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CamCam 01-06-2016 09:07 AM

Clutch
 
I'm building a 67 Camaro for stock. it will be a 396/375 what clutch should I buy and the pro's and con's, thanks in advance..

Mike Taylor 3601 01-06-2016 10:33 AM

Re: Clutch
 
Good starter and all around good setup is Mc Cleod soft loc or Ram about same setups adjustable pressure long style pressure plate sintered iron disc,heat shields on flywheel and pressure plate.
Rob Youngblood advanced clutches,Idaho,I think where he is does alot of stock and super stock clutches.
Mike Taylor 3601

Bob Gullett 01-06-2016 10:43 AM

Re: Clutch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CamCam (Post 492271)
I'm building a 67 Camaro for stock. it will be a 396/375 what clutch should I buy and the pro's and con's, thanks in advance..

You have a PM

t.tosto 01-06-2016 11:11 AM

Re: Clutch
 
Welcome to the world of B/B stick shift racing. Have any details on the car? There are some very knowledgeable and helpful people on this site, have had good luck with Mcleod Soft-Loc, easy to use. Good luck, Tony Tosto 3050 B/S

Mike Pearson 01-06-2016 12:43 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Brad Z has a McCleod soft lock clutch set up for sale in the classified thread. He is as good as it gets with a stick car. He might give you some tech help if you buy his stuff

Ed Carpenter 01-07-2016 10:08 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Call Brad he will tell you the difference between a McLeod and that Advanced stuff.

John Duzac 01-08-2016 04:23 PM

Re: Clutch
 
There was a not so long a go time that a Mc Leod clutch was a much cheaper piece. But now the Mc Leod clutch costs more than an Advanced Clutch. The big difference is you get Rob Youndblood to carefully advise you every step of the way. That's what separates Advanced Clutch from all other clutch companies.

Maverick 01-08-2016 04:40 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Do you have some numbers on how much they cost. I just got a soft loc clutch thru summit and I thought it was very reasonable. Under 2k.

Bill Belden 01-08-2016 05:02 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Advancedclutches.com, is the way to go

Maverick 01-08-2016 05:16 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Just looked at the advanced site, and the price looks the same at what I got thru summit. I will probably check them out soon.

Sean Marconette 01-08-2016 08:12 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Your not going to get a custom clutch from the online speed shops. Your going to get a street clutch with excessive base pressure. Having the right base, levers and lever ratios make a difference. With the loss of Tim Hyatt, it really hurts the stick racers as he was another good guy to get a clutch from and talk to.

How much does the off the shelf Summit clutch weigh in comparison to the Advanced? It will be like night and day. Every time I have called Rob, he has always answered the phone and has been brutally honest and very helpful. The Advanced clutch is predictable and I know exactly what the clutch is going to do when I make an adjustment, I did not have that with my other custom clutches.

For the OP,
If the guys running the same combination you are, and they suggest something or someone, take that advice to heart and act on it. If you are just getting going you don't have to have the wiz bang clutch to get the car on the track.

Sean

james schaechter 01-08-2016 08:26 PM

Re: Clutch
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick (Post 492447)
Just looked at the advanced site, and the price looks the same at what I got thru summit. I will probably check them out soon.

I think the advanced clutches were on sale in the off season, so it is worth calling him to confirm pricing.

There are several great clutches to choose from out there made by different manufacturers. They can range from 2000-6000 or more for some exotic stuff.

I can tell you I prefer the advanced stuff in our stockers. For me, I found it easier to slip the clutch on the line without having it drive through the clutch down track. They are lighter and I have found them to be quicker than the heavier stuff on our cars. Rob also specializes in stock and superstock stuff so he is very helpful. He will pick up the phone on a weekend also.

One thing that has made a difference for me on all of the clutches is to first send them to Kyle Carruthers. He is a smart guy. He builds clutch dynos. He will spin your clutch up on his dyno at different base pressure and counterweight for you. You get to see the cause and effect. You get a nice excel spreadsheet. I use it with the racepak data to see where the clutch slips. Once I know that, I use the dyno sheet to tune my clutch.

That helps because I can go to a bracket mode set up with less rpm and less clutch maintenance to a performance run without guessing. I know what to adjust without fear of losing the run.

Kyle is a good guy. He helps out PB Candies with their Cars. I would recommend talking to him no matter what you decide on. His number is 248-343-5339.

Maverick 01-08-2016 09:39 PM

Re: Clutch
 
The complete assembly that I ordered online through summit weighs 28 lbs. Hyatt recommended this clutch a few years ago. It is a Mcleod, and base on it is 200#. Hyatt has always been my clutch guy. And yes it is a off the shelf hcf disc. I don't run stock or super stock. I run S/G, so yes the guys running stock and super definetly know what they talking about. My clutch is at Hyatt's to get rebuilt, and when I heard the situation, I ordered the same deal I have been running. The stock and super stock guys are the ones i try to talk at the track. Good luck with you car

randy wilson 01-12-2016 11:18 AM

Re: Clutch
 
Steve Thompson has a near new Advanced dual clutch for sale. Pm me if interested.

John Duzac 01-19-2016 10:53 PM

Re: Clutch
 
I just had occasion to use the services of Kyle Carrothers. Kyle checked my clutch on his dyno and even provided a computer printout listing the pressure at different rpm. Fast turn around and an all around really a nice guy.


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