CLASS RACER FORUM

CLASS RACER FORUM (https://classracer.com/classforum/index.php)
-   Stock and Super Stock (https://classracer.com/classforum/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock (https://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=62834)

Mike Delahanty 07-08-2016 07:17 PM

Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
A good read - from Jon Asher.

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...say-it-is-over

Mark Yacavone 07-08-2016 07:32 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Yes, we know all this..Old news.
The problem is the average fuel zombie walking around in the pits, COULDN'T care less.

Alan Roehrich 07-08-2016 09:40 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Asher is usually close to being correct. Not this time.

What he did get right is that Pro Stock may indeed be on the way out.

And NHRA is so disconnected they'll never figure out how to fix it.

HR9121 07-08-2016 10:57 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
I'm afraid Pro Stock will be fazed out in favor of Pro Mod. The fans like Pro Mod better because it more closely related to their beloved fuel cars, lots of explosions and wrecking.

1320racer 07-09-2016 06:05 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
pro stock has been on life support for at least a decade and will be gone as we know it within 5 years. The bigger concern should be is when does the plug get pulled on professional drag racing that the NHRA has been trying to sell for the last decade?

Jimbo17 07-09-2016 08:48 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
I used to love Pro Stock but in the past 5 years it has really gotten boring and I understand that NHRA has tried different things in an effort to make it better but just looking at the car counts I think everyone can see a trend right now.

Someone said the reason the car counts are down is because it is so expensive to run this class.

Maybe they are right but it hurts to watch this class slowly fading away into time.

Jim Hill

hilton 07-09-2016 11:12 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Bring back Prostock Truck .It was fun watching a new class evolve like Prostock did in the seventys

ALMACK 07-09-2016 01:23 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
I really liked Pro Stock when the body shapes and dimensions were very close to production cars.

In the 90's when rules got loosened up and the bodies became more 'cartoonish", I lost interest, especially because of the roof high hood scoops.

As far as Factory Stock being the next "Pro Stock", I doubt that will happen..
Pro Mod is more popular than FS so I believe PM will replace PS

V M Kauffman 07-09-2016 02:41 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 508731)
I really liked Pro Stock when the body shapes and dimensions were very close to production cars.

In the 90's when rules got loosened up and the bodies became more 'cartoonish", I lost interest, especially because of the roof high hood scoops.

As far as Factory Stock being the next "Pro Stock", I doubt that will happen..
Pro Mod is more popular than FS so I believe PM will replace PS

Come on guys Asher is Asher always has been.
NHRA will do whatever the Factory's PAY FOR IT. So that being said it would be up to GM and Mopar. Ford will not pay for anything in DragRacing their $$$$ going to IMSA to the tune somewhere north of $250 million a year for the next 3 years.

Like it or not NHRA may have to take the Pro Stock purse to pay for the paid in Top Fuelers and Funny Cars to fill the fields at the National Events.

Ok stocker 07-09-2016 03:10 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
The last time I enjoyed Pro Stock was back when you could run different motor combos and all the different body styles that were different wheel bases. The 70's were the golden ages of creativity. Pro Stock is during because of the rules no one has a connection to the cars or respect for the cookie cutter motors. Bring back the variety.

PozQB14 07-09-2016 04:22 PM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Last summer my brother and i were at a swap meet/car show and we had a chance to speak to an NHRA division director who was at a racers booth. We had a great conversation about the future of the NHRA and the issues within the sportsman categories and such. But one big thing we talked about was the pro stockers and the changes they were making to the class and the lack of viewing with the general public. He assured us that pro stock was going nowhere for atleast one reason....they're still handling law suits from pro stock truck teams. NHRA dropped the truck category after these teams spent millions to compete, and they won't do the same thing to the pro stock cars. They'll let the teams die out before they decide to do away with the whole class. He was really forthcoming which was very appreciated.

Fatman 07-10-2016 06:15 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Pro stock is dying because of the economy, and NHRA's lack of promoting the class. P/S has been left out in the cold to starve. I like many others had hoped that the new TV coverage would be better than ESPN, but sadly it's worse. NHRA was only looking to save $$$ on production cost and could give a rat's *** if the show sucks or not. Corporate money doesn't want to sponsor cars that get 1/2 the airtime of Johnny Bigmouth, or his daughters in fuel classes. Also do we really need to see 4 minutes of fuel cars backing up from burnouts and their boring staging process? The EFI has already priced good teams out of it, and NHRA rushed the class into with no parts and little time to develop them. I think if they let P/S compete on a regional level, where smaller teams could compete, and gain regional corporate interest it would surely grow the class back up. Teams that compete on a regional level would be limited to competing at national events within their region, and 2 or 3 outside of it, and teams that ran for the countdown points would be limited to 2 regional races to keep it fair and prevent heavily funded teams from using regional races as "test" events. There's no quick fix to the problem because NHRA has left the vine withering for decades now, and maybe my ideas are a crock, but I'd like to see the class thrive again. Unfortunately I agree that P/M will move ahead of P/S because the meatheads in the stands like to see aborted passes and crashes, not real geniuses who push the envelope of the internal combustion engine, and chassis to win by the closest margins. I've ranted long enough!

jmcarter 07-10-2016 07:13 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Think the FS1 show last night reflects the direction, 3rd and 4th Q runs of Pro Stock showed about 4 runs total. The bikes even got more exposure. NHRA mismanaged the class so bad it's on the way out.

davidhuff 07-10-2016 10:59 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 508792)
Think the FS1 show last night reflects the direction, 3rd and 4th Q runs of Pro Stock showed about 4 runs total. The bikes even got more exposure. NHRA mismanaged the class so bad it's on the way out.

FS1 and NHRA are doing their part to kill Pro Stock and what a Damn Shame!

Pinballer 07-10-2016 11:39 AM

Re: Interesting Commentary on Pro Stock and Factory Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ok stocker (Post 508734)
The last time I enjoyed Pro Stock was back when you could run different motor combos and all the different body styles that were different wheel bases. The 70's were the golden ages of creativity. Pro Stock is during because of the rules no one has a connection to the cars or respect for the cookie cutter motors. Bring back the variety.


X2, Exactly my thoughts. The time and money it costs to be innovative and gain an edge in Pro Stock is beyond most human's means now, so the class will most likely wither on the vine. Hard work and some creative thinking like the 70's and 80's cars had won't cut it any more because *everybody* does that with their multi-faceted computer design driven racing operations. And if you did happen to gain some kind of advantage of a few hundredths that couldn't be called cheating, there'd probably be a short period of time before spies caught on, or the secret was sold off or leased out to other teams via a "corporate built motor".

I have the same trouble with trying to watch NASCAR races today. It's not that the sport doesn't have some appeal by it's very nature and use of strategy, after all it IS good old American auto racing, but I truly do find them boring. They weren't boring back in the 70's though. The only time anything different happens on track now is when there's a wreck and it shakes up the field. Otherwise they follow each other around lap after lap because the slightest deviation from the draft will cost them dearly.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:12 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.