TRUstart tried at LVMS
 

First pass on Sunday the LVMS track used the
TRUstart system. It worked without any glitches
or issues and was well accepted and liked by most
of the racers I talked with at the track.

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I get to leave first & last. I can't really see how it can be unfair. If I spot a car, and they go red, I win with no effort. Is that nice for me? Sure. But how could this new system be unfair? I should have had to make a decent run to win. Fast cars losing their freebee rounds may not like it, but what legit complaints could they really have?

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None.

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It puts everyone on a level playing field. Besides the slow vs fast argument, I would think the TRUstart would be a boon to any racer where the dial is within a tenth or so of their competitor. With both cars trying hit their light, the least offending red light would prevail - which would only be right...

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The dial ins do not matter. A tenth or five seconds, it is now a fair game.

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Of all the rounds run how many times was the outcome changed from the current way? How many places to the right of the decimal point does it read when both go -.001 red?

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If they both go .001 red, the first red would lose. Right?

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Ed

I believe that's what we have at present.........?

Too simple that way, it would need to be carried out a little more.....

RJ

Re: TRUstart tried at LVMS
 

I believe the timing systems can discriminate several more decimal point
well past what is printed on the slips.

I have been in a Dead Heat at a National Race before on the slip and the
system still picks a winner.

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Now Ed don't go using common sense again. Only ones that wont like it are the new cars and modified because they get to leave last 90% of the time.

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I don't know how true it is but I have heard more than once,that if timing system comes down to true dead heat that left lane will get it????
Mike Taylor 3601

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The Compulink Timing System is accurate to 10 decimal places.

At 125 MPH (183.3 ft/sec) it can determine a winner within 0.000002197 inches.

In the case of a "tie", which according to Compulink has only happened 3 times in 30 years, both cars advance to the next round.

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...ronman-classic

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That may be true in a bracket race but what would they do in a eliminator that is run on a ladder? You cant have both move on.

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I saw a video a little while ago where someone tested the Compulink system. The video is extremely boring, but if you hang in for ~2 minutes, you can see the results. From what it looks like to me, the system is only accurate to ~0.001 seconds. This video was made in 2011, so maybe things have changed? Maybe this test should be done again?

https://youtu.be/74ztIJ4Atgs

In the video, the left lane always wins in a tie.

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"In the video, the left lane always wins in a tie."

Is that the one mentioned earlier that had happened just three times in thirty years?

If so, I don't think I'll live long enough to see it happen again...

Not to worry...

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According to the video, a tie occurs when the margin of victory is less than 0.001 seconds. I think this happens a lot. I've had margin of victory less than this before.

The video is saying that when the margin of victory is less than 0.001 seconds, Compulink chooses the left lane.

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5984 Mike Nemitz 3244 Megan Strassweg
E3 0.007 8.919 165.50 ****WINNER**** 0.018 8.908 169.85
S/C Index: 8.90 (+/-): 0.019 S/C Index: 8.90 (+/-): 0.008
Prior rounds:
E2 0.097 8.860 -0.040 (S Geiger ) -0.012 8.878 -0.022
E1 (D Dahlem ) 0.046 8.901 0.001 (A McClure ) 0.040 8.924 0.024
Qualified: #1 8.901 0.001 #11 8.924 0.024
Megan Strassweg's MOV: 0.0004 seconds (approximately 1 inch). She'll face Larson in round four.
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Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
6688 Mike Pruss 7888 John Roderick
E1 0.030 11.254 115.01 ****WINNER**** 0.059 11.675 112.03
F/S Dial: 11.12 (+/-): 0.134 F/SA Dial: 11.57 (+/-): 0.105
Qualified: #27 11.124 -0.876 #67 11.576 -0.484
John Roderick's MOV: 0.0004 seconds (approximately 1 inch).

Alyson I just found these two examples with the right lane as a winner with a .0004 mov on DragRaceCentral.

-Kyle
www.BracketRaces.com

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Then, what does this: "In the case of a "tie", which according to Compulink has only happened 3 times in 30 years, both cars advance to the next round.." mean?

I am thoroughly confused, now...