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vic guilmino 12-11-2016 03:41 PM

helmet
 
where can i buy a helmet cheap????

Bob Don 12-11-2016 03:42 PM

Re: helmet
 
Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191886616492...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

$149 w/free shipping for a Snell2015 open helmet

jmcarter 12-11-2016 04:28 PM

Re: helmet
 
Amazon is your friend...GForce full face helmets with SA2010 or even SA2015 rating are less than $200...M2015 are cheaper. My GForce has a large opening which makes glasses easier. Ever since Ken Etter's accident at Fontana years ago I won't use open face but that's just me.

Search Amazon for helmet with whatever rating you're comfortable with.

Rory McNeil 12-11-2016 04:33 PM

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I can`t recall seeing them advertise recently, but I bought my last helmet, a Pyrotech SA2010) from Helmet City in California. Good customer service, good prices and selection, quick shipping. I would use them again.

Ed Fernandez 12-11-2016 11:30 PM

Re: helmet
 
Hey Grandpa, reach into the mattress and grab a handful. You only have one noggin, protect it as as well as you can.

Sean Marconette 12-11-2016 11:56 PM

Re: helmet
 
Why not buy american made and buy Impact, or RJS? See if any of the others state where they are made. That goes for Bell, Simpson, and GForce. Impact is made in Indy, and RJS is made in Michigan.

Larry Hill 12-12-2016 08:49 AM

Re: helmet
 
Thanks Sean

Bobby DiDomenico 12-12-2016 09:41 AM

Re: helmet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 522078)
Amazon is your friend...GForce full face helmets with SA2010 or even SA2015 rating are less than $200...M2015 are cheaper. My GForce has a large opening which makes glasses easier. Ever since Ken Etter's accident at Fontana years ago I won't use open face but that's just me.

Search Amazon for helmet with whatever rating you're comfortable with.

Ken, we had some interesting discussions about full face helmets at the show. My current helmet is open face. Had always had full face ones prior, including motorcycle helmets, and will be going with a full face one again. I just never felt comfortable with the open front. There are a lot of variations in full face openings view wise, with many having such small openings they wouldn't be street legal. Yes two helmets is expensive, until you see a brain injury recovery.

Found this study interesting, even though it is of motorcycle riders.
http://www.motorbiketimes.com/feature/gear/helmets/study-open-face-helmets-offer-as-much-protection-as-no-helmet-$21383483.htm

Ron Ortiz 12-12-2016 11:09 AM

Re: helmet
 
Vic, go to a motorcycle dealer, they have a full array of them, plus you can get the best fit instead of relying on a mail order size.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA can also be used as vase.

Adger Smith 12-12-2016 01:06 PM

Re: helmet
 
In an accident I had in 1999 I had a closed face with the big opening for my glasses. A piece of guard rail wooden post still got inside and damaged my face and eye. I won't even consider an open faced.

Hacksaw 12-12-2016 01:13 PM

Re: helmet
 
Maybe a helmet dealer or tech guy can confirm this but it's my understanding that a M rating is constructed differently than a S rated one. The difference is a M hat is designed to protect a one hard hit, ie fly off your scooter and slam the pavement while the S hat can protect multiple hits ie slapping the inside of your roll cage when barrel rolling thru the lights.

jmcarter 12-12-2016 01:49 PM

Re: helmet
 
Hacksaw, no helmet is built to take multiple hits. And no matter the construction five years is recommended as the replacement interval. The SA rating affords fire retardant materials and my experience is the nomex or similar interior fabric is softer...kinda like sleeping on high count sheets vs Walmart brand..to each his own.

Lenny5160 12-12-2016 01:52 PM

Re: helmet
 
I love my HJC CL-17 helmet. Very comfortable and very affordable. I wouldn't trade it straight-up for my brother's far more expensive Simpson Bandit.

Jeg's site still has them at Snell 2010, but Summit lists them as Snell 2015.

Hacksaw 12-12-2016 02:24 PM

Re: helmet
 
Checked the Snell website. A rating of SA does have fire protection in the liner, a smaller opening and must pass a roll bar impact test.

Bobby DiDomenico 12-12-2016 03:10 PM

Re: helmet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 522149)
Maybe a helmet dealer or tech guy can confirm this but it's my understanding that a M rating is constructed differently than a S rated one. The difference is a M hat is designed to protect a one hard hit, ie fly off your scooter and slam the pavement while the S hat can protect multiple hits ie slapping the inside of your roll cage when barrel rolling thru the lights.

That is my understanding, the M is not designed for repeated roll bar contacts.

Greenlight 12-12-2016 05:34 PM

Re: helmet
 
M rated helmets have a larger peripheral vision.

http://www.smf.org/helmetfaq#aSAMKdiff

What are the differences between the SA, M and K standards?

The SA standard was designed for competitive auto racing while the M standard was for motorcycling and other motorsports. The K standard was released to accommodate helmets used in karting. There are three major differences between them:

The SA standard requires flammability test while the M and K standards do not.

The SA and K standards allow for a narrower visual field than the M standard (Some SA and K certified helmets may not be street legal).

The SA and K standards include a rollbar multi-impact test while the M standard does not.

jmcarter 12-12-2016 05:56 PM

Re: helmet
 
Think you guys are misinterpreting the cert tests...just because a SA helmet is tested for impacts which you cannot measure doesn't mean it will be free of damage and able to sustain subsequent impacts. But everybody has to make the call to their satisfaction, just pointing out a SA helmet is an added safety measure but doesn't offer any guarantees.

Hacksaw 12-12-2016 08:26 PM

Re: helmet
 
A helmet with SA rating must pass a roll bar impact test. Helmet with M rating does not need to meet this requirement. They may be made by the same company, same construction or MAYBE NOT. Why take the chance, unless your one of those racers that leaves first and spins his head around like Linda Blair at the 300' mark and having a larger view window is more important than your brain being scrambled. Also note that any impact, like dropping your helmet on the ground can damage the crushing properties of the inner liner. Manufacturers recommend you return it for checking/repair or replace it.

ron b 12-12-2016 08:31 PM

impact 1320
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Marconette (Post 522120)
Why not buy american made and buy Impact, or RJS? See if any of the others state where they are made. That goes for Bell, Simpson, and GForce. Impact is made in Indy, and RJS is made in Michigan.

I have been trying to buy a impact 1320 large in white for 6 months, they keep pushing the build date ahead.

cmracing 12-12-2016 10:29 PM

Re: helmet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 522148)
In an accident I had in 1999 I had a closed face with the big opening for my glasses. A piece of guard rail wooden post still got inside and damaged my face and eye. I won't even consider an open faced.

I never ran at a track that didn't have full metal guard rails at a minimum (US-13). All the tracks I run at have the Jersey Barriers. I'll stick with them. I'm not relying on my helmet to protect me from inferior race tracks, too many good ones around here to take a chance.

Sean Marconette 12-12-2016 11:55 PM

Re: impact 1320
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ron b (Post 522185)
I have been trying to buy a impact 1320 large in white for 6 months, they keep pushing the build date ahead.

Have you looked at Jegs? It shows ship date would be January 5th 2017 if ordered today. That's a white large 1320. I did see that they have a longer lead time. RJS are in stock thru Jegs.

My Impact full face expires this year so I have been doing some research on helmets. I think spending money on the safety item that makes you function on a daily basis is worth a few hundred dollars.

ron b 12-13-2016 12:12 AM

Re: impact 1320
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Marconette (Post 522206)
Have you looked at Jegs? It shows ship date would be January 5th 2017 if ordered today. That's a white large 1320. I did see that they have a longer lead time. RJS are in stock thru Jegs.

My Impact full face expires this year so I have been doing some research on helmets. I think spending money on the safety item that makes you function on a daily basis is worth a few hundred dollars.

I would really like the impact but cant wait another season, the rjs wed site says they are made at the same factory as bell. I wanted a bell helmet because they are local to me, but I have seen that they are made offshore. so I don't really know which way to go. If I can confirm the rjs is us made, I will go that route.

Ed Wright 12-13-2016 08:29 AM

Re: helmet
 
I hate to have to ask this, but I have no rule book to look at. How long can we use an SA2010 helmet?
Thanks.

Bob Don 12-13-2016 08:39 AM

Re: helmet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ed wright (Post 522218)
i hate to have to ask this, but i have no rule book to look at. How long can we use an sa2010 helmet?
Thanks.

1/1/2022

jmcarter 12-13-2016 09:41 AM

Re: helmet
 
If US made with SA rating that will carry you till 2022 then this is about the best you'll find...if your noggin is medium....

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/IMPACT...ET,238866.html

Have used Speedway several times with success....they have Impact helmets in larger sizes as well.

HandOverFist 12-13-2016 10:45 AM

Re: helmet
 
http://pyrotectstore.com/product-category/helmets/

Ed Wright 12-13-2016 03:47 PM

Re: helmet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Don (Post 522219)
1/1/2022

Thank you!

thomas sheehan 12-13-2016 07:24 PM

Re: helmet
 
I realize many manufacturers that used to post contingency payouts have stopped this practice, BUT.... this year with the 2005 helmets expiring, it would be "perfect timing" to post early (now-before Christmas) that they are paying contingency in 2017..... seems like a no-brainer!

SSGN 12-13-2016 07:58 PM

Re: helmet
 
I buy Simpson Helmets and have been very pleased. I am not sure about contingency but they are one of the last companies to still be on the Manufacture Midway and support racers. Good people to deal with.

http://simpsonraceproducts.com/

Jeff Stout 12-14-2016 03:33 PM

Re: helmet
 
Any one find a good price on full face sa2010. 6 years from now and Ill probably be done racing. I have found Zamp for 149.00

Ron Ortiz 12-14-2016 03:46 PM

Re: helmet
 
I'm telling you guys, if you want the right fit, and a helmet that meets all the requirements, and the best price, check out motorcycle dealers in your home town.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA if it has brains, protect them.

Signman 12-14-2016 04:26 PM

Re: helmet
 
If you want the best look at Shoi and Arai the cost is commensurate with the quality. You'll need to open your wallet.

Otherwise would recommend buying from those who support us at the track: JKR 443-506-0228 Jeff Kundratic

John Dinkel 12-14-2016 06:26 PM

Re: helmet
 
I agree with Ron. The Harley Dealer has plenty of helmets. That's where I have got mine for years.

cmracing 12-14-2016 08:58 PM

Re: helmet
 
I think the helmet manufactures were caught with their pants down!

They knew darn well that there would be a HUGE demand for the 2017 racing season with all the Snell SA2005 helmets done at the end of the 2016 season.

I ordered a helmet for my wife, the next day it got cancelled, they had no inventory left on the shelf! I did finally find her one, but there is not a lot to chose from right now and many places are showing shipping in March of 2017........

1752supgas 12-14-2016 11:02 PM

Re: helmet
 
Biondo , they support this site , ordered 2 Simpson 2015 bandits last week , on my step 2 days later . Probably the last helmet I will need . Jim Fordyce

Mike Pearson 12-16-2016 12:48 PM

Re: helmet
 
I just bought a nice HJC full coverage helmet Snell 2015 at the local bile shop. They had plenty of choices and stock.

Dyno 12-16-2016 01:27 PM

Re: helmet
 
Ordered a HJC from Jegs, in stock, $135.00. My 2005 helmet was a HJC, good helmet for the price, plus you can see out of it. Merry Christmas everyone! Dyno

jmcarter 12-16-2016 03:11 PM

Re: helmet
 
Just a tip, you can buy a M2010 helmet from RevZilla for less than $90 and free shipping. I do a lot of motorcycling (last year including Alaska which is a dream ride BTW) and RevZilla is hands down the best mail order place I've ever dealt with for buying any kind of riding gear or bike parts. Unfortunately they don't carry SA rated helmets but they do have manufacturers like Bell who are BIG in motorsports of all kinds and paid contingency last year at the Divisional level anyway (not sure what their contingency reqmts are).

Grey Ghost 12-17-2016 09:45 AM

Re: helmet
 
I've been looking for one myself. Seems many of the SA certification helments have provisions for HANS neck collars and the M certs do not.


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