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Camarob859 10-10-2016 07:18 PM

69 Camaro Weight
 
Have a G/SA 69 Camaro need help losing weight off the nose while staying "legal". Currently car weighs 3255 my minimum weight is 3250 the problem is my weight is 54.76% on the nose, to make it 50/50 id have to add 310 lbs to the trunk!!!!

j gardiner 10-10-2016 07:43 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
If you don't already have it, aluminum radiator, aftermarket front disc brakes.

Camarob859 10-10-2016 09:00 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
I've got aluminum radiator, wilwood brakes I was thinking of maybe getting an aluminum water pump,aluminum brake master cylinder

PozQB14 10-11-2016 11:31 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
lighter battery? can switch to a braille, could save 20lbs there over an optima for example. Wildwoods will help out a lot for sure. do you still run the stock master cylinder? We just installed the mopar style master cylinder, not a huge weight saver but every little bit helps.

Bobby DiDomenico 10-11-2016 12:01 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Do any of the aftermarket sub frames weigh substantially less than factory piece?
Are these prime pieces for the acid tank without sacrificing strength?

Jim Kaekel 10-11-2016 12:13 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
I think a lot of the aftermarket pieces are lighter, bumpers, fenders, etc. Unfortunately, I think the how much weight you want to lose is equivalent to "how much money do you want to spend".

jimmyparker 10-11-2016 12:35 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
You may not need to get all the way to 50-50, most cars that I have worked on do well with 52% or so on the front.


The '67 six cylinder sub frames were sought after at one time as they were supposedly 20lbs light than the V-8 frame, I never weighed them to verify. They are easily identified due to not having the large holes on the inside near the bumper brackets.

Tom Goldman 10-11-2016 01:04 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Aftermarket front sheet metal is substantially lighter than stock ,as it the radiator support . ...Add the lighter pump,battery and master cyl and you have a substantial savings in weight ,but not your wallet.
Aluminum seats can save as much as 70 pounds and offer more safety.
As Jimmy said 50/50 really isn't necessary , I regularly have to twist arms to put weight back on the front of Stock and S/S cars

Run to Rund 10-12-2016 10:36 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
The narrow master cylinder weighs 6 lb. so the most you could save is 4 lb--if you can find an aluminum version of it (or are willing to use the aluminum/plastic type). The fatter master cylinder is available in aluminum from SS brakes, but it weighs about 4 lb and takes more fluid than the narrow style.

Use bolts just long enough, and if you are very industrious, I know of a 1970s racer who cut apart the front subframe, removed the overlap, and re-welded it together.

Tom Goldman 10-12-2016 12:35 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
I've taken apart more than one old Stocker with all the non suspension bolts replaced with aluminum ones .
It's all the little 1,2,5 pound items that add up .
I ground 15 pounds off the back side of my AMX front bumper and mounts. mounted it with tubular bolts from the Sprint car guys up the road.

Mike Pearson 10-12-2016 03:16 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Racing seats can save quite a bit. Lithium battery will save at least 40 lbs on the nose of a stocker.

Jim Hawkins 10-14-2016 01:30 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyparker (Post 517328)
You may not need to get all the way to 50-50, most cars that I have worked on do well with 52% or so on the front.


The '67 six cylinder sub frames were sought after at one time as they were supposedly 20lbs light than the V-8 frame, I never weighed them to verify. They are easily identified due to not having the large holes on the inside near the bumper brackets.

I have 2 67's and one has the large holes in the subframe and one does not. The early car does not have them and they are both original V8 cars. I was told this was done midway in the 67 production for bumper bracket access.

Dwight Southerland 10-14-2016 05:28 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
The '67 subframe legend was started to cover up some chemically milled parts. If the aura of "unique" parts is attached to some identifying factor, people tend to not look at other possibilities. Hence, the '67 6 cylinder subframes, the 520 "T" heads, etc.

J&S Racing 10-14-2016 06:23 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Is there anybody still chemical milling parts??

James Perrone 10-14-2016 06:35 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Once you have changed out brakes battery and other bolt in components you need to search in every where in the car and remove any little thing . A pound here and there adds up not easy but I can get my nova to the Fsa minimum 200 lb driver. Every little bit counts.

boxmotorsports 02-07-2017 03:49 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
I know this is an old post . As James mentioned , its surprising what things weigh... I had Moroso chrome valve covers and the fancy steel hold downs, the covers alone where over 9 pounds each .

Painter 02-07-2017 04:37 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
James, I need a little ballast to E weght with a 295 motor with my 225 but in the seat. If people cant get their car to minimum they havnt worked and cleaned hard enough.

Chipper Chapman 02-07-2017 09:24 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Weight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarob859 (Post 517264)
Have a G/SA 69 Camaro need help losing weight off the nose while staying "legal". Currently car weighs 3255 my minimum weight is 3250 the problem is my weight is 54.76% on the nose, to make it 50/50 id have to add 310 lbs to the trunk!!!!

You don't need to ad 310, you need to move 75-100 to get where you want, maybe even less if its in the right spots


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