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Larry Hill 08-27-2016 10:34 PM

What To Do With DNQ FS/XX Cars
 
If they are fast enough put them in the alternate pool based on fartherest under there "softer" index.


Everyone should enjoy the complete Indy experience, the second guessing of themselves, being on the bubble, and one of the best feelings, that only the chosen few know, is making it through teardown.

Ed Fernandez 08-27-2016 11:42 PM

Re: What To Do With DNQ FS/XX Cars
 
If they don't qualify send them home, just like the real stockers who don't make the cut.They can stay and watch the rest of the weekend if they like.

Ed Fernandez 08-28-2016 06:04 PM

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Crickets

FED 387 08-28-2016 06:20 PM

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Yep. Enjoy the trip home

Jim Wahl 08-28-2016 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 512780)
If they don't qualify send them home, just like the real stockers who don't make the cut.They can stay and watch the rest of the weekend if they like.

Absolutely. That's the way the game is played. Jim


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Joseph Teuton 08-28-2016 08:49 PM

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I believe if they sign up for the shootout they have accepted the possibllity of not qualifying for the show therefore they should be out. NHRA should look into a 12 or 16 car field in both X and XX.

Mike Fuller 08-28-2016 09:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joseph teuton (Post 512857)
i believe if they sign up for the shootout they have accepted the possibllity of not qualifying for the show therefore they should be out. Nhra should look into a 12 or 16 car field in both x and xx.

x2

V M Kauffman 08-28-2016 09:24 PM

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Send them home just like if they were the 17th and 18th Qualifer in Pro Stock or Funny Car No different! They wanted to be in the Big Time.

Whalen3186 08-28-2016 11:14 PM

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I couldn't agree more with the previous posts. If they choose to run the shootout, then they should only be eligible for the shootout if they're running against the shootout index.

I continue to think the new cars are great for the class but we need fair and consistent rules for everyone. Maybe all of the traditional classes should get 2 tenths of index back at Indy to even things out during qualifying.

Lyn Smith 08-29-2016 08:41 AM

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Last year at the St Louis LODS, J Hullinger showed me a email that he received stating that the Sportsmen Racing committee had voted not to change anything about how Stock eliminator is run at Indy(as in all run,or FS cars having their own eliminator).So if you would like to see a change at Indy, I suggest you talk to your Division rep.

Brett C 08-29-2016 09:03 AM

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Why not make it a separate "class" in conjunction with stock and have it all run, not to interfere with normal stock eliminator?

Joseph Teuton 08-29-2016 10:04 AM

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Brett, something like a CIC race! I agree it would be nice to see more of this type of racing, I think it should not only be 8 cars with blown and NA cars competing for the same spots. If they did 2 classes and bring it to a 16 car field a lot of issues would be solved, on both ends.

John Kelley 08-29-2016 03:51 PM

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Put them in COMP where they would be more at home !!

Mike Delahanty 08-29-2016 09:30 PM

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What is the assumed destiny for the FS/XX cars that don't make the top 8 this year? Same as last year - where the non-qualifiers "transfer" into Stock?

jmantle 08-29-2016 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Delahanty (Post 512967)
What is the assumed destiny for the FS/XX cars that don't make the top 8 this year? Same as last year - where the non-qualifiers "transfer" into Stock?

I don't think the idea of transferring is fair to those who have travelled miles with "traditional stockers" to try and qualify. If you choose to run the FS shootout and don't qualify, you should have to go home. Not sure that's what the factory guys want to see.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Ed Fernandez 08-30-2016 12:37 AM

Re: What To Do With DNQ FS/XX Cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Delahanty (Post 512967)
What is the assumed destiny for the FS/XX cars that don't make the top 8 this year? Same as last year - where the non-qualifiers "transfer" into Stock?

How many more shots do you want them to have?

Larry Hill 08-30-2016 06:36 AM

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It should be a choice: cake or ice cream, Stock or Factory Shoot Out, but not both.

Barry Polley 08-31-2016 01:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Kelley (Post 512932)
Put them in COMP where they would be more at home !!

Or SS. Dead on!

Carguy49 08-31-2016 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmantle (Post 512968)
I don't think the idea of transferring is fair to those who have travelled miles with "traditional stockers" to try and qualify. If you choose to run the FS shootout and don't qualify, you should have to go home. Not sure that's what the factory guys want to see.

Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

I am with Jim on this one. If they don't qualify, then they go home - or stay and watch.

Or make it a 16 car field - like the PROS.

Greg Hill 08-31-2016 05:30 PM

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Last year it was a 16 car field, 8 blower cars and 8 n/a cars. The final was the winner of each class. The rules have been changed so that the n/a cars are not competitive any more. They all got to race in Stock. Nhra and the manufacturers have screwed this deal up big time. These cars should be featured on Monday at the US Nationals. They should not be able to run in stock at the bogus indexes they have. Every one of these cars has an index in FS that if they want to run in stock eliminator they should have to run on.

ALMACK 09-01-2016 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 513198)
I am with Jim on this one. If they don't qualify, then they go home - or stay and watch.

Or make it a 16 car field - like the PROS.

With 20 cars on the property, they could easily go to a 16 car field.

More excitement for the fans


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