Lookin for NHRA Stock Class ET/MPH from 1970-71
 

Hi there I hope this is a good place to ask this.

I am compiling an ET/MPH history of how all the old 1950-1970 iron ran back in the day.
The rules (and cars) changed so much after 1971 I am stopping there.
Cant do em all.
Today's ET/MPH have almost no relevance since the technology and rules are so different.

I have found that my Gonkulator program can do a decent job of estimating, but I like to have some ET/MPH data on a car to start with.


For example:
I have tons of "Road Test" data on the Ford 429tj/cj/scj cars, 90-106mph seems to be the range unless a plug wire was off.
The SCJ cars always run 100+ MPH.

But, I can find NOTHING on NHRA stock class times. http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cry.gif
As examples I gonkulated the following but again have NO real data from back then, with 1970 NHRA class:

429/360 TJ auto: H/SA
13.24 at 104.0

429/360 TJ 4spd: H/S
12.90 at 107.0

429/375 SCJ 4spd: G/S
11.92 at 116.1

That's the kind of stuff I m looking for but REAL timeslip data.



I found a couple:
1970 LS6
11.49 at 120.1 C/S


1970 W30:
12.96 at 108.0 G/SA
I've searched the net and every book I can but very little on stock (or even super stock) 1970 cars from back then.
Any help appreciated!

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Not sure if this will help by here are the NHRA records from June 1968

June 1968

NHRA Stock Class 'National Records'

A/S ........ 11.89 ...... 1966 Ford Fairlane - 427/410 HP
A/S ....... 117.95 ..... 1968 Chevrolet Camaro 'SS 396' - 396/375 HP

B/S ....... 12.23 ....... 1965 Ford Galaxie - 427/425 HP
B/S ....... 116.12 ..... 1966 Chevrolet Biscayne - 427/425 HP

C/S ....... 12.27 ....... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP
C/S ....... 114.64 ..... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP

D/S ....... 12.39 ....... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP
D/S ....... 113.63 ..... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP

E/S ....... 12.70 ....... 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass 'Ram Rod' - 350/325 HP
E/S ....... 107.65 ..... 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass 'Ram Rod' - 350/325 HP

F/S ....... 12.78 ....... 1961 Chevrolet Corvette - 283/270 HP
F/S ....... 107.47 ..... 1961 Chevrolet Corvette - 283/270 HP

G/S ...... 12.85 ........ 1957 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 283/283 HP
G/S ...... 107.14 ...... 1957 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 283/283 HP

H/S ....... 12.92 ...... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/283 HP
H/S ....... 107.39 .... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/283 HP

I/S ........ 13.11 ...... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/270 HP
I/S ....... 104.28 ..... 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 'Sport Coupe' - 283/270 HP

J/S ....... 13.14 ...... 1957 Chevrolet 'Beauville' Station Wagon - 283/283 HP
J/S ....... 105.50 .... 1957 Chevrolet 'Beauville' Station Wagon - 283/283 HP

K/S ...... 13.59 ...... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/245 HP
K/S ...... 101.35 .... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/245 HP

L/S ...... 13.73 ...... 1957 Chevrolet 'Townsman' Station Wagon- 283/245 HP
L/S ...... 100.78 .... 1957 Chevrolet 'Townsman' Station Wagon - 283/245 HP

M/S ..... 13.97 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP
M/S ..... 99.00 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP

N/S ..... 14.09 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/195 HP
N/S ..... 97.82 ...... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/195 HP

O/S ..... 14.22 ..... 1955 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 265/180 HP
O/S ..... 96.67 ..... 1955 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 265/180 HP

P/S ...... 15.24 ..... 1954 Buick Century - 322/195 HP
P/S ...... 90.70 ..... 1959 Chevrolet Biscayne - 283/185 HP

Q/S ..... 16.00 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Handyman Special' - 283/162 HP
Q/S ..... 84.74 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Handyman Special' - 283/162 HP

R/S ..... 16.19 ...... 1953 Oldsmobile 'Super 88' - 303/165 HP
R/S ..... 82.15 ...... 1953 Oldsmobile 'Super 88' - 303/165 HP

T/S ..... 16.19 ...... 1954 Studebaker Commander - 232/120 HP
T/S ..... 84.19 ...... 1954 Studebaker Commander - 232/120 HP

U/S .... 16.78 ...... 1951 Oldsmobile 'Series 88' Club Coupe - 303/135 HP
U/S .... 81.22 ...... 1950 Oldsmobile 'Series 76' Station Wagon - 257/105 HP


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A/SA ..... 12.16 ....... 1967 Mercury Comet - 427/410 HP
A/SA .... 115.08 ...... 1967 Mercury Comet - 427/410 HP

B/SA .... 12.43 ........ 1963 Dodge #330 'Station Wagon' - 426/415 HP
B/SA .... 114.94 ...... 1963 Plymouth Belvedere 'Station Wagon' - 426/415 HP

C/SA .... 12.58 ....... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP
C/SA .... 112.78 ..... 1962 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-421' - 421/405 HP

D/SA .... 12.49 ....... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP
D/SA .... 112.50 ..... 1968 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 'W-30' - 400/360 HP

E/SA .... 12.79 ....... 1968 Plymouth Barracuda - 340/275 HP
E/SA .... 109.75 ..... 1968 Plymouth Barracuda - 340/275 HP

F/SA .... 13.11 ........ 1957 Ford Custom 'Business Tudor' ~ 312/300 HP
F/SA .... 107.07 ...... 1960 Pontiac Catalina 'SD-389' - 389/363 HP

G/SA .... 13.50 ....... 1965 Pontiac Catalina - 421/356 HP
G/SA .... 107.82 ..... 1957 Ford Custom 'Tudor' - 312/300 HP

H/SA .... 13.40 ....... 1965 Chevrolet Impala 'Super Sport' - 327/300 HP
H/SA .... 107.45 ..... 1957 Ford Fairlane '500' - 312/300 HP

I/SA ..... 13.62 ....... 1960 Pontiac Bonneville - 389/333 HP
I/SA ..... 102.97 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 283/250 HP

J/SA ..... 13.62 ....... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/250 HP
J/SA ..... 101.69 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/250 HP

K/SA .... 13.80 ....... 1956 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan Utility' - 265/225 HP
K/SA .... 100.22 ..... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/245 HP

L/SA .... 14.05 ....... 1956 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/225 HP
L/SA .... 97.93 ....... 1956 Chevrolet #150 'Handyman Special' - 265/225 HP

M/SA ... 14.48 ....... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/220 HP
M/SA ... 99.08 ....... 1957 Chevrolet #210 'Sedan' - 283/220 HP

N/SA ... 14.67 ....... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP
N/SA ... 95.04 ....... 1955 Chevrolet #150 'Sedan' - 265/195 HP

Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

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H/S 1968 Chevy II NHRA record holder in 1970-1971. 350 Hi Compression engine, Muncie trans. Ran low 12.'s at 112 on an average run on 7" slicks. Weather conditions and the track itself played a big part in those numbers. Showroom stock street driven cars is a completely different story. Most muscle cars ran 14's and maybe some high 13's. Street tires were not usually going to allow fast et's back then. Limited et's on even the most powerful cars. Tracks were almost all asphalt. No concrete yet other than a very few places. Asphalt was fine in cool weather but terrible in the hot summer. 7" slicks were marginal on high HP stock cars back then. Big block cars routinely went pretty sideways sometimes off the line.

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Rick T,
Thanks, I have that June 1968 list already.
A "June 1970" list like that would be a gold mine.


Rich B,
Thanks, I have your Nova already at 12.25 at 114mph - a "good weather" day?

Re: Lookin for NHRA Stock Class ET/MPH from 1970-71
 

I have a 1970 record page somewhere. I'll look for it....It was from late in the year.

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As shown on that list, for C/SA, those old 421SD Pontiacs were quick, back in the '60's. No tellin how many national records they set, thru those years. I've read that Don Gay won A/S at the '63 US Nationals with a 12.81 @ 112 mph.

http://www.pontiacsonline.com/Don%20Gay.htm

http://www.hotrod.com/cars/featured/...na-super-duty/

This one is said to have set the national record with a 12.27 @ 114.64mph in C/S, in 1963.

http://www.supercars.net/blog/1963-p...-swiss-cheese/

There were also several 389 Pontiac wagon combos that set quite a few records.

http://www.hotrod.com/cars/new-car-r...reaking-bonne/

And, of course, their were lots of GTO's that set records, and won races. Knafel Pontiac & Royal Pontiac are 2 dealers that campaigned Pontiac drag cars.

http://www.hotrod.com/features/histo...n-pontiac-gto/

http://www.royalpontiac.org/royal%20...20history.html

http://geetotiger.com/jimwangers.htm

And, when the Firebirds came along, they too, set records and won races. But, some of these feats came along after your cut off date of '71.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=14902

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Thanks Rich !!!

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Indy Auto Class winners 1970

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I have that record page on my desktop computer. Tried to post it but it was just not very readable. I will try making a bigger copy tomorrow at work and post it.

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This one is said to have set the national record with a 12.27 @ 114.64mph in C/S, in 1963.

http://www.supercars.net/blog/1963-p...-swiss-cheese/


I saw that but still cant figure how a 3300 lb Swiss Cat got into C/S at 10.60 lb/hp in 1963. What am I missing?

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Thankx=
I was able to read the A/SA-O/SA page ok but not the deleted one

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Ha Mr. DueceCoupe, I like your "Gonkulater" reference, I still use that word myself. Who else does and who knows where it came from?

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If you have a smart phone I can send you the record sheet I have by text message...

I had no luck trying to upload the page on here.

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Go to http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182 and look up Werbyford

Re: Lookin for NHRA Stock Class ET/MPH from 1970-71
 

Well since Mike "outed" me, here is the story of WerbyFord:


http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1161223242


I use DeuceCoupe as my token nod to Political Correctness (a neutral name for 32 Ford or Chevy II), but the Gonkulator got its name from the WerbyFord dialogue.

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PM sent!
thanks

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That's funny too, I don't hang out at all on the Ford boards, I did it once to find out how to get rid of my pesky POS '06 dually and Ford bought it back from me, thx.

There's a mention of a Gongulator from an American Sitcom from back in the '70's that I watched while back in the old country as a teenager, I'll never forgot that reference and I still use it today!

Without research, who else remembers the show?

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Hogan's Heros was a very funny show. Watched it many times. It was from the mid to late 1960's. We used to watch it at the guys house who got me and my buddy involved in Drag Racing ....
Sundays sometimes after a day of racing at Island Dragway.....
His mother made us something to eat and we watched the show.

I am sure you can find it on TV now as there are channels that play nothing but old shows...

Schulz.....Klink....Hogan....and numerous others...

Schulz had all the best lines with his heavy German Accent...

"Hogan....Where is the streudel??? You promised!"

" I see nothing!!!!"

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That's the one, Hogan's Heroes, and I still remember the Gonkulator episode. So Ross on FordFE.com named my computer program the Gonkulator, WerbyFord got added, the rest is history mainly on that site but some others too, inliners, StevesNova, etc.


I just started Gonkulating all the early NHRA history, 1950s-1971.
Hard to find comprehensive real et/mph so I am compiling a list from books, web, etc. Graphing them is very revealing.


Rich just sent me a list of the 1970 record holders, only 3 1970 cars in there, I am guessing the car/engine since they just list the make:
H/S GTO 400/350 112.55mph
F/SA Cutlass W30 12.23et
G/SA RoadRunner 383/335 12.40et

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I have Classification Guides for that era. Since that was before the days of factoring and weight adjustment, the body-engine combinations could be narrowed down, if you would be interested. The 1957 Chevrolet Q/S would be a 265-162hp, not a 283. Technically, the 283-185hp engine was for automatic transmission only, though that was blurred from the beginning.

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Very much interested. I have the Rule Books from 1958-1968 (but not 1969-71) but the only Classification Guides I have are the current ones on line. There are good to get weights, but still a big spread eg 57 Chev from lightest to heaviest. So just knowing its a 57 Chev doesn't mean much. And of course 68 Chev could mean big car, Chevelle, Camaro.


For example, in the sheet Rich B already posted it lists Kost's W30 in F/SA. NHRA says 3720lb for the 442 W30 and 3720/370 puts it in G/SA in 1970. So I figure, well maybe it was a plain Cutlass at 3607lb which works for F/SA. If I didn't guess at some stuff I wouldn't get very far.


I think they were factoring some stuff by 1968-1970 eg Ford's 428cj got factored right away to 360hp - different for ramair and non-ramair too. But they hadn't gone factor-crazy yet.


I could sure use that Classification Guide info but not sure how to get it from you, that's a lot of info unless its in a PDF you could Email.

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Sorry, but the Class Guides I have are red binders, no PDFs!

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I am really just looking for HP-FACTORS, ie engines where NHRA changed the ratings. For example the 428cj was 335hp from Ford.
NHRA factored it to 360hp.
Then I THINK they factored the flat-hood-non-ram-air version to 340hp, I know it was different than the ram-air.


I think stuff like the 302z28, Mopar 340, Ford 427, Chev 396/375 and 427s, Chev 350/255 LM1, maybe the LS6 and 455/w30 also got factored pretty quick.


That's really the info I need, hard to imagine they could change all the shipping weights so I assume the online stuff today is as good as any on those.


Thanks if you can list any of those factors!

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There was no factoring back then. Factory HP ratings stood and shipping weights as listed in the guide book. No driver weight was added. A car was weighed by itself and had to have 5 gals of gas in it. That was very specific and it cost us a record once. Pretty silly since the driver weighed 200 lbs.
The man who had the ultimate say on all of it was Farmer Dismuke. What he said was final. He could change a HP rating I believe. You have to keep in mind stock back then was not "Stock". Aftermarket pistons and rings other than stock were allowed. Cams were definitely not stock. New cars cost a lot of $$$ and the old cars were much more readily available, cheaper and proven combos. New cars were run by people with dealership connections or maybe factory support. And any new car/engine combo was a bit of a risk to see how fast it could run. For instance......the 1969 350/255 Chevy was not real popular at first until others showed how good it could run. The lower compression ratio made people hesitant to run one.The class guide book was huge....and cost some $$. People used to sit and dig thru it looking for good looking combinations. They still do! 2 books. Class guide and engine blueprint specs. All available now right here thanks to Dwight.

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Here is what Rich sent if I can get attachments to work.

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I believe the CobraJet factoring was in super stock classes. Red Anderson once told me that the first stock factor was on the 255hp 350. The super stock classes from 1967 through early 1970s were the hotbed of factoring. When Stock was reintroduced in 1972, the SS factors were carried over to them. I know that the 396-375 Camaros carried a factor of 415 until 1981 from the efforts of Wally Booth, Bill Jenkins and others who raced them in SS.

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I had one of those, finally fell apart.

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Hogan's heros was awesome!

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Looking at the old class guide, the 1968-70 CobraJets were rated at 340 non-ram air, 360 ram air. The sheets have the NHRA oval logo at the bottom and the date 1970 beside the logo. The hp rating is not listed on the sheet, I had to calculate based on the shipping weight from current data.


The 1967-69 Camaros 396 375 were rated at 425. Interesting that they list a 1970 Camaro with an LS6 450hp.

Any others you need info about?

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Dwight,


Thanks so much for that!
I suspected that about the 428cj, from an old article (Nov.69 SS&DI)about a 428cj Cyclone saying they could run either F/SA or G/SA just by changing to a flat hood (ie no ram air). The 360hp and 340hp factors are what I had guessed.


Others I suspect were factored in stock class back then:
302/290z28 (290, yeah, sure)
427/425L72 (if the L78 was factored, why not the L72?)
427/430L88/ZL1 (same logic)
302/290boss
340/275mopar
426/425hemi


455/370w30
The reason I suspect this last one is as follows:
NHRA weight is 3720, both today & back then.
HP is 370
Even I don't need a calculator to see 3720/370=10.0x (10.05)
But most of these cars are shown running in F=9.50 and then some talk of them moving themselves up to E=9.00 to avoid a certain z28 that dominated F/S. Wouldn't all these W30 cars belong in G/S unless either they were factored to say 390hp, or the weight was wrong (w30 did have a glass hood & alum intake so that's possible?)


Well if you can look up any of those I would much appreciate it as I have no other way to get the info!

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Z28 302s were 315hp. I can look up the others tonight.

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Have a lot ,but can't resize them to fit.

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For your inquiry, here is what I found:


302-290 Z28 315 rating
427-425hp L72 435 rating
427-420hp L88/ZL1 480 rating
302-290hp Boss 330 rating
340-275hp MoPar 310 rating
426-425hp Street Hemi 480 rating
455-370hp Olds W30 380 rating
350-255hp 1969 Chevrolet 265 rating
400-370 1969 Pontiac RAIV 380 rating


Your '62 Pontiac 421-405hp combination was listed with and without the lightweight components, which we do not have in the current Class Guide. In 1969, C/S was an 8.50 break; in 1970, C/S was an 8.00 break. The lightweight component car would have made C/S easily @ 8.57 factor.


Odd items:
1) I cannot find a listing for the '68 Dart SS Hemi car.
2) The ZL1 '69 Corvette is in the guide
3) The LS7 '70 Corvette is in the guide

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Thanks Dwight this is filling in a lot of details.
Those factored HP make a lot of those cars fit the class they ran in.
I did read that the 340/275 was factored to 310hp in Nov.67.
Also read that the 426/425 Hemi was factored at 465hp circa 1966-68 somewhere, so must have moved up to a 480hp factor later.


Agreed on those "allowed" combos that never existed - the Hydromatic sedan deliveries, and all those automatic HiPo Fords. All the 352HiPo, 390HiPo, 406, and 427solid Fords I know of were stick shift only except for a few dozen 64 Thunderbolts. But all those engines were allowed with automatics behind them. Oh well.


On the Pontiac Saga - I think I am on track to solve part of it.
The mystery comes from this story on the 1963 Swiss Cheese Packer / Masales car- says here it set the C/S record IN 1963 at 12.27 at 114.6mph.


http://www.supercars.net/blog/1963-p...-swiss-cheese/


However, I found this link detailing the class records as of June 1968:


http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/...ecords.298236/


Note the C/S=9.00 record is listed as a 1962 421 Super Duty, exactly the same et/mph, 12.27 at 114.6.
So it looks like indeed that record was still standing but was set by a 1962 Cat, not a 1963 Swiss Cheese Cat.


That 1962 Cat (maybe it was in fact Masales, I cant find that info) would likely have weighed at least 3650 even with aluminum, putting it into SS/S in 1962 but C/S=9.00 in 1968 (or today, since todays upper brackets are the 1968 brackets.


The numbers jive with this story - the 1962 Cat held the 9.00 record as late as 1968 when C/S=9.00. I suspect the supercars.net link is mixing up a 1963 Swiss Cat with a 1962 Aluminum Cat, perhaps both Masales cars.


I don't think the Swiss Cheese Cats were ever allowed in STOCK, not 1963, not 1968, not ever, as only a few were built, 14 IIRC. Stuck in A/FX or B/FX at least in NHRA. There were over 150 Aluminum Cats so those were allowed in Stock.


Some good info in this link too, Milt Schornack's Bobcat book, notes Masales driving in 1962, and the ballasting (150+Lb spare tire) used in the 1963 Swiss Cheese Cats. At 3300lb, the unballasted Swiss Cats could run A/FX, but I think they were typically ballasted up (in the rear I bet) to B/FX=9.00 lb/CID weight. The real Swiss Cheese times I have found range from 11.69-12.59 at 117-123mph, so that 114.6mph always seemed a bit slow to me for a Swiss car.
.
https://books.google.com/books?id=P8...les%22&f=false


I am trying to figure this out one snipet at a time so of course comments welcome if anybody remembers details.
It brings back my memories of hearing on the car radio:
"Sundaaaaaaaaaaaay, at Detroit Dragwaaaaaaaaaay"
At least I got to run there a couple times. Long gone today.

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I was disappointed that they left off the r/u of O/SA because it was yours truly.
Dick Butler 14.266 94.4 MPH.
Still think that running without water in the motor(therefore no resistance to water pump) helped the winner...

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Dick,
If you can provide details about your combo it would help my historical effort. Year/make/model/engine/trans/rear, anything else special.


Also if you recall any of the other cars on that sheet - some of them are obviously "brake light" runs so I don't learn much from Gonkulating them. EG I think these were "Brake Light" runs:
A/SA Cohen 427/425?
D/SA Morgan 426/415 wagon?
F/SA Kost w30
H/SA kenney
H/SA Dillman, something broke?
J/SA Andrews
M/SA Iaconio
N/SA Boertman Biscayne LM1
As you can see I am scrounging to determine the model/engine of these cars, but the Brake Light runs don't really matter since I am trying to match the MPH.

As you know the sheet just says "69 Chev" etc, no model, no engine/hp so it's often hard to figure out.

I am also looking for results like these (or records) from 1971, particularly on 1970-71 model cars, but it sure is hard to find.

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My car was a 56 2 dr 150 wagon. (it was the John Dianna Delivery I converted )
I ran 265, corvette 225 hp with 2 four barrels and a Powerglide. I had only run car 2 weeks before in this form. I was a true beginner.

Note: most of the 69 350 cars were running the low 255 hp.

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Thanks Dick.
That's the level of detail that helps.
I ran your combo in the Gonkulator I wrote- what is becoming my "standard 265/225" now Gonkulates at about 290-300hp gross at 6000 or so. Fat cam, loose clearances, etc. I hit the 94+ mph on the 1st computer run, but I had to use a 4000 stall and about a 5.36 gear to get down to your 14.27 ET.
Sound about right?


Agreed, pretty much if it says "69 Chev" it means 350/255hp/LM1 - factored already to 270hp but still strong.

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Nate Cohen 427/425 was a 67 Fairlane I believe. Joe Kenny was a 62 Mopar wagon 383/343. Frank Iaconio was a 57 Chevy 2dr sedan run with a 250 HP FI engine with a P/G.Dave Boertman was a 69 full size Chevy with a 350/255, Bill Morgan was a max wedge Plymouth wagon....as in Tritak and Morgan....War Wagon