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Kenny Wigington 02-03-2016 08:54 PM

SS/GT question
 
Is there a place, in GT categories, where you could run a newer , late model FI engine, in say, for instance, an 84 Cutlass ? Just wunderin'

FireSale 02-03-2016 09:13 PM

Re: SS/GT question
 
The factory hot rod motors - CJ, COPO, DragPak - are restricted to 08 or later bodies. Other than that I think "any engine same make as body, year optional" means just that. I've seen 55 Chevy's in GT with late model LS motors. At least on TV broadcasts of NHRA events.

Dale

Mike Pearson 02-04-2016 10:56 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Kenny
You can put any corporate engine you want in your car and run GT. You can run an earlier or later model engine as long as it is in the guide.

Dwight Southerland 02-04-2016 11:24 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 494426)
Kenny
You can put any corporate engine you want in your car and run GT. You can run an earlier or later model engine as long as it is in the guide.

No truck engines. And if you use one of the 2008 up factory hot rod engines, you will run FSGT classes.

Randall Klein 02-04-2016 01:11 PM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Question: with all these alphabet soup classes, how do they handle class runoffs with single cars nowadays?

ALMACK 02-04-2016 02:57 PM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland (Post 494428)
No truck engines. And if you use one of the 2008 up factory hot rod engines, you will run FSGT classes.


On the flip side....

Anyone ever hear of a SS/GT racer using a '08-'16 Factory Stock body (or clone of one) and using a 2007 and older engine ?

Kenny Wigington 02-05-2016 10:21 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Thanks All !

Stewart Way 02-08-2016 12:16 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
OK Kenny
I know that is not a random question. Spill the beans. What's the plan?

ss3011 02-08-2016 09:43 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
It might be hard to put one of those FS engines in an older car, without a big change to the intake manifold .

Jeff Teuton 02-08-2016 04:59 PM

Re: SS/GT question
 
New body (08 up) with matching motor FSS/something. New Body old motor FGT/something. New motor old body FGT/something New body/new motor/different years FGT/something. Smaller the motor, the more screwin you get because there is no stick/auto in the FSS and FGT arena and NHRA used the stick factor and in the lower FSS and FGT classes, the difference is as much as .25 and that's a lot. If you goin that way, use the new high horsepower stuff. Using an old motor in a new car probably won't work well. This applies to DP, Copo and CJ bodies/engines. Showroom stuff is SS and GT.

Kenny Wigington 02-08-2016 10:08 PM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Just an idea I've had rolling around in my narrow mind, for a couple months now, nothing in steel or aluminum , not yet anyway, Stewart.

Ed Carpenter 02-09-2016 01:42 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Klein (Post 494442)
Question: with all these alphabet soup classes, how do they handle class runoffs with single cars nowadays?

Randall all single class cars run in the combo i.e. SS/MA vs GT/BA

ALMACK 02-09-2016 09:20 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 494950)
New body (08 up) with matching motor FSS/something. New Body old motor FGT/something. New motor old body FGT/something New body/new motor/different years FGT/something. Smaller the motor, the more screwin you get because there is no stick/auto in the FSS and FGT arena and NHRA used the stick factor and in the lower FSS and FGT classes, the difference is as much as .25 and that's a lot. If you goin that way, use the new high horsepower stuff. Using an old motor in a new car probably won't work well. This applies to DP, Copo and CJ bodies/engines. Showroom stuff is SS and GT.

? ?
I would have thought a new body with an old carbed engine would put it in the regular SS/GT classes.
I was thinking the engine is what dictated which group it runs in.

BBF67 02-09-2016 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 495027)
? ?
I would have thought a new body with an old carbed engine would put it in the regular SS/GT classes.
I was thinking the engine is what dictated which group it runs in.

Any engine OR body that is used for GT classes and is a 2008 or newer COPO, Cobrajet, or Drag Pac must run Factory/GT. The reason I was told is because the engines are not sold as street legal. The bodies use a lighter shipping weight, have different hoods, and are not sold as street legal.

It is possible to run regular SS/GT with a 2008 or newer non COPO, Cobrajet, or Drag Pac body that started life as a regular (read as heavier) street legal car and is in the NHRA classguide.

At least that was the way it was explained to me by tech.

Jeff Teuton 02-09-2016 10:24 AM

Re: SS/GT question
 
BBF, you are correct. Unfortunately only Mopar has applied and got put into the books some of the newer models. It would be great if Chevy and Ford got new showroom in the book. I think NHRA has encouraged them to get them sent in.

ALMACK 02-09-2016 12:50 PM

Re: SS/GT question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBF67 (Post 495037)
Any engine OR body that is used for GT classes and is a 2008 or newer COPO, Cobrajet, or Drag Pac must run Factory/GT. The reason I was told is because the engines are not sold as street legal. The bodies use a lighter shipping weight, have different hoods, and are not sold as street legal.

It is possible to run regular SS/GT with a 2008 or newer non COPO, Cobrajet, or Drag Pac body that started life as a regular (read as heavier) street legal car and is in the NHRA classguide.

At least that was the way it was explained to me by tech.

Thanks for clarifying


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