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Bob Gullett 12-18-2015 02:18 PM

Horsepowers
 
Not on NHRA site yet but the classification guides are being updated.

Ed Carpenter 12-18-2015 03:11 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Chevy boys running 66 Chevy II auto will be happy. 327/275 goes from 307 to 300.

Tom Meyer 12-18-2015 05:41 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Well they lowered the SS 283 auto to 233, making them a natural K car. They straighten out the 55 265 auto and stick with a 8 hp difference. Looks like a few of the new dodge and fords got some power, they will have that out next week. Tom

Jared Jordan 12-18-2015 09:01 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Interesting...

'72 low compression 340 'Cuda gets bumped up to 303 from 299.

'70 Cuda/Challenger 440-4 bbl gets a reduction to 337 hp.

'69 383 Roadrunner got a couple off. Down to 296.

No love for my little 360 Volare. *grumble grumble grumble*

fredjohnston 12-18-2015 09:12 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
[QUOTE=Jared Jordan;490695]Interesting...


'70 Cuda/Challenger 440-4 bbl gets a reduction to 337 hp.

How many times in a row has this combo received a reduction?

Bob Bender 12-18-2015 10:54 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
I got 4 HP back on my 255 combo. Great !!

ALMACK 12-18-2015 11:23 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
'85 Super Stock 5.0 4 bbl Mustang up 2 hp...208 to 210

ALMACK 12-18-2015 11:28 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
2014 Cobra Jet Super Stock Automatic - 525 h.p... now is factored at 544.

Not sure what it was before.

ALMACK 12-18-2015 11:33 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
2012 Cobra Jet :

* SS/GT --302/Auto 325 hp is now 313 hp

* Stock Elim. 330 cu.in. @ 440 hp is now 542 hp
* Stock Elim. 330 cu in. @ 510 hp is now 624 hp

Larry Hill 12-18-2015 11:33 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
How did all this happen?

ALMACK 12-18-2015 11:41 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
2010 Cobra Jet

* SS/GT 281 cu.in. /manual @ 235 hp is now 232 hp

* Super Stock 330 cu. in./ auto @ 435 hp is now 477 hp

* Stock Elim. 281 cu.in. /manual @ 235 hp is now 275 hp

* Stock Elim. 352 cu. in./ auto @ 285 hp is now 338 hp

ALMACK 12-18-2015 11:47 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
2008 Cobra Jet:

Super Stock 330 cu.in. auto @ 425 is now 505 hp

ALMACK 12-18-2015 11:59 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
1973 Ford 302 --Stock Elim. @ 138 hp is now 143 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:07 AM

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1972 Ford :

* SS/GT Rear wheel drive conversion: 351 cu in with OEM heads @ 266 hp is now 289 hp

* Stock Elim. 351 Cleveland @ 248 hp is 303 hp

* Super Stock -Torino 351C with Edelbrock heads@ 248 hp is now 303 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:16 AM

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1971 Ford:

* SS/GT 351C RWD with OEM heads @ 280 hp is now 289 hp

* SS/GT 351C RWD with OEM heads @ 285 hp is now 329 hp

* Stock Elim 429 @ 370 hp both ram air and non ram air is now @ 350 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:20 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
1970 Ford:

Stock: 428 /manual- non ram air with Ford F5WE-A, Edelbrock 60058 heads...@ 335 hp is now 371 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:25 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
1969 Ford:

Stock Elim: 428 /manual non ram air with Ford F5WE-A, Edelbrock 60058 heads :

@ 335 hp is now 371 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:35 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
1968 Ford:

* SS/GT 427 with Edelbrock 61857 heads @ 390 hp is now 395 hp

* Super Stock 427 with Edelbrock 61857 heads @ 390 hp is now 395 hp

* Stock Elim- Mustang 428 /manual with Ford F5WE-A, Edelbrock 60058 heads @ 335 hp is now 371 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:38 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
1967 Ford:

Stock Elim : 289 cu. in. @ 225 hp is now 202 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:41 AM

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1965 Ford:

* SS/GT 427 with Edelbrock #60057,61857 heads @ 425 hp is now 430 hp

* Super Stock 427 with Edelbrock #60057,61857 heads @ 425 hp is now 430 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:49 AM

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1964 Ford:

* Super Stock: 427 Low Riser with Edelbrock #60057, 61857 heads @ 410 hp is now 420 hp

* Super Stock: 427 Low Riser with Edelbrock #60057, 61857 heads @ 425 hp is now 435 hp

* Super Stock: 427 Low Riser Mercury with Edelbrock #60057, 61857 heads @ 410 hp is now 415 hp

* Super Stock: 427 High Riser with Dove C4AE-F aluminum head, Edelbrock 61857 heads @ 410 hp is now 435 hp

ALMACK 12-19-2015 12:59 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
1960, '61, ''62 and '63 Ford:

All FE engines:

A bunch of changes with aftermarket heads

Jeff Teuton 12-19-2015 10:24 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Is that stuff posted anywhere, or do you just dig it out of the class guide?

ALMACK 12-19-2015 10:41 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 490754)
Is that stuff posted anywhere, or do you just dig it out of the class guide?

I just looked in the classification guides.

7423 12-19-2015 10:45 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 490755)
I just looked in the classification guides.

94-95 302 changes??

Brett C 12-19-2015 11:27 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 490754)
Is that stuff posted anywhere, or do you just dig it out of the class guide?

Don't worry Mr. Jeff, you guys got lots of Christmas presents in that department!

V M Kauffman 12-19-2015 12:03 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
The Chevy guys told NHRA what the Horsepower Ratings should be. They are correcting the errors NHRA made while driving the Ford Courtsey Cars around Glendora.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 490731)
How did all this happen?


Jack Matyas 12-19-2015 12:50 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
I cannot believe my eyes - this is the first year in like forever that something I own or race didn't get some extra horsepower .Maybe i'm finally living right .........Merry Christmas to me ! ! !

Lee Valentine 12-19-2015 03:16 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Me too Jack.

jaf2021 12-19-2015 05:03 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Am I wrong but what I see on the 66 Chevy 2 327/275 is that it goes from 304 to 300 on replacement heads and nothing changing for oem heads which is 307

ALMACK 12-19-2015 08:05 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 7423 (Post 490757)
94-95 302 changes??

Sorry Charlie, no changes.
I think you might have been one day late. Do you remember which day you sent it in ?

I was 2 days late for my request.
I sent it in the Thursday after the World Finals,but later found out that the Tuesday following the World Finals was the last day they would accept requests.

7423 12-19-2015 08:27 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 490824)
Sorry Charlie, no changes.
I think you might have been one day late. Do you remember which day you sent it in ?

I was 2 days late for my request.
I sent it in the Thursday after the World Finals,but later found out that the Tuesday following the World Finals was the last day they would accept requests.

Like I said Alan, I doubt you will have any problems with O or P. I ran 3 years on a 135,000 mile long block.

Dyno 12-19-2015 09:05 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
How did the 72-73 340 Cuda get another HP bump? I did not think anyone ran fast enough for it to receive this.

Jim Storms 12-19-2015 09:45 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Looks like I'm the guilty one!!!

Ed Carpenter 12-20-2015 04:28 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaf2021 (Post 490799)
Am I wrong but what I see on the 66 Chevy 2 327/275 is that it goes from 304 to 300 on replacement heads and nothing changing for oem heads which is 307

You are correct sorry about that.

JHeath 12-20-2015 09:58 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by V M Kauffman (Post 490766)
The Chevy guys told NHRA what the Horsepower Ratings should be. They are correcting the errors NHRA made while driving the Ford Courtsey Cars around Glendora.

While the NHRA guys are driving around in the Chevrolet courtesy cars.

jaf2021 12-20-2015 10:54 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
thanks Ed I was really hoping you was correct. I could have used that !!!

goinbroke2 12-20-2015 11:45 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHeath (Post 490934)
While the NHRA guys are driving around in the Chevrolet courtesy cars.

LOL! Ain't that the truth, first ones to %itch and moan when the rules are favored their way. Just look at nascrap if you want to see continuous chevy bias since what '74 or so??

Bill Harris 12-21-2015 11:02 AM

Re: Horsepowers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 490740)
1971 Ford:

* Stock Elim 429 @ 370 hp both ram air and non ram air is now @ 350 hp

Got me all excited and started thinking about tossing out the mothballs and blowing off the dust. But that HP is for the CJ with the hydraulic cam and Rochester carb, not the SCJ with the Holley and solid cam. I don't know of a single CJ that has been run in stock, but I guess that could change with this HP drop. I wonder who requested that? It isn't a big change other than finding an intake and getting a cam and lifters, but I wouldn't want to have to learn to tune a Q-jet and it is against my religion to run anything GM on a FoMoCo. Guess I'll stick with SCCA.

Bob Gullett 12-21-2015 12:06 PM

Re: Horsepowers
 
They're officially listed now.


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