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Heard today that thanks to an insane amount of Jealousy on the behalf of NHRA. Rob got escorted off the starting line and was told if he posts anything they will shut him down.. He was told he is only allowed to video from the stands. And still isn't allowed to post it.

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I might understand NHRA's position if All Access were broadcasting, but it isn't. Do they get a piece of the D3TV stream?

Too bad. I enjoy Rob's videos.

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I'll bet if they could made a damn dime off of his videos they be happy to let him post them. I take a lot of pictures from the stands and had the opportunity at Micheal Beards first race in Hebron and met Rob and we worked beside each other on the track. Really nice guy and takes a great video. I have looked at pictures from the pros and the ones I took on the track and I have come to the conclusion that I get a better shot most of the time from the stands because you see the whole car and not just the wheel stand in most cases which only shows the underside. Just a few from 4 wide divisional this year.

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After a 15 hour ride and wet weekend to boot
now this....
Wonder if he will be treated this way back home in D1...
Do racers have rights to their car`s image or is that waived in the small print somewhere.


Mike A114
P/SA

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You have no right to your car's image at any sanctioned event under any sanctioning body. Otherwise they couldn't easily use pictures from their events to promote their events.

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You give up all of your rights when you enter any NHRA event

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Too bad NHRA can't see the potential,
Many folks see genuine organized Drag Racing for the first time because of good videos posted on sites like YouTube. Then they want to talk about it with people actually involved, get involved themselves then show up in the stands to get a good dose, to the benefit of everyone.

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Hello Everyone. It is true, I asked for starting line credentials today and was given them to video, then when they realized it was video(they were'nt listening?) they stopped me. I contacted the NHRA like I did two years ago when I got permission to continue doing what I was doing, this time they just quoted me All Access. When I asked a couple of questions on what I could do to be within NHRA guidelines I was told there was nothing I could do. I was told and I quote, "I could go on NHRA.com and click on the link, sign the appropriate paperwork requesting permission for an event, and it would then be denied!" I then found out I made Glendora's watch list as of January this year! I'm so proud! So what I'm going to do for this event is post on YouTube unlisted for my own enjoyment, and maybe if my friends ask, I'll supply the link. We'll see. ;-)

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Thanks Rob
We enjoy your videos
Hope this works out for you.


Mike A114
P/SA

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Sounds like "overreaching" regulations, just like EPA!

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Good luck Rob your vids have helped NHRA get more people involved they are clueless in Glendora! Money sucking thieves!!!

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"The beatings will continue until morale improves "

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Sorry to hear about your bad luck there Rob.

Your videos are the best quality out there, IMO.

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This is very upsetting. Its not like the NHRA videos our classes at any good angle or with any artistic flair. How much longer are they going to continue to use that stupid camera on the centerline pointing back at the tree, which does ZERO justice to how any drag car leaves...

Time to write some emails to NHRA folks. Keep it respectful, professional and on point, but get moving on this. One key point, is that Rob's videos have become so popular on YouTube and Facebook, that they could clearly be considered a "Free plug" for NHRA. I understand the whole "All Access" thing being in competition with Rob, but right now, the masses and generation X are getting exposed to NHRA sportsman racing because of Rob's videos on social media. How in the heck can that be bad for NHRA?

Sorry to hear about this Rob. I'm betting, it will reverse course soon......

Kevin

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I believe that waiving the rights to the car's image only applies to NHRA use. Anyone else would have to get a signed property release from you to use photographs of your car for commercial purposes. The only exception is for news coverage.

Jim

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Speaking of which, got this the other day
It was in response to the petition that was on here a while back.




May 27, 2016

Dear Mr. Jones:


Thank you very much for contacting me regarding H.R. 4715, the Recognizing the Protection of Motorsports Act. I appreciate hearing from you on this matter and I welcome the opportunity to respond.


As you may know, H.R. 4715 would amend the Clean Air Act to block the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from regulating modified motor vehicles, which can be used for racing and different activities.



You may be pleased to know that the EPA announced it was dropping proposed language that would have prevented amateur drivers from converting street cars into race cars. The proposed language was part of a rule introduced by EPA in 2015.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact me. I appreciate hearing from you and ask that you keep me informed on matters of concern to you in the futu

Sincerely,

ROSA L. DeLAURO

Member of Congress

RLD/mg

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Rob and All

I am reading this after a busy day of doing something other than racing with NHRA. It seems to me, you are a great media representative. NHRA gets an unpaid genius working for free, and then ban him! >W-T-F<

Rob, If they really want to help themselves, and the racers, they would give you an air conditioned suite, and full fiber optic internet. You are as good as they get.

I filmed some classic racing in the old days, and can tell everyone, that a camcorder isn't the best way to watch racing. Your sacrifice is most appreciated, I can't believe you do it for free!

NHRA doesn't have many paid workers humping it harder than you do.
Your quality is outstanding, and they should be kissing your butt, and comp-ing you like a new soda CFO king pin.

In today's new media age, everyone is a reporter, but most average Joe's are lousy at that.
With video, it only matters if you got the shot.
NHRA has a great product in the class cars, but they don't market it.
Oh and shame on anyone promoting it.
It looks like another year of stupid from the new Glendora, same as the old Glendora!

ex NHRA member

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Rob, your videos are among the best out there. I always have enjoyed them and wish you good luck in the future. I guess NHRA isn't paying attention to what is going on out there. When you have a guy or gal giving you free promotion why would you put a stop to it. Doesn't make any sense to me. Oh, wait a minute, I forgot common sense doesn't apply anymore.

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They are for sure the best I hope Rob can get nhra to allow the videos to go on they aren't hurting any one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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To be fair, there was a sponsor who paid money to have the race live streamed on you tube.

If you owned that sponsor, and paid out your sponsorship dollars, to provide free live streamed coverage for fans over the Internet, how would you feel about NHRA allowing someone else to post videos for the cost of press credentials?

I don't have anything at all against Rob. However, I do understand where both NHRA and the sponsor of the live Internet video feed could have a problem with what he wanted to do, from a business view point.

As a solution, maybe Rob should talk to that sponsor about using what he does to enhance their coverage.

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True but I'll bet Rob would have shown the later rounds and also the "sportsman" finals. Good luck Rob and thanks for all you try to do.

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The race was live streamed all the way through every final round race, and it was an all sportsman show.

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No sir! Whatever laws (Federal & state) that are in place in the state you are in is what you and NHRA must adhere to. NHRA can not supersede state and Federal law. Your rights do vary depending on the state. NHRA would like to have you think that they are the law makers but they are just hoping you won't call them on it! Jim


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Couldn't agree with you more Don! Rob is the best of the best and NHRA is missing the boat (as usual) on this one. Butch's stills are also superb and promote our great sport in an excellent way. Alan's idea (post above) is a winner also. If NHRA would just enlist some of these great talents and ideas it would be a win-win situation for all involved! Jim

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After watching D3TV .... which I like ...Robs video coverage is still fare superior . To be fair I have not see any of the all access footage ( I would like to check it out , but I don't now anyone who paid for it ! ) I will not pay for a product , like all access that maybe inferior to what Rob has and then be disappointed for $99 on top of membership fees. In my opinion , I suspect the sponsor of all access maybe paying for a product that is inferior ...They should pay Rob for his work and include it in there coverage and then maybe I and others would by more willing pony up the money for all access ....If they can't see the value in Robs work they must be blind ...They ( the nhra and the sponsor ) really need to reconsider this matter ....and amend there contract ...

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Someone else paid for you to watch D3TV. The sponsor(s) gave it to you, they paid for it. Maybe if he wants to offer video, when someone else has paid for the rights to do so, he can work something out where he adds his to theirs, for the rights to shoot and post his.

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The All access is well worth the money in my opinion. Probably the best thing NHRA has done in a long time, lots of different camera angles. I was hesitant at first to purchase but I piss away lots of Bens on stuff not near as good as this.
I enjoy Robs videos too but as Alan said in a world where someone is paying sponsorship money for something NHRA really has no choice on something like that. That sponsor paid for those rights.

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Don't know that, as I was busy all day and went on You Tube d3tv to watch the finals and it did not show any thing after like 10.48 hrs of the show ?? Maybe no full replay. Still that way now!

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I am in the process of uploading an HD copy of the entire live stream. We had internet challenges that reduced the quality and had a lot of buffering. It should be completed by the end of the evening. On race day, we do live stream every run of qualifying and eliminations, so viewers did get that coverage through the end in real time.
As an aside, I like Rob's videos as well, and relayed that to him when I met him in Bowling Green. We are not trying to do the same thing - mine is a full broadcast, his is more specific highlight-oriented action. It's good to like them both!

Warren Evans
D3TV

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Well Rob,

Your more then welcomed at any of my events!!! I'll be calling you soon since I'm still working on that Barnes guy.

Rob Keister

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The D3 I looked at was real good.

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Here is the missing footage from Bowling Green on Sunday night, through the final rounds:
https://youtu.be/K_FcutGmhe0

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Yeah. That white Corvette footage made my day.

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That is a potential rational argument, however, based on what we've been told of the encounter, it is not an argument that NHRA even made.

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Mine wasn't as good. Don't know. Maybe it's my internet service. A lot of reloading in the middle of a run and interruptions.

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Terry - Please take a look at the link a couple of posts above. The internet at Bowling Green was intermittent at best; I recorded through the final rounds and reposted most of that footage.

Thanks -
Warren Evans
D3TV

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Mine played better in full screen.

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Thanks Jim for the compliment.

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Just remove all logos and/or references to you and post your videos on kat.cr or thepiratebay.org

Most people need the crutch of youtube to watch videos, but if they really want to see them, they'll figure it out. :)