Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 493911)

Don't they realize the AVG spectator comes to watch the explosions and fire. They like carnage& expect it. These guys are going to "sanitize" it so much there wont be any excitement for the Avg non technical fan. It is just like taking the bumping and wrecks out of the cup or dirt races. Remember when they (Nascar) tightened up on it and made it boring and saw their mistake. Go ahead NHRA and make it dull for those left in the stands.

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 493927)

Do we not believe him Billy?.

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 493939)

Why of course I believe him Jim!

Could you hang on for just a minute? The President is at the door asking me my opinion on health care, I'm on the phone with somebody in Zimbabwe who claims to be my long-lost twin brother and if I'll send him air fare he'll be able to re-unite with me and my winged horse just got loose!

Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 493919)

Stuff happens when mechanical parts and assemblies are stressed to the limit. 10,000 horsepower from a 500 inch V-8 and they don't want any parts or oil to come out of them?

They market the speed and the power. Turn on a drag race show and often the first thing you see in the opening credits is an engine blow up in a ball of fire. I don't see how you can have it both ways and I'm not in favor of "fundamentally transforming" the sport for the purpose of making it good TV for the uninformed.

NASCAR has yellow flags, we have oil downs. It's a part of sport. Things have gotten much better since the days when it would take a bunch of guys with brooms an hour and a half to clean up a mess.

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 493942)

I'm a little up in the air on this one but are you being sarcastic? 😷

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 493944)

Why heck no, I'm not being sarcastic!

Do you not believe me, Cooter?

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 493942)

I'm a little up in the air on this one but are you being sarcastic? ��

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 493949)

Just FYI, I had a nice little talk with Mr. Clifford at the World Finals. I asked him if he knew that all of the rest rooms are locked after dark and a security guard(who doesn't have the key!) is stationed at them. I also asked him if he knew that all(every one and the Fairplex is a big place) of the public rest rooms that HAD shower stalls have had them removed. He did not know either of these things and he wanted to know what the problem was. I explained to him that I was sleeping in a LQ trailer with not a whole heck of a lot of LQ in it and the lack of showers and rest rooms was going to be a bit of a problem for me. After my explanation, he assured me that he would look into it and then suggested that I go down to the Hilton(he did). Now THAT'S sarcasm!

Probably why I haven't gotten my membership yet, check was cashed in October.

I'm sure that he has taken upon himself to rectify this situation for me as quickly as possibly though. Now THAT'S sarcasm too!

By the way, same problem at Vegas too.

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 494002)

Ya know, I should probably make myself perfectly clear here. I personally believe that what NHRA did with the 302 FFFords, whether it was a mistake or not, was good for Stock Eliminator and the Sport. It brought a significant number of cars(and in some cases Racers) that wouldn't have been built into the game.
I have another thread on here somewhere bringing up Mr. Clifford and what, if anything, he is going to do with the Sportsmen. A few months ago, Dwight Southerland, Mark Yacavone and I sent a letter to the NHRA about De-factoring an awful lot of the 70s and 80s cars that were just arbitrarily given unrealistic factors at the time that they were put in the guide. Kinda like the 302 FFFords. As far as I know, we've not received any kind of a response to it. But if a half-a-dozen 302s were built, wouldn't it be safe to say that some kind of equal response could be expected from other combos?
Seeing as Dwight wrote the letter, I'll leave it up to him as to whether he wants to post it but if Mr. Clifford is looking for a way to involve more young people in the sport, I think that this could be the best "entry level" way to go.
I also realize that this probably doesn't belong in this thread but my finger is too tired to start a new thread now.

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 494067)

Glanced through that article as I sit here trying to recover from a really bad case of the flu.


An oil pan pressure switch? I really have to wonder if some one didn't suggest that just to see if he'd repeat it. Seriously.

"A moratorium on the introduction of new parts"? Seriously? From the guy who just forced them to buy new wheelie bars, and a complete new induction system that includes a new front clip for the body.


Now, to be fair, the TV package is the best deal NHRA has ever had, by far, it's good thing, a really good thing.

The licensing deal is good as well.

As far as oil downs go, it doesn't matter who oils the track, so long as they do everything safely possible to minimize the impact, and they are not a multiple offender, there's no need to beat people up over it. It's racing, things break. Now, continual, multiple offenses, sure, hit them for it. Intentional failure to minimize the impact (we've all seen the guy who unloads a crankcase or transmission pan and obliviously rolls right down the middle of the lane for the length of the track), yep, nail them.

We all asked for change, we all wanted Compton gone. Let's see what 2016 brings.

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 493918)

it should not take as long to clean up the track as it does now. Back years ago when they used rice hull ash and a few guys on the tail gate of the pick up and a big jet blower they could clean a lane in about a third if the time it takes now. Everything seems to be in slow motion with these guys now. Sportsman dump some oil once in a while but no where near the amount of the nitro guys