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kmawhee 01-30-2017 11:50 PM

another crazy idea for NHRA
 
Would anyone be more interested if NHRA allowed more cars to enter but lowered qualified field from 128 to 64? More cars could enter, a set number of cars would race into the weekend.

I haven't been doing this very long and I'm sure there are lots of holes in my idea ...

Andys dad 01-31-2017 09:49 AM

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No issue -


Ron

Jason 01-31-2017 10:54 AM

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The reason the number of cars allowed to enter is limited per event is because of pit space. There was a time when over a thousand cars entered The Nationals at Indianapolis. Back then racers either drove their race cars to the track, tow barred their race cars or pulled them on an open trailer. Today the pits are full because of gigantic motor homes pulling tri-axle trailers and thats just for the Sportsman racers. The Pro pits with their multiple tractor trailer rigs per team take up what used to be shared with Sportsman racers. Limiting the number of race cars per event was the only answer to lack of pit space caused by huge rigs.

Ed Wright 01-31-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kmawhee (Post 525505)
Would anyone be more interested if NHRA allowed more cars to enter but lowered qualified field from 128 to 64? More cars could enter, a set number of cars would race into the weekend.

I haven't been doing this very long and I'm sure there are lots of holes in my idea ...

That would probably help some soft combos get some hp, but pit space due to the big rigs is something to think about. Would be fun.

117X 01-31-2017 11:24 AM

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That would pretty much eliminate me from competing in stock as I don't have the budget to qualify well; but please don't take that as a complaint. I enjoy being able to compete in the handicap format but I guess it really comes down to what is best for the class and the majority of the racers. At that point why not just run it like comp eliminator and be done with it? We work hard to get the car to run under the index enough to compete but would end up going to events to make qualifying runs and leave. I think car counts would drop like a hot rock. It's no ones fault but my own that I don't have the resources to qualify better, so off I go to the bracket races for a couple seasons until I can make my stock combination competitive.

Mark Yacavone 01-31-2017 11:38 AM

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Pit space was not an issue at the Fall Vegas event .The place was like a ghost town, under the new mean , lean NHRA.

Casey Miles 01-31-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 525526)
The reason the number of cars allowed to enter is limited per event is because of pit space. There was a time when over a thousand cars entered The Nationals at Indianapolis. Back then racers either drove their race cars to the track, tow barred their race cars or pulled them on an open trailer. Today the pits are full because of gigantic motor homes pulling tri-axle trailers and thats just for the Sportsman racers. The Pro pits with their multiple tractor trailer rigs per team take up what used to be shared with Sportsman racers. Limiting the number of race cars per event was the only answer to lack of pit space caused by huge rigs.

NHRA should put a tariff on any rig over 60' since that's what they are saying cutting car counts. Or, just drop the trailer and put the motor homes out of the pit area. Let's get back to racing with car counts.
This should start a fire storm, lol!
Casey Miles
248H

Ok stocker 01-31-2017 12:03 PM

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Why not take in part of the spectator parking area to put racers in. They make more money from a racer than an average spectator.

Mickey Whaley 01-31-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kmawhee (Post 525505)
Would anyone be more interested if NHRA allowed more cars to enter but lowered qualified field from 128 to 64? More cars could enter, a set number of cars would race into the weekend.

I haven't been doing this very long and I'm sure there are lots of holes in my idea ...

What is your name and what class do you race

dartman 01-31-2017 01:32 PM

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I think they should alternate one class year to year and upping the quota in other.every four years you miss a race.no big deal.

Hagen Gary 01-31-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 525534)
What is your name and what class do you race

Maybe one of these guys....

Lenny5160 01-31-2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dartman (Post 525538)
I think they should alternate one class year to year and upping the quota in other.every four years you miss a race.no big deal.

Isn't that basically how it worked for years, before the quota system went in?

Ed Carpenter 01-31-2017 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hagen Gary (Post 525539)
Maybe one of these guys....

Yep and these cars are fast!

Ed Wright 01-31-2017 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 525568)
Yep and these cars are fast!

Good guys!

Ed Carpenter 01-31-2017 06:43 PM

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I know a few guys that have 80' and 90' rigs. I know because since I'm a State Trooper I was ask could I get in trouble for being 90' in Texas? really ya think??/?

kmawhee 01-31-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 525534)
What is your name and what class do you race

My name is Korey Mawhee. I've race in Stock and Super Stock with my brother and father for a while.

I don't post here very often, I check in every once in a while. I'll try to update my profile to include a signature.

Ed Wright 01-31-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 525570)
I know a few guys that have 80' and 90' rigs. I know because since I'm a State Trooper I was ask could I get in trouble for being 90' in Texas? really ya think??/?

Is Texas still limited to 65'? I'm 68', and hold my breath every time I see a trooper.

Mickey Whaley 01-31-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kmawhee (Post 525575)
My name is Korey Mawhee. I've race in Stock and Super Stock with my brother and father for a while.

I don't post here very often, I check in every once in a while. I'll try to update my profile to include a signature.

No signature required just asking

Allen Sherman 01-31-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 525570)
I know a few guys that have 80' and 90' rigs. I know because since I'm a State Trooper I was ask could I get in trouble for being 90' in Texas? really ya think??/?

I didn't say I was 90' Ed...lol

nhrasa 02-01-2017 12:38 AM

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If you attend the Winternationals, you will see the sportsman pits have enough parking to accommodate several more rigs and cars. And with the sportsman only time trials on Thursday, the fields could run several more cars during time trials.

Dave Muller 02-01-2017 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 525531)
NHRA should put a tariff on any rig over 60' since that's what they are saying cutting car counts. Or, just drop the trailer and put the motor homes out of the pit area. Let's get back to racing with car counts.
This should start a fire storm, lol!
Casey Miles
248H

I would love it!

Mike Pearson 02-01-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 525531)
NHRA should put a tariff on any rig over 60' since that's what they are saying cutting car counts. Or, just drop the trailer and put the motor homes out of the pit area. Let's get back to racing with car counts.
This should start a fire storm, lol!
Casey Miles
248H

I would not have a problem with a remote parking area for the motorhomes if that would allow the car count to be raised to maybe 100 cars in the sportsman classes. I really think its just a scape goat for NHRA to limit the sportsman participation. Better use of pit space would be a better solution

Billy Nees 02-01-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 525607)
I would not have a problem with a remote parking area for the motorhomes

Parking the motorhomes in a remote place even within the track would more than likely lead to theft and break-ins unless there was security. And NHRA isn't going to pay for that.

Mickey Whaley 02-01-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by billy nees (Post 525615)
parking the motorhomes in a remote place even within the track would more than likely lead to theft and break-ins unless there was security. And nhra isn't going to pay for that.

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Ed Wright 02-01-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 525615)
Parking the motorhomes in a remote place even within the track would more than likely lead to theft and break-ins unless there was security. And NHRA isn't going to pay for that.

Billy is right. I learned, if I ever go back to Chicago, to lock my motor home and trailer when I go up to make a run. Won't go back there, so it won't be an issue. Never caught anybody coming out of my motor home anywhere else. A guy parked across from me ran a guy out of my trailer while I was gone once also. He said "Your not from around here, are you?"

Shaun Vincent 02-01-2017 03:13 PM

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To help with pit space the first thing NHRA should do is limit all Pros to one trailer per car. No more support trailers and restaurants. This would help with the cost for all teams and put them on a more equal playing field.

Carguy49 02-01-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Vincent (Post 525642)
To help with pit space the first thing NHRA should do is limit all Pros to one trailer per car. No more support trailers and restaurants. This would help with the cost for all teams and put them on a more equal playing field.

Great idea, but never gonna happen. And now they are going to bring in the Jet cars, OH BOY!!!!!!!! ---NOT. I am not sure of space at other tracks, but at Pacific Raceways for the Northwest Nationals several of the pros have to park outside the Pro pits. This takes away quite a bit of space from the sportsman racers.

James Perrone 02-02-2017 09:48 AM

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large motorhomes are not the problem..THE PROBLEM IS YOU SO CALLED RACERS THINK YOU CAN GET INTO A NATIONAL EVENT WITH 2 OR 3 GRADE POINTS! same bunch whining about same **** .NHRA not for the weak or lazy .
Why don't you guys run IHRA ? o that sucks too NEXT?

Ron Ortiz 02-02-2017 12:16 PM

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James, can you tell us how you really feel. Lol. Aren't you glad you don't live somewhere like Wyoming where the tracks are all close to each other.

The real problems are Time, Entertainment, $$$$$, TV, Exec. payroll and concern.

As for the Sportsman, where else can you spend four days and nights visiting friends, working on your car, watching the Pros, getting maybe three time trials and then actual racing in your ,say 11 second car. Lets see that is a total of 33 seconds in time trials and 11 seconds of competition, or more if you win the first round. WOW, what a deal, and it only cost you about $300 or more.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA rocky mountain high

Casey Miles 02-02-2017 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 525707)
large motorhomes are not the problem..THE PROBLEM IS YOU SO CALLED RACERS THINK YOU CAN GET INTO A NATIONAL EVENT WITH 2 OR 3 GRADE POINTS! same bunch whining about same **** .NHRA not for the weak or lazy .
Why don't you guys run IHRA ? o that sucks too NEXT?

I know it sucks traveling from Long island, but last year my closest points race was 320, next closest was 550, 750, 800 and 800 miles. Luckily enough to get one grade point, Nevermind 2 or 3. Don't cast stones for wanting to race at the closest national event to some racers. Look at the entry list, most racers are from the north, d1 and d3.

Casey Miles

Mickey Whaley 02-02-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by james perrone (Post 525707)
large motorhomes are not the problem..the problem is you so called racers think you can get into a national event with 2 or 3 grade points! Same bunch whining about same **** .nhra not for the weak or lazy .
Why don't you guys run ihra ? O that sucks too next?

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kmawhee 02-02-2017 12:35 PM

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More than anything I was thinking it would be nice to have a full bracket. This year in SS and Stk about half the races have quotas under 64 cars. I just thought it would be cool to have a full field. If there were only 50 cars at an event wouldn't there be a bye run in rounds 2, 3 and 4?

The SS car I drive for my dad is pretty quick, I've never set a National Record but I'm not worried about missing a qualified field. We've been working for years to perform the way we do, I know I couldn't do what I do without his help - thanks dad (and happy birthday!).

We've been in a position where we needed to win class to make a qualified field. We've been bumped out by lower qualified class winners. I know what an accomplishment it is to be fast and I know what it feels like to lose a heads up race. At my first NHRA race Terry Pearson crushed me in R1 heads up race.

We comp race, so I know a little about what it's like to show up for a gunfight with a sharp stick!

It might even be cool if NHRA could give you something for qualifying at a national event (a shirt, or a sticker, not cash - save that for the guys who make it to Sunday), and if you don't qualify there's no reason to penalize someone, let them transfer their entry to another race.

I'd rather see NHRA encourage racers to perform rather than earn grade points. But, I can understand what they're trying to accomplish.

Sorry for the rambling post.

James Perrone 02-03-2017 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Miles (Post 525723)
I know it sucks traveling from Long island, but last year my closest points race was 320, next closest was 550, 750, 800 and 800 miles. Luckily enough to get one grade point, Nevermind 2 or 3. Don't cast stones for wanting to race at the closest national event to some racers. Look at the entry list, most racers are from the north, d1 and d3.

Casey Miles

What a shame the NORTH has raided the south and taken over D-2! In the end YOU have to race divisionals..It took me 2 YEARS to get into Englishtown with agrade 5
I still believe its aprivledge to race national events NEXT

Larry Hill 02-03-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kmawhee (Post 525728)
if you don't qualify there's no reason to penalize someone, let them transfer their entry to another race.

Non qualifiers had their three strikes at the plate, there needs to be a little sting if you DNQ. Practice makes .............. Been there and done that, DNQ always left a real bad taste in my mouth. Patsy said it made me real "Cranky"

jmcarter 02-03-2017 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 525622)
Billy is right. I learned, if I ever go back to Chicago, to lock my motor home and trailer when I go up to make a run. Won't go back there, so it won't be an issue. Never caught anybody coming out of my motor home anywhere else. A guy parked across from me ran a guy out of my trailer while I was gone once also. He said "Your not from around here, are you?"

Should have seen the thief that was caught at Gainesville 3 or 4 years ago...he sure as heck won't try that again with racers.


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