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Daran Summerton 09-27-2016 08:24 PM

Come on NHRA raise the Vegas Stock Quota please
 
100 is easy there.

Darrel Goheen 09-28-2016 12:02 AM

Re: Come on NHRA raise the Vegas Stock Quota please
 
Last year there was 114 entries in stock at the divisional the weekend following the nationals.

SStockDart 09-28-2016 02:17 AM

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It appears the the situation is that they run all of the classes. Of course, the fuel and Pro stock, plus, pro mod, motorcycles, alcohol cars and probably some jets.
They have lights and no curfew that I am aware of?????? No time for 10 more stockers.....

Don Kennedy 09-28-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 515911)
It appears the the situation is that they run all of the classes. Of course, the fuel and Pro stock, plus, pro mod, motorcycles, alcohol cars and probably some jets.
They have lights and no curfew that I am aware of?????? No time for 10 more stockers.....

Me personally I still cannot understand any reason for the Lower entry list at Vegas? can anyone enlighten me with some factual information on why?

Pistol Pete 09-28-2016 12:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 515943)
Me personally I still cannot understand any reason for the Lower entry list at Vegas? can anyone enlighten me with some factual information on why?

Don
I dealt with the same problem back in June for the Englishtown National Race.
They wouldn't add any more Stock or Super Stock Cars even though S/G only
had 45 out of a 65 car quota. And i'm not taking a shot at any S/G people.
It's a shot at NHRA for not allowing any more.
Englishtown like Vegas, i'm sure we can get 100 Stockers Every Year if they allowed it.
And Etown had the Factory Stock Shootout, so that kinda hurts the other stockers because of the car quota.

Charley Downing 09-28-2016 12:41 PM

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You guys all act like this caught you off guard. If you want to run National events then you need to earn 5-6 grading points per year and if your smart enough to enter when these dates come up for your grade you wont be locked out.
Why is this so hard, you all know NHRA could care less about this issue. The word on the street is all national events next year mins INDY are going to be limited to 60 car fields this way all sportsman classes will be 6 round or less, this will help NHRA save on time, staffing and the points issue east coast guys bring up all the time.

Don't worry there are more enhancements coming over the next 4 months.

Don Kennedy 09-28-2016 12:46 PM

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In My opinion NHRA should open up more cars to enter Vegas for the following reason.
1. 100 more cars at say $400 per car is another $40,000. in income
2. 100 more cars means most likely Burton Smith Points race will have more cars at the points meet.
3.The Vegas Track can handle in the pits another 200 cars or more easy.
4. There is class for Stock and Super Stock.
5 There is appx only 30% of cars entered are from div 7.????
6. There will still be the exact same amount of filler rounds for the Pro show on Sunday.
7.NHRA should show a concern about their customers needs now in allowing more entries for if only for their Future.and let more cars in at least 25 more per eliminator equals 100 more cars .
8.make most of their paying customers happy
9. A business should never turn down more paying customers ever cause maybe some day those paying customers will not be back

Don Kennedy 09-28-2016 12:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 515946)
You guys all act like this caught you off guard. If you want to run National events then you need to earn 5-6 grading points per year and if your smart enough to enter when these dates come up for your grade you wont be locked out.
Why is this so hard, you all know NHRA could care less about this issue. The word on the street is all national events next year mins INDY are going to be limited to 60 car fields this way all sportsman classes will be 6 round or less, this will help NHRA save on time, staffing and the points issue east coast guys bring up all the time.

Don't worry there are more enhancements coming over the next 4 months.

Charley You are right
come out West and see how many Points races you can go to within 400 miles one way of where ever you live is one problem.
we don't have very many tracks close together like those racers back east. There are many racers who for some reason beyond their control could not go the 800 mile round trip to get Points,
The racers did not get the memo that the entry list at Vegas was going to be cut big time > Vegas Historically can handle many more cars in the Pits and the important financial deal is the amount of Money Burton Smith is going to loose on the Points race because no one wants to go for one race they want to go to the national event then the points race , I am not 100% sure but i just bet there are at least 60 % less race tracks out here in the west

Mickey Whaley 09-28-2016 01:39 PM

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Entry Event Statistics show how many will be taken and how many are entered at the time,, and when you should get in, if they are going to make exceptions at one race well they better do them all the same way to be fair.

Darrel Goheen 09-28-2016 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 515946)
You guys all act like this caught you off guard. If you want to run National events then you need to earn 5-6 grading points per year and if your smart enough to enter when these dates come up for your grade you wont be locked out.

It took me almost 2 years but I may have learned. I'm entered in Dallas, Vegas and Pomona and don't plan on going to any of them but I'm not going through sweating it out trying to get entered if there is any possibility that I may be able to go. It bothers me that I don't plan on going and took a spot that once quota is met can't be available for someone else. I wish those with provisional entries wouldn't enter until a few days before the deadline to allow for others to enter.

Bobby DiDomenico 09-28-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete (Post 515945)
Don
And Etown had the Factory Stock Shootout, so that kinda hurts the other stockers because of the car quota.

Do you think that ratio would change if they made it where Factory Stock Shootout non qualified cars aren't eligible to then run in the eliminator?

I recall correctly IHRA had it set up where Top Stock cars qualified for 16 spots, so numbers 17 and up would be out.
T/STK cars wanting to run in Stock Eliminator had to be directly entered in Stock class like any other car, there was no cross over.

Greg Reimer 7376 09-28-2016 02:03 PM

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I live here in Glendora,Cal. I hear that word hurled around once in a while here,but I assure you, it's a delightfully nice place to live. It hasn't turned into a third world toilet like so much of So Cal. Here's the point. To acquire grade points, one must travel the following (closest to farthest)
1.Fontana LODRS-30 miles.
2.Vegas LODRS - 250 miles.
3.Phoenix LODRS-375 miles.
4.Infinion LODRS-520 miles.
5. Rocky Mountain Raceway LODRS-1000 miles,approx.
6.Tucson National Open-500 miles.
7.Fontana National Open-30 miles.
8.Sacramento National Open-420 miles.
9.Redding National Open-600 miles.
All these distances are one way. We are a rather far flung division. Which five races do you care to attend in order to go to Pomona (seven miles)twice and Vegas twice? If you have any intentions of pursuing the championship, that adds to the challenge,although winning it would be worth it.I guess we all have to spend our money wisely and, like the rest of life, choose our battles.

Don Kennedy 09-28-2016 02:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 515962)
I live here in Glendora,Cal. I hear that word hurled around once in a while here,but I assure you, it's a delightfully nice place to live. It hasn't turned into a third world toilet like so much of So Cal. Here's the point. To acquire grade points, one must travel the following (closest to farthest)
1.Fontana LODRS-30 miles.
2.Vegas LODRS - 250 miles.
3.Phoenix LODRS-375 miles.
4.Infinion LODRS-520 miles.
5. Rocky Mountain Raceway LODRS-1000 miles,approx.
6.Tucson National Open-500 miles.
7.Fontana National Open-30 miles.
8.Sacramento National Open-420 miles.
9.Redding National Open-600 miles.
All these distances are one way. We are a rather far flung division. Which five races do you care to attend in order to go to Pomona (seven miles)twice and Vegas twice? If you have any intentions of pursuing the championship, that adds to the challenge,although winning it would be worth it.I guess we all have to spend our money wisely and, like the rest of life, choose our battles.

We need for racers to email Mike Rice today to increase the Vegas national event quota.everyone should regardless .his email is mrice@nhra.com

EMMONS MOTORSPORTS 09-28-2016 02:55 PM

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Email sent. Thanks, Don Kennedy.

MR DERBY CITY 09-28-2016 04:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 515949)
In My opinion NHRA should open up more cars to enter Vegas for the following reason.
1. 100 more cars at say $400 per car is another $40,000. in income
2. 100 more cars means most likely Burton Smith Points race will have more cars at the points meet.
3.The Vegas Track can handle in the pits another 200 cars or more easy.
4. There is class for Stock and Super Stock.
5 There is appx only 30% of cars entered are from div 7.????
6. There will still be the exact same amount of filler rounds for the Pro show on Sunday.
7.NHRA should show a concern about their customers needs now in allowing more entries for if only for their Future.and let more cars in at least 25 more per eliminator equals 100 more cars .
8.make most of their paying customers happy
9. A business should never turn down more paying customers ever cause maybe some day those paying customers will not be back

Don, you left this one out........
Numero UNO, Don Kennedy should have gone to one more points race or national open in order to race at VEGAS.....Is your CRUSADE really FAIR to the boys that got shut out at the Maple Grove or E Town races....???

Don Kennedy 09-28-2016 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 515977)
Don, you left this one out........
Numero UNO, Don Kennedy should have gone to one more points race or national open in order to race at VEGAS.....Is your CRUSADE really FAIR to the boys that got shut out at the Maple Grove or E Town races....???

Good point I normally go to enough Points meets to get in but broke a Motor missed the next points meets then had an issue with the motor on the dyno , then I had a major meeting with a huge client of mine after that there were no more points meets to go to within 2000 miles now You know the rest of the story lol
by the way I did not get the memo that the entry quota was going to be less this year than last year ,darn My fault

if only we had more Race tracks out west then just about all racers on the West coast could get in ,instead of only 30% of div 7 racers at the National event this year ,
yes my CRUSADE is fair to the West Coast Racers to race in their Own Division national event,that is why there are events all over the US for the racers in each division to go to

MR DERBY CITY 09-28-2016 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 515989)
Good point I normally go to enough Points meets to get in but broke a Motor missed the next points meets then had an issue with the motor on the dyno , then I had a major meeting with a huge client of mine after that there were no more points meets to go to within 2000 miles now You know the rest of the story lol
by the way I did not get the memo that the entry quota was going to be less this year than last year ,darn My fault

if only we had more Race tracks out west then just about all racers on the West coast could get in ,instead of only 30% of div 7 racers at the National event this year ,
yes my CRUSADE is fair to the West Coast Racers to race in their Own Division national event,that is why there are events all over the US for the racers in each division to go to

OK, you are forgiven. Remember one thing my buddy Bob Gibson (not the former Cardinal pitcher ) told me....CONFESSION ...is good for the soul....LOL.....

Tony Janes 09-28-2016 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 515946)
You guys all act like this caught you off guard. If you want to run National events then you need to earn 5-6 grading points per year and if your smart enough to enter when these dates come up for your grade you wont be locked out.
Why is this so hard, you all know NHRA could care less about this issue. The word on the street is all national events next year mins INDY are going to be limited to 60 car fields this way all sportsman classes will be 6 round or less, this will help NHRA save on time, staffing and the points issue east coast guys bring up all the time.

Don't worry there are more enhancements coming over the next 4 months.

Like a lot more three day events.

GarysZ24 09-28-2016 11:53 PM

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Coming from where I used to live (Denver, Co.), although I still feel D's 1-4 have it the best of the 7 Divisions, I strongly feel D5 has it the worst for long tows to Divisionals. (I'm not counting National Opens, because they don't offer seasonal championship points, or contingency money. I would much rather race out of the Phoenix area, than from Denver which is why I was able to get 5 grade points last year.

Darrel Goheen 09-28-2016 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 516017)
I strongly feel D5 has it the worst for long tows to Divisionals.

I agree with that!

Everett Vassar 09-29-2016 12:45 AM

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We would like to get in the Dallas race,but I doubt it will happen

SStockDart 09-29-2016 01:02 AM

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Try living in El Paso and make all division races...The closest division 4 race is 650 miles and longest is just short of 1,100....one way and never leave the division. That is just one more reason why I moved from El Paso.

Tom P 09-29-2016 01:19 AM

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Div Six gets that too, there are racers in Alaska and northern Saskatchewan... Medford is quite a distance from them.

The Vegas race is as good as we get out west for numbers of Stock and SS, i'd love to see that "all run" or 128 cars with a bunch of alternates.

Darrel Goheen 09-29-2016 01:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 516019)
We would like to get in the Dallas race,but I doubt it will happen

I'm entered in Dallas but most likely not going. Maybe we can make that work out in your favor. I should have a decision made sometime on Monday. I'll let you know.

Everett Vassar 09-29-2016 03:00 AM

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Awesome Darrell. .Thank you

Greg Reimer 7376 09-29-2016 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom P (Post 516022)
Div Six gets that too, there are racers in Alaska and northern Saskatchewan... Medford is quite a distance from them.

The Vegas race is as good as we get out west for numbers of Stock and SS, i'd love to see that "all run" or 128 cars with a bunch of alternates.

Division Six is interesting. If you live in Medford or Grants Pass, the closest points race is Woodburn,then Kent, Washington, one divisional, and the only national meet, then Eastern Washington, and Mission in BC.Sounds like a lot of towing for them. From Southern Oregon, the closest national open is Redding, div.7. Sounds like the travel situation is pretty common everywhere you look. There's got to be a way to have more opportunities to earn grade points without killing the race budget.I visited my brother nine years ago in Eagle River,Alaska, and drove up to Palmer and looked at Alaska Raceway Park. It's a bit rustic out there, but it looked like a nice place to race. The view from the starting line of that big mountain a mile or two south of the track was awesome. Most scenic view from a driver's seat I ever saw.Talk about a tow from here!

Dale Hulquist 09-29-2016 09:53 AM

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If anyone is planning on withdrawing from Ennis Nat'l I would really like to race stock there, Ken and I just finished the stocker motor last night . Thx

B Aceves 09-29-2016 12:06 PM

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MR DERBY CITY 10-07-2016 12:21 AM

Re: Come on NHRA raise the Vegas Stock Quota please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Everett Vassar (Post 516019)
We would like to get in the Dallas race,but I doubt it will happen

It appears as though they raised the quota on Thursday to 75.....for the Dallas race...perhaps they will do this for Vegas also ??

Everett Vassar 10-07-2016 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 516846)
It appears as though they raised the quota on Thursday to 75.....for the Dallas race...perhaps they will do this for Vegas also ??

Yeah it happened so fast we didn't even have time to react.been checking every day to see what's happening, then bam! 75 and full again! For some reason S/Stock is struggling to make quota.

Daran Summerton 10-07-2016 11:08 AM

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Come on NHRA 100 for stock :)

Don Kennedy 10-07-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 516876)
Come on NHRA 100 for stock :)

The Quota at Vegas needs to be raised 25 more per eliminator which would be only 100 more cars and at Vegas the pits are great and more important The Vegas Points meet would have more entries for Jeff Foster as the track manager would be happy.:)

Don Kennedy 10-07-2016 11:42 AM

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Ok since no one is listening I would like all my friends to send to glight@nhra.com the following .

Please raise the Quota for the Vegas National Event

Thanks .

NHRA customers should be heard tell all your friends to send emails to My Good friend Graham Light he has the power :D

Peter Clifford is our next email campaign for emails we have Started from Mike Rice to Graham Light ,then Peter Clifford

Jeff Teuton 10-07-2016 12:37 PM

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Don, you are right. That decision comes from the top. They expanded Dallas after a nice email or two asking. I think they have a policy if you are a player for the top 10, you can get in usually. Posting here or complaining here don't do much.

Darrel Goheen 10-07-2016 12:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 516890)
I think they have a policy if you are a player for the top 10, you can get in usually.

If you have a chance to finish in top ten they guarantee you entry in any of the last 4 events. I got into Pomona last year with this provisional.


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