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Chipper Chapman 04-27-2016 05:51 PM

267 Chevy
 
Anyone ever run One of these in stock? Seems soft at 150hp

Rsmith38 04-27-2016 07:49 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Possibly Philbrick from Ontario? R/SA Monza record holder?

Neil Smedley 04-27-2016 07:57 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Philbrick`s is a 262 v8....different animal........Lee Tuttle from Albany Ga. runs a 267 in his 80 Camaro....classed in U/SA

brian schuetta 04-28-2016 05:14 AM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Would it work better in a Malibu? the engine was made from 79-81. Got one sitting here, haven't found pistons for it yet.

Billy Nees 04-28-2016 07:53 AM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Neat "Dime Rocket" combo! 81-82 would be the way to go. Just don't get carried away with it. Square bore and stroke, not a lot of compression and the front half of an 800 Q-Jet. Gonna have to build cylinder pressure with your cam choice and don't try to spin it too awful high. Camaro would be neat, 8.5 rear is easy and cheap. Malibu or Monte Carlo would need GN rear or aftermarket.

Mike Taylor 3601 04-28-2016 02:25 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
federal mogul did and should still have pistons,will be stock cast,maybe hypertec now.
any of piston companies could make forged versions if wanted and get add to approved list.
Federal Moguls should work fine.
Mike Taylor 3601

Dyno 04-28-2016 03:51 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Found a free 267 in the Dallas area on Craigslist. Real small valves and not much of a cam.

brian schuetta 04-28-2016 04:19 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
1.375 exhausts. The dual jet throttle openings look way small, I will take a Q-Jet off the shelve and compare the primaries to the dual jet. Has anybody ever seen the specs on a stocker cam for a 267? Milder duration than a 305, I wonder how much more mild.

Dwight Southerland 04-28-2016 05:08 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
One way to analyze the potential is to do a simple comparison based on NHRA hp rating divided by the displacement. Most 2bbl engines suffer from the same constraints of no airflow and mediocre camshafts, so the race potential of hp per cubic inch will be roughly in the same range. The 302 Ford engines come out with the best hp/disp factors using such a crude analysis. A few GM engines have a better hp/disp factor than the 267, but its factor of .56 hp/disp is not bad. Billy's 307 Nova at 168 hp has a hp/disp factor of .55, so you might use that as a comparison along with Lee Tuttle's car.

Billy Nees 04-28-2016 05:34 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
I know that this is not an apples to apples comparison but take a look at how fast Ronnie Charnes has been able to go with 3/4ths of a 267 and it has a smaller intake valve!
A million years ago, Buick did a bunch of testing on it's then just re-released V-6 and came to the conclusion that the engine size and number of cylinders didn't matter when it came to carburetor size. It was the volume of each cylinder that mattered the most.
Maybe it's not such a bad comparison after all.

Bob Shaw 04-28-2016 08:47 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 502027)
I know that this is not an apples to apples comparison but take a look at how fast Ronnie Charnes has been able to go with 3/4ths of a 267 and it has a smaller intake valve!
A million years ago, Buick did a bunch of testing on it's then just re-released V-6 and came to the conclusion that the engine size and number of cylinders didn't matter when it came to carburetor size. It was the volume of each cylinder that mattered the most.
Maybe it's not such a bad comparison after all.

So with a 300 cfm carb a 260 ci V8 would breathe better that a 260 ci V6?

Billy Nees 04-29-2016 07:27 AM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Shaw (Post 502043)
So with a 300 cfm carb a 260 ci V8 would breathe better that a 260 ci V6?

Yes.

Dwight Southerland 04-29-2016 09:20 AM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 502027)
It was the volume of each cylinder that mattered the most.
Maybe it's not such a bad comparison after all.


:rolleyes:

Mike Taylor 3601 04-29-2016 11:25 AM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
267 is .357/.390 lift @valve same lift as later 305's.

can be any duration you want is legal.
Mike Taylor 3601

Mark Yacavone 04-29-2016 01:17 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Engine too small / HP too high.
302 F f f ford !

Billy Nees 04-29-2016 03:20 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Mark, Mark, Mark, some people just don't want to go on the welfare.

brian schuetta 04-29-2016 04:23 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
So cam it like a 305? My old 305 cam was 268/271 ( 83' 305 flat top 416 head Q-Jet ) I'm sure the latest stuff is longer but not sure how much.

Billy Nees 04-29-2016 04:40 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 502113)
So cam it like a 305? My old 305 cam was 268/271 ( 83' 305 flat top 416 head Q-Jet ) I'm sure the latest stuff is longer but not sure how much.

Way too big!

Bill Bogues 04-29-2016 05:28 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
My friend and I have been running a 82 monte carlo with the 267 off and on for the last few years.While I can't say it was cheap compared to what it cost for a lot of stockers it wasn't bad in the age of 100.000 ones. So far we've run a best of 14.20 @91mph.It's been a lot of fun running it and it's about as low maintence as you could want for a racecar...Love that DUALJET!

Mike Taylor 3601 04-30-2016 03:13 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 502115)
Way too big!

lift is same,can use your 305 cam just won't go anywhere quick!
what Billy said.
My brother had one in malibu we went 9.50's 1/8 in U(15 years ago) pulled it put on dyno had about 185hp,got it up to 220hp broke some rockers,we pulled it to get new cam,and he never did touch it after that,I have thought,going and getting it and using it.
Mike Taylor 3601

Chipper Chapman 05-02-2016 12:55 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
All very interesting. I have one here that was just pulled for a 350 swap. Going to use it to setup the old dyno I acquired and kinda thought it may be fun to mess with.

Bench Racer 05-03-2016 08:19 PM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
To the best of my memory J.T. Allen was a killer with one of these in a Malibu. J.T. always ran obscure combos in IHRA back in the day and made the fast cars live hard every pass. He usually had a .00 and was on the brakes lol.

Mike Taylor 3601 05-04-2016 09:36 AM

Re: 267 Chevy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bench Racer (Post 502517)
To the best of my memory J.T. Allen was a killer with one of these in a Malibu. J.T. always ran obscure combos in IHRA back in the day and made the fast cars live hard every pass. He usually had a .00 and was on the brakes lol.

Hard to keep up with all JT's cars,he had several different 267 cars, had malibu wagon in pure stock is one I remember and one was monte carlo I believe w/267

Mike Taylor 3601


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