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Daran Summerton 10-20-2016 12:45 PM
Grade 4 lives matter
 
Come on!

Charley Downing 10-20-2016 03:07 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Should of had 5

Mickey Whaley 10-20-2016 03:59 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Just tell them to up the quota they have been doing it at other races

Ron Ortiz 10-20-2016 04:59 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
So what you are saying is that Grade 1 lives don't matter.

Hey Mickey, how about you contacting them about raising the payouts, you have a lot of pull.

Charlie, can you loan me a couple of Grade points, you got a slew of them.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA why don't they just charge for Grade points.

Ed Wright 10-20-2016 05:26 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Makes you think" I should have entered more points races", doesn't it?

Bob Smith 10-20-2016 05:37 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
I just wish NHRA would have told the racers back in January what the quotas would be for each national race so that everyone could have planned ahead...

MR DERBY CITY 10-20-2016 06:00 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Smith (Post 518082)
I just wish NHRA would have told the racers back in January what the quotas would be for each national race so that everyone could have planned ahead...
They did.....Event entry statistics,,,,

Tom Moock 10-20-2016 06:18 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Daran, just enter your car with pro racer name as owner and you can enter any race, when ever you want to LOL. Tom

Bob Smith 10-20-2016 06:20 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Thank u Mr Derby City. So every racer wanting to actually run a national event has then known about the numbers since January?! Wow

voltdr 10-20-2016 06:32 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Smith (Post 518087)
Thank u Mr Derby City. So every racer wanting to actually run a national event has then known about the numbers since January?! Wow
Yes

Mickey Whaley 10-20-2016 07:10 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 518079)
So what you are saying is that Grade 1 lives don't matter.

Hey Mickey, how about you contacting them about raising the payouts, you have a lot of pull.

Charlie, can you loan me a couple of Grade points, you got a slew of them.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA why don't they just charge for Grade points.
I just want some beef jerky Dee almost got in

Whalen3186 10-20-2016 07:16 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Charlie Bob said he would auction off 1 of his grade points. All proceeds will go to Dee's 'Clutch Guys Matter' campaign.

Auction time will be 8am American time tomorrow.

Mickey Whaley 10-20-2016 07:20 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whalen3186 (Post 518091)
Charlie Bob said he would auction off 1 of his grade points. All proceeds will go to Dee's 'Clutch Guys Matter' campaign.

Auction time will be 8am American time tomorrow.
LOL do we have to weigh in

MR DERBY CITY 10-20-2016 07:21 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
All Charley Bob wants is.......Make America Great Again....

Charley Downing 10-21-2016 10:26 AM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Ron if NHRA will let me, I will give 2 of my grade points.

You guys need to quit whining about not getting in to Vegas or Pomona. You sound like a bunch of entitled whiny millennial's
The quota has been 75 for 10 months now.
life is not far and we all can't get a trophy. Buck up get 5 grading points for 2017 and learn from your mistakes. There's a reason C Bob and others have 6-8 grade points per year and its because we like to race and don't like getting locked out of a events we want to run. Sorry guys Bernie Sanders lost a few months ago.

Make American Great Again
Less Whining, more foot to *****

Andys dad 10-21-2016 10:46 AM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
How about unlimited entries but only allow the quota to qualify.


LMAO

Ron

Don Kennedy 10-21-2016 10:51 AM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
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Mike Carr 10-21-2016 11:31 AM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Charley is 100% correct. The world learned of the adjusted (lower) quotas on December 18, 2015. So everyone knew in 2016 that if they were locked out of certain National Events, to be prepared (meaning, have the required grade points) to gain entry to a national in 2017.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...517&zoneid=175

jmcarter 10-21-2016 11:38 AM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
'Occasionally' I agree with Charley Bob...year after year Vegas and Pomona are filled up early and yet people fail to plan ahead in order to compete there. If you don't want to travel for Divisionals and Opens I get that but then you need to be satisfied with Combos and Brackets....

Don Kennedy 10-21-2016 11:46 AM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
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Charley Downing 10-21-2016 12:21 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
I will be out west for pomona and vegas
And I have driven 1200 miles for a grade point before.
No whining
Can't you get 3 grade points at Las Vegas alone
Open and 2 points meets
Double in Utah . 5 grade points in 4 weekends

Daran Summerton 10-21-2016 12:28 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
It is financial discrimination. One look around the pits and I easily see it. But we enjoy beating the 100K 8 second mustangs soo much we keep coming back :) Can't imagine what it must be like to just pull up to the diesel pump with a unlimited business credit card.

Each grading point is roughly $1000
To get into Pomona it will cost $6000 plus $330 (with special insurance)

Don Kennedy 10-21-2016 12:31 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
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Bob Mulry 10-21-2016 12:55 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
The best part is that next year when they lower the quota again it might take 12 grade points to get in.............................

Because having 5 grade points is not a guarantee of entry because it depends or who enters and what the quota is............

I guess that nobody has heard of the "slippery slope"??????????????

I have 2 tracks (Bakersfield & Sacramento) about 150 miles from my house (closest tracks) but NHRA can't seem to reach an agreement to race at their own tracks????????????????

I have been asking about a five year plan for about fifteen years and NHRA won't or can't tell us what the future looks like.....

Bob

Charley Downing 10-21-2016 01:00 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Guys stk and ss are not for everybody. Your local tracks have bracket 1 and 2 if time and money is the issue.

Whalen3186 10-21-2016 01:44 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 518134)
Of course we can but like I said some racers had issues "beyond their control" that effects why they did not get enough points races and I won't go to these reasons a Person will will have to think about this .

I appreciate you all racers coming out West we need the economic hit with Your Money $$$$$ come on out Bring Your expense money lol Bring Gambling money also you will win big here of course ?
The "beyond your control" issue should be taken care of with the provision for hardship cases that is clearly stated under the grade point policy. I'm guessing this doesn't cover lack of time, lack of money or broken parts.

I race as much as my time and money allow and have the spares that I can afford to try eliminate the broken parts scenario.

Don Kennedy 10-21-2016 01:48 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whalen3186 (Post 518139)
The "beyond your control" issue should be taken care of with the provision for hardship cases that is clearly stated under the grade point policy. I'm guessing this doesn't cover lack of time, lack of money or broken parts.

I race as much as my time and money allow and have the spares that I can afford to try eliminate the broken parts scenario.
I agree

cmracing 10-21-2016 02:22 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 518133)
It is financial discrimination. One look around the pits and I easily see it. But we enjoy beating the 100K 8 second mustangs soo much we keep coming back :) Can't imagine what it must be like to just pull up to the diesel pump with a unlimited business credit card.

Each grading point is roughly $1000
To get into Pomona it will cost $6000 plus $330 (with special insurance)
Is it really worth it?

This is nationwide. People are spending $4k to $6k to enter a National Event, for what? A chance at a Wally? A week of being filler for the Pro's? Getting your schedule moved-around as the NHRA sees fit?

Gluttons for punishment I guess.....

Past champs, no problem, no grade points needed, just enter, I can't blame them if the event is local.

Ed Wright 10-21-2016 02:37 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 518120)
Ron if NHRA will let me, I will give 2 of my grade points.

You guys need to quit whining about not getting in to Vegas or Pomona. You sound like a bunch of entitled whiny millennial's
The quota has been 75 for 10 months now.
life is not far and we all can't get a trophy. Buck up get 5 grading points for 2017 and learn from your mistakes. There's a reason C Bob and others have 6-8 grade points per year and its because we like to race and don't like getting locked out of a events we want to run. Sorry guys Bernie Sanders lost a few months ago.

Make American Great Again
Less Whining, more foot to *****
^^^^^^^There ya go!!

HR9121 10-21-2016 03:46 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmracing (Post 518142)
Is it really worth it?

This is nationwide. People are spending $4k to $6k to enter a National Event, for what? A chance at a Wally? A week of being filler for the Pro's? Getting your schedule moved-around as the NHRA sees fit?

Gluttons for punishment I guess.....

Past champs, no problem, no grade points needed, just enter, I can't blame them if the event is local.
It's worth every penny if that's what I want to do with my money! And if it's one of the races my wife likes to go to its cost me around 3k, she has select races she likes because of their proximity to various outlets.

Charley Downing 10-21-2016 03:53 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
$1000 per PTS meet, come on that's a little much Daran. I bet if you tried you could cut that number down to $700 easy.

MR DERBY CITY 10-21-2016 04:00 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 518133)
It is financial discrimination. One look around the pits and I easily see it. But we enjoy beating the 100K 8 second mustangs soo much we keep coming back :) Can't imagine what it must be like to just pull up to the diesel pump with a unlimited business credit card.

Each grading point is roughly $1000
To get into Pomona it will cost $6000 plus $330 (with special insurance)
Should have stayed in Florida, more BANG for the BUCK.....less FRUITS and NUTS.....

Daran Summerton 10-21-2016 04:12 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
We are aggressively trying to get back east to run bracket 2 😁

Don Kennedy 10-21-2016 04:12 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
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Charley Downing 10-21-2016 05:01 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Ok Don
see you in Vegas

Andys dad 10-21-2016 05:07 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 518152)
$1000 per PTS meet, come on that's a little much Daran. I bet if you tried you could cut that number down to $700 easy.
I think it is more like $1300 to $1500 for races within 500 miles.

I guess I need a new calculator

I don't count tires or winter rebuilds


Ron

James Perrone 10-21-2016 05:34 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
We are drag racers. Money is overrated. Why keep track

Charley Downing 10-21-2016 05:39 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
What are you guys spending so much money on at pts meets
$160 to enter
$250 tow fuel
$200 hotel if you need it
$100 race fuel
$50 for food but your eating no matter what your doing

What else are you guys spending money on at these races

Don Kennedy 10-21-2016 05:47 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
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Daran Summerton 10-21-2016 05:49 PM
Re: Grade 4 lives matter
 
I am willing to spend $4330 to enter the Toyota nationals and guess what?

That ain't gonna get it!!!!




Charlie your not helping my quota increase cause :)


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