Lack of NHRA support for Sportsman @ INDY
 

Hi,

I went looking for a schedule for the INDY race........

Went to the NHRA website, found INDY, clicked on schedule and guess what......................................

This year INDY doesn't start until Friday September 2, 2016.......

There is no mention of Thursday Qualifying or Friday Stock Class Run-offs..................................

Friday has no mention of Super Stock Class Run-offs..............

You would think that NHRA, as stupid as it is, would promote the Sportsman Racing on Wednesday & Thursday just to make money....

As far as NHRA is concerned we, Stock & Super Stock, don't exist

http://www.nhra.com/schedules/FanSch...=2016&code=II1

Just my thoughts,
Bob

Re: Lack of NHRA support for Sportsman @ INDY
 

And...your point is?

Re: Lack of NHRA support for Sportsman @ INDY
 

c,

I was just looking for a windmill to tilt at...........

Take care,
Bob

Re: Lack of NHRA support for Sportsman @ INDY
 

Try www.nhraracer.com or more specifically http://www.nhra.net/2016/images/NHRA...uleII12016.pdf

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Hi Darrel,

I know what to do find the run schedule and the point that I was trying make is that NHRA refuses to promote Sportsman Racing.....

To the paying fan, and not a racer, we do not exist. How would a paying fan find us at NHRA.com....

Does the paying fan even know that there is Heads-Up class racing at an NHRA race????????????/

We talk about it, but how about NHRA promoting it????

Bob

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I'm with you now. Thanks

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Bobbo O'Mulry,
.... and it's been that way like forever..
30 years ago, I had friends and family watching The Wide World of Sports or whatever the hell it was at that time..They didn't even show my name,...or any other sportsman ,for that matter ..
Of course you knew that.

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NHRA is not going to spend any money, time, or effort to promote sportsman racing. Its small potatoes to them. They only care about the big dollars they can collect from the racer on entry fees and what they can rake in from the spectators for the big show.

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This is not new news, it's always been that way and will continue to be that way and we all still line up like sheep, I go knowing its that way, it's never gonna change as long as we all still go. Sad but true

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Its still the best game in town, IF, you have a competitive combination anymore.

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Personally I always look forward to watching Stock/SuperStock class go down. I think that could be promoted and I think people would really enjoy it if they knew about it.

The rest of the show, how you qualify, dial in, eliminator, etc. people just aren't interested in.

A casual fan will never understand how a 13 second truck is the #1 qualifier when there are 8 second cars in the class. And how that 13 second truck and beat an 8 second car in eliminations.

I'm not knocking it, just giving a bit of a different perspective as someone that didn't grow up around this type of racing. I love it, but I can see why it's not popular.

I've given up trying to explain Comp to my friends and family. I get confused trying to explain it. :)

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NHRA is crapping on the sportsman racers as usual! I went to NHRA.com to check the schedule the last few races. Just look at it! You would never know that sportsman racers were even there! For Indy, all they show is TAD, TA/FC and then the Pros. There is no mention that sportsman racers PROBABLY start at 8 AM. I don;t know. Plus, you would think that the ALL ACCESS would cover the WHOLE race but at least we have the audiocast or so they say. This is such bull****!

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Sign of things to come I guess guys. I noticed today that the IHRA web site is no longer working. There hasn't been a Drag Review Magazine all year. There is absolutely no place you can go anymore to find results for the Sportsman Pro Am races. Hell they don't even email anything any more. At least NHRA still has the National Dragster. As I said, sign of the times I guess. Jim


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Re: Lack of NHRA support for Sportsman @ INDY
 

Official schedule for Indy:

http://www.nhra.com/schedules/AllAccessSchedule.aspx


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Well, if you notice in the URL it says "Fan Schedule" and off to the side it lists "Special Fan Events." I'm guessing 80%+ of the fans are only there to see the loud cars, so I guess it makes sense to cater the schedule to them, doesn't it?

If you look down at the very bottom of the page it has a box you can click on to "View Complete Racer Schedule".

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These days the Labour day US Nationals "Entry List" is online but back in the day it was a program handout. Top Fuel had over 75 entries,Funny Car around 35,Pro Stock had over 60. In 1970 Shirley Muldowney raced in Top Gas(AA/D) eliminator with her dual supercharged small block Chevy's called "Double Trouble". Car count was a little over 1500 entries.I think that if people stopped participating that NHRA would get the idea. Stop buying National Dragster for just one year and they will start asking questions. Doesn't take long to make changes. I use to love going to NHRA events but unfortunately I'm not the one they cater to, it's a clown only show .CR

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I was there racing Super Stock and you never knew when you were going to get a time trial run. You made a pass went back to the staging lanes and waited for your next run. If you had a minor problem with your car you worked on it in the staging lanes.

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What website do you think a spectator who might be about to check out his or her first drag race this weekend go to? Certainly won't be detailed schedule link on nhraracer, it will be nhra.com ticket and info. They do the same on the radio ads too, never any mention of Hardcore Thursday.

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Yep.
90 % of the people who view drag racing on tv are not even aware of any classes other than the 4 pro classes. Not their fault, it's just been drilled into viewers heads since the 80's.

When I try to explain how Stock Eliminator works to people I know I confuse them, even tho I try to put it in the most simplest of terms.

When I explain to inquiring minds at the local tracks what is involved in setting NHRA national records, most end up saying "that's too much work"

My response is: "yes, and that is why very few racers attempt to set records"

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When back of the Diamond P vision,NHRA TODAY and other t v shows ,that exposed the sportsman categories,the fans came to the races with some knowledge ,now days nothing and what is shown is the same crap as the previous event,that does not generate interest.Back in early 80,s i remember we where at indy with a k/sa and a n/sa pair of chevelles wagon and a hardtop,did not qualify for the show after class we went to manufacturers midway and received all kinds of product if we had the decal,,the sportsman racer got respect years ago ,dont see it now

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I'll be there tomorrow, Fri and Sat. Were there any issues with them opening the spectator gates on-time today? Last year and the year before it was supposed to open at 7:30am on Thurs, Fri and Sat - but that seemed to slip a little further and further behind...Want to make sure I'm in a seat by 8:00am to watch Stock tomorrow!

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Although I do agree with the majority of the comments on this thread, I think you guys are all wound up for nothing on this issue, simply scroll to the bottom of the page and click the box which says: View Complete Racer Schedule.

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Hi Jim,

This post isn't about racers or racing, it is about how NHRA views us and presents us to the public.....

Could the average paying customer know that if they attended on Wednesday or Thursday they could see Stock & Super Stock Qualifying, along with Heads-Up Stock Class racing?????????????

If they wanted to watch Heads-Up Super Stock Class racing how would they know it was on Friday?????????????

Just sayin',
Bob

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I'm sure they could watch on those days if they wanted to, but most fans leave the stands after the nitro cars are done. Why would they want to come to the track on a day when the nitro cars aren't running???

Sportsman racing is a participant sport, not a fan sport. If you participate in it, you probably enjoy watching it, if not you probably just want to see and hear the nitro cars.

You think after going to Indy for 20 years or more the fans don't know sportsman runs on Wednesday and Thursday?

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Amazing some 164 Racers came to qualify.
128 made it and the bump was -.726 Under the NHRA Index.

Surprised some racers like Record Holder Briane Philbrick and old(ish) hands Vic Guilmino and Jeff Warren who are always in the thick of it did not qualify.

NHRA must be doing something right that so many cars came to quality.
Yet so many complaints about NHRA.

Old hand Paul Mecure took Pole Position with a fantastic warm weather run of -1.523 under index run.
Followed by V/SA Jim Parsons (-1.435), U/SA Gary Summers (-1.317) and U/SA Brian Seaburg (- 1.281).
Amazing effort by lower class Stockers making it in the top five against the PLETHRA (from Three Amigos) of FS cars.

Dan

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Amazing alright , but you are way off on almost all of your numbers.

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I would have thought the bump would have been .850 or higher.

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It is! LOL!

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Not impressed every one of theses cars ARE BOGUS But I'm partial to carburators and 8 spark plug wires

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I am looking at the qualifying list NOW..

Dan

Re: Lack of NHRA support for Sportsman @ INDY
 

You might want to head to Bizers for some new glasses,

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NO eyes are good.
I got the First Round Qualifying sheet!
See that some of them improved a good bit in Q2 and Q3.
Showing 1.56 under for top qualifier.

BTW when does a Stocker go 8.33 sec in 1/4 mile?
If so what does one of these new Super Stockers do?

Dan

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Good, now we got that ironed out.....