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RandyB 08-07-2007 05:33 PM

Lt 1 ??
 
On average how many runs can you get out of a LT 1 Stocker motor before you should freshen it up. That?s if you don't hurt any thing.

dean ribeiro 08-10-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Lt 1 ??
 
depends on how fast you are looking to go? typically if you are not concerned with slowing up a little, 110-130 runs is a reasonable expectation before you should freshen things. I would keep a regular check on valve lash, oil condition etc..



Daen

Jim Hanig 08-11-2007 10:45 PM

Re: Lt 1 ??
 
check with the Emmons boys i think they run thiers ba couple of years ,before they look at them 250 300.runs. J Hanig

Jim Hanig 08-11-2007 10:47 PM

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[QUOTE=Jim Hanig;37538]check with the Emmons boys i think they run A couple of years ,before they look at them 250 300.runs. J Hanig

BobUnkefer 08-11-2007 11:18 PM

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The 98 Firebird I drove in D/FIA (@ 3875 lbs) for the Emmons the last 3 years had 306 laps on it when Jim freshened it earlier this year and would still go a second under in good air. Constant preventive maintenance and frequent changes of the Lucas oil and a fresh K & N filter certainly helped.
Jim Hanigs report on the engine after he went through it was that one rod bearing showed a very minor nick right at the edge. Other than that it was still looking good inside.

Unk

Rich Biebel 08-12-2007 07:40 AM

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My LT-1 engine has basically the same ring package many bracket engines would have. It has a roller cam so there is no worries about lifter or cam wear. Other than possibly installing some new valve springs and checking over the rockers and pivots there is no reason an engine can't run as many laps as Bob and Jim say. I have built bracket engines that went 300- 400 runs and still looked fine inside and they had flat tappet cams, more compression and saw the same rpm levels.

Cam 08-12-2007 10:39 AM

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Rich:
How about valve springs on the same engine? Without over revving in the water box, how many passes are they generally good for? Who makes a good tool for checking seat pressure at the track?
Thanks,
Cam

NovaMan 08-12-2007 03:31 PM

Re: Lt 1 ??
 
There are a couple nice valve spring testers in this thread:
http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=6364

Rich Biebel 08-12-2007 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cam (Post 37565)
Rich:
How about valve springs on the same engine? Without over revving in the water box, how many passes are they generally good for? Who makes a good tool for checking seat pressure at the track?
Thanks,
Cam

I have very little experience with stock diameter springs on hyd.roller cams. I only mention springs as it is one area that might need attention. My own LT-1 has about 60 runs on it and I have occasioanlly gotten the rpm a little higher than I would like in the water. My experience with the Moroso type spring testers is that you need to have checked a new one for a reference as the numbers you get will be lower than actual pressure seen on a bench tester like a Rimac. I am doing a little checkup now on my engine.....leakdown testing and some valvetrain checks. Mostly just looking to see how things are after a number of runs. Changing valve springs is a very easy task and one we pretty much had to do very regularly in the "old days". I am new to modern day "stock eliminator" and the parts and reliability of them is also new to me. I have Bullet springs on my LT-1 and have some other stuff on the shelf........Comp cams and another brand as well. Springs are cheap and I like fresh stuff...we have some races coming up soon around here and the air will be cooler and I have more gear in the car so I like to know it's good to go....

Tom Turner 08-16-2007 11:53 PM

Re: Lt 1 ??
 
I run my stuff 150 runs or so and then feel the need for some kind of plecebic repair to soften my guilt. I have always thought that my cars were more consistent with fresh engines but it probably had more to do with the density altitude in the Spring that anything else. I know some LT1 racers run 300 + without trouble and still run in the top half. Good maintenence and an air cleaner (a K&N of course) are probably key here.

Rich Biebel 08-17-2007 09:51 AM

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I just did a leakdown test on my engine as well as check some valve springs. Leakdown was pretty good and in-line with what I was told about these blocks. Springs had the same pressure as when I installed them but I am replacing them all with another brand. TOM T. ....I bought one of those K&N direct to t-body filters but find I will have to modify the water pump housing to get it on. I need to block off the top outlet at the t-stat housing and weld in a hose adapter on the side. Is that the way you got one on your stuff?

Woodro Josey 08-17-2007 10:04 AM

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Rich, there is a K & N air filter that will bolt right on your Throttle Body, it is for a Marine application, Run's the same ET on or off, a very good piece.

bob shirley 08-17-2007 11:00 AM

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wj,
do you have the partnumber?

Woodro Josey 08-17-2007 12:11 PM

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Yes Sir,,,,,,,59-5020 K & N Kinda hard to find in a parts store!

Rich Biebel 08-17-2007 12:19 PM

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Woodro...I got one like we talked about but it hits the t-stat housing. It is somewhat oblong shaped and the flange goes directly on the t-body, perfect fit. It will not go on with the t-stat housing in place as the lower part of the filter hits that housing. The one I got is KN part # 59-5050. It's listed as a marine spark arrestor. If there is one that fits with the t-stat housing in place it's not the one I have.

Woodro Josey 08-17-2007 01:07 PM

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Rich the 5020 rubs the Thermostat housing but not a problem, it has an indention in the Filter, fits very good!

Woodro Josey 08-17-2007 01:14 PM

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Rich go to www.knfilters.com and go to search and type in the number and they have a good view of it there!

Rich Biebel 08-17-2007 01:18 PM

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Woodro, I saw a race car with a K&N like the one I got a couple years ago and that's what led me to buy the one I have. It is tapered front to back. I think I can weld in a hose adapter on the side for the rad. hose. There was an outlet there probably for a heater hose fitting I'd guess. I did see the 5020 but remebered that tapered one I saw on a car and ordered something that had that tapered shape.


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