Annoyance at the Keystones
 

I didn’t mind sitting in my van in a hayfield in the rain for two days; no one can control the weather. And I didn’t mind that the NHRA chose to lead off on Saturday with the Pro’s; they are the primary reason that the spectators are there. I didn’t even mind waiting until Monday to complete the race. But what really annoys me is paying someone a dollar to hand me a paper towel each time that I go to the bathroom. The first time that I ever saw this was at Englishtown, but it seems to have spread, like the plague, to Atco, Maple Grove, and Cecil County, I believe.

Now, I’ve been to upscale motels where the maitre D hands you a towel, but they were never looking for a tip. And I know that half of the racers today have motor homes and can escape this nuisance. But if NHRA’s true customers are the spectators, then why allow them to be subject to this fleecing? Wouldn’t it be better for the tracks to have their own personnel to take care of the bathrooms, and pay them to do so? If 15,000 people really show up for one of these races, and each pays just a quarter, there’s almost an additional $4000 being coerced from your customers.
Maybe I’m just too cheap, but for spending 5 days at Maple Grove, this is what annoyed me the most. And it annoys me every time I see it at other tracks, too.

Greg

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Greg, I don't tip them anything; at Maple Grove, E-town, or anywhere else. Just because there is a container for tips, doesn't make it mandatory to put something in it.

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This is next!!!

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I think it's more of a "Northeast" thing rather than NHRA. They do that at the bigger events at Budds Creek, MD as well, an IHRA track.

We are already paying good money to be there to race. But it seems like EVERYBODY is trying to find little "add-ons" to charge, like phone companies, airlines and more. There was a Choice Hotel near Dinwiddie that had a hidden fee for "toiletries" - soap, shampoo, etc. Stuff that's expected to be part of the advertised rates. When I wrote the company, I got a form letter back saying that some hotels are privately owned, they can't control what the charge, blah, blah, blah!

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I would be happy to pay $1 to go in a clean $.hiter. but that's just me.

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Is it really too much to ask to expect a clean "$.hiter" to use when you pay anywhere from $250 - $350 to enter a race without having to pay extra? No wonder they can't get any spectators! Jim

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Jim,

You hit the nail right on the head. Most tracks facilities are dirty and gross. There is no excuse for the restroom facilities to be run down and dirty. It sure doesn't help to get spectators in the stands.

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That's been going on for a long time and yes it's annoying.

It's a race track, not the Four Seasons.

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One more thing. The bathrooms are disgusting at most tracks in D1. Most of the time you have to deal with port a potties that even worse. It's bad enough that money spent for a points meet doesn't include clean bathrooms. To have disgusting bathrooms at a national event is over the top.

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I will usually drop in a tip once a day, not every time I go during the course of the day. I don't mind doing this if they are keeping them clean and tidy. In reality, if it weren't for the fact that there are some real swine among us that don't know how to use a bathroom without making a mess, those attendants probably wouldn't be necessary.

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They must do very well by these tips. the "toilet gang" was parked near us they drove in a hummer then changed into their red t-shirt uniforms.
Anyway, I also don't think you should have to pay to use a toilet. and I do find it quite like pan-handling....

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The toilets at Maple Grove look better than the over priced garbage they call food.

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And who do you think makes a ****house of the ****houses at these tracks??????
Whenever I used them at the races I attended they were almost always clean. Save your complaints for real issues like run schedules,entry fees,bad track prep,etc. etc. etc.

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Ever notice that dirty restrooms have cheap thin toilet paper.

I would pay $1.00 to get rid of the rotten egg smelling water at Gainesville.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA oooh oooh that smell, can't you smell that smell

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Very well put

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Greg get you a mh and they charge you to park overnite.

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Day 1, Year 2016: 3 guys to clean the bathroom, tip jar present, no paper towels.

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What the h3ll, if the place is kept clean, I don't mind it so much. I just don't give a handful of change every trip.

If my memory is correct, Maple Grave has never been able to build proper facilities because of environmental restrictions. Same reason it took many years to get a return road down the pit side of the track.

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Come on.... it shouldn't require an Act of Congress replace a worn out antiquated ****ter.

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Last year they parked near me a bunch of them got out of hummer so they are doing fine money wise. just say thanks and move on

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After working in construction for over 25 years, drag strip porta potties don`t even compare to the job site units.

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Anytime a public restroom at a privatly owned business is un healthy be it a drag strip or ball park the county health dept should be notified

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As if there isn't enough govt. intrusion on our lives.

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There must be people older than me who recall tracks not having flush toilets at all.
I still shudder to recall the $#ithouses at Seattle Int'l Raceway in the 80's. The new ones are like a fancy hotel but those old ones seem to have been washed down by a guy with bad aim and explosive diarrhea every morning.

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My first drag strip experience featured concrete toilets and recycled rain gutters cleverly disguised as urinals. Being from Kentucky it sure didn't bother me. I will leave it up to North Carolina to sort out all the bathroom issues....

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What's the towel for??

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Blow your nose, shine your shoes, clean race car windows, bring to sanitary facility for the next go round.

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In this day and age of RV's that cost hundreds of thousands pulling trailers that are aluminum stackers and race cars that cost more than six figures it seems to be a small thing to put some change in their plate to do a job most of you wouldn't want to .

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Seems like a lot of us don't remember what a big deal it was at Englishtown when they put in the modern facilities including showers .
They did have Porters too but the restrooms were spotless .
I do remember us fondly calling them the Supinski Super Sh@@@ers in appreciation of the racer who did the plumbing !

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Who gives a crap. For all these complaints you all should forward them to Jack ****t.

Ron Ortiz

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Tom and Jack you both win, just like at Indy it's nice if you have to use the facilities and they are clean. A small token of our appreciation for a job well done isn't too much to ask.

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A clean bathroom comes with your entry at places like Las Vegas and Bristol.

They sit in front of perfectly fine towel dispenser and hand you a towel, coercing you into tipping them. Again, it is an annoyance.

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Quick question do they rope off the crappers on Thursday when the pro are not running or do they wait until Friday when they start asking for tips

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Look up a company on the internet called Brief Relief. Little bags with chemicals to do #1 and larger ones for #1 AND #2. They also have a 5 gallon pail with a pottie seat that fits on top. And best of all it's biodegradable for the ecologically minded. Just throw them in the trash can. Oh, they even provide terlet paper and hand wipes.

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All about ownership. These tracks...Ownership....Bruton Smith and group does it right.

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Clean bathroom Facilites are a must.
One of the major reasons my wife and other females do not like going to a track.
More so if there are smaller kids.
Too many are filthy and poorly maintained.

It hurts the image of our sport.
Especially if you want to broaden the sport.

Do not mind the novelty of paying a tip.
MIR has the nicest maintain restrooms..

Wish they had showers as I would camp at the track.

D

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