple fuel as of yet. When I was at the PRI show back a few years ago, I asked the Sunoco rep. what was the shelf life. He said that it's good for 2 years.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

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I don't want to change this post but I always wondered what
does VP stand for.