Team orders?
 

Does it make a difference if it happens at the start of the year or at the end of the year when everybody starts screaming foul, because it looks like it has started early this season, check the results from Pomona for your answer....

Re: Team orders?
 

Which class, Stock, Super Stock or Comp? Maybe S/G or S/C? Or something of the Pro variety? It happens in every class!

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Thats just the norm for the west coast.
Kind of like winning a 6 round race and getting the same points as the guy who wins a 7 round race. That makes sence.

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Pretty sure he is referencing Jeff Taylor going -.176 red in the Defrank GT car vs Jimmy D in round 3. Winner received a 4th round bye. Personally, I don't have an issue with "team orders" but I can understand both sides.

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I can see both sides. Not my business.

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Impossible to prove or disprove......No way to police either if you
could prove it.

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Why would it matter to anyone who is not on the team? That's what a team does, whatever it takes for the benefit of the team. Beginning of the year, end of the year, west coast, your coast.........................why would anyone care?

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Why would it matter? I don't know ask drew skillman. I bet he could give you one reason.

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That's how it's done in a team atmosphere. All in for the team.

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May not be orders at all. Maybe he just bulbed. Did you see DeFrank's lights in eliminations? The guy is a machine. He doesn't need anyone to take a dive for him.

But, if it was a dive, who cares. I supposed I'd give it away too if I lined up against the car's owner. I doubt DeFrank gave him any orders.

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Would to hear Drew's story but he isn't here to tell us. Care to share?

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Well as I remember it was a couple of years ago when he got very close to the stock world championship, there was another one at Pomona also but who's counting. I never said it shouldn't happen, but at the end of the year everybody starts pointing fingers yet nothing is said at the start of the year, Also who is a team member?, are they team cars owned by one owner or do you just get paid to leave early or not show-up?

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I have never understood why some people will complain about a team car taking a dive. What about the 35 other win lights he has to turn on to be in the hunt for the championship? Seriously, 1 easy run out of 35 from a car that you own shouldn't even be discussed. Especially when that car has to get to the 3rd round to help you.
It's part of the game. Deal with it. Or buy 30 cars and bye-run your way to a championship, which probably still wouldn't happen.

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Justin Lamb and I were paired up to race in the 3rd round of Super Stock. I gave him the round, clear and simple.

The car I was racing (Unruh's '69 Camaro) was varying 3 tenths over the three time runs and 2 rounds of eliminations. Justin and his father changed everything in the fuel system that could be changed over those runs and we couldn't get it figured out (check out the incrementals). That being said I would of most likely given him the round regardless. We are a team and I want to have the best chance of winning the class whether it's me or Justin. Justin has a 8.40 car and hits the bottom bulb very well, that's a tough combo to beat. I was also in the third round of Super Comp and the two classes (Super Comp and Super Stock) were running back to back all 4 days, not a very easy task to have a clear head in the later rounds.

Good luck to all this year.

-Kyle
www.BracketRaces.com

Re: Team orders?
 

That`s normal. Not as many people notice because everyone is in the title hunt. At the end of the season everyone starts following the very few that still have a chance while racing in Vegas and Pomona.

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Is that sorta like dumpster diving? I did a little dumpster diving last year. All you do is take a bath after. It is especially good when the dumpster divette disperses himself of the non divers and wins the whole deal. Too much coffee again.