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Gary Summers 02-10-2017 11:08 AM

Redman petition
 
We need to get a petition started against nhra if anybody knows how for them to keep Redman working to keep things moving smoothly at the races . Just talked to red and nhra has him on the no hire list so that means no Redman at national event or divisional a or the hot rods so we need to get something going. Thanks Gary Summers

James Perrone 02-10-2017 11:13 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Wow. A man who does so much for so little $ can't fix stooopid

Randall Klein 02-10-2017 11:18 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Ever watch him at Indy paring cars, inserting standbys, his paper looks like a D-Day invasion plan; that one race alone makes him invaluable. Plus he's personable and approachable....something NHRA could use a lot more of

garylanders 02-10-2017 11:26 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Wow. That's just not right! Redman is a First Class Act! NHRA can't replace that.

Marty Buth 02-10-2017 11:34 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
I will sign it Gary. We need more people like Redman! Will he still work Div 3 events?

kansas stocker 02-10-2017 11:35 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Are they trying to piss everybody off or are they just that stupid?
Pete

Don Kennedy 02-10-2017 11:39 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Summers (Post 526502)
We need to get a petition started against nhra if anybody knows how for them to keep Redman working to keep things moving smoothly at the races . Just talked to red and nhra has him on the no hire list so that means no Redman at national event or divisional a or the hot rods so we need to get something going. Thanks Gary Summers

Redman took care of all racers he knew how to handle racers needs in a professional way and more important all the racers respected him and liked him so there were less issues during parking , I don't care why NHRA has him on the no hire list > no one is perfect and everyone makes a mistake some times Redman should be back working the national events and Divisional Period he is the best :)

Gary Summers 02-10-2017 11:45 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Buth (Post 526511)
I will sign it Gary. We need more people like Redman! Will he still work Div 3 events?

Does anyone that's smarter than me know how to get one started with out red you can't image what a cluster it will be.
I was at charolotte a couple years back that he was not there and it was a big problem nobody knew anything

Gary Summers 02-10-2017 11:48 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Buth (Post 526511)
I will sign it Gary. We need more people like Redman! Will he still work Div 3 events?

Marty he told me this
Morning no nationals divisional series or hot rods

Billy Nees 02-10-2017 11:57 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
I could be wrong with this but I was under the impression that Redman pissed off a few of the big shots up in the Ivory Tower. If that IS the case, it will take more than a petition to get him back.

Alan Roehrich 02-10-2017 12:07 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Bill Redman Floyd was probably the best friend of the racers that NHRA had on their staff anywhere.

That said, I get the impression that the people above the division tech level at NHRA do not know, understand, or give a damn that racers are family, and that guys like Redman, Travis Miller, Dave Ley, and others are a part of our family.

Sportsman drag racing is, for the most part, a family sport. What they will eventually discover is that when they continue to screw over the family that is sportsman drag racing, their little world will cease to exist, because they certainly do not have the slightest idea how to attract new people to drag racing. The only thing bringing in new people is the family, that brings their youth to the sport.

Michael Beard 02-10-2017 12:10 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Just another straw on the camel's back. NHRA doesn't care, because the camel's back never breaks.

I would take Redman over anyone in the Ivory Tower in a heartbeat.

Jeff Niceswanger 02-10-2017 12:19 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Reddog was on the verge of quitting anyway . His legs are killin him...They might be doing him a favor

Casey Miles 02-10-2017 12:36 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Actions talk stronger then words, have all sportsman racers go in to staging, lock their vehicles and then walk away. See what the NHRA staff does then? I went to Suffolk to set the record with my Camaro, after making the back up run, NHRA said that they weren't allowing record setting. So,as my turn I put my car on the scale at Suffolk race way and then locked it, went to the tower and discussed it with officials about no record setting. We set records.

Casey Miles

Gary Summers 02-10-2017 01:06 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 526518)
I could be wrong with this but I was under the impression that Redman pissed off a few of the big shots up in the Ivory Tower. If that IS the case, it will take more than a petition to get him back.

Billy he just takes up for us because he knows who pays the bills for those people in the ivory tower that don't give a flying flip about us peons that they are better than us Gary

Gary Summers 02-10-2017 01:10 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 526520)
Bill Redman Floyd was probably the best friend of the racers that NHRA had on their staff anywhere.

That said, I get the impression that the people above the division tech level at NHRA do not know, understand, or give a damn that racers are family, and that guys like Redman, Travis Miller, Dave Ley, and others are a part of our family.

Sportsman drag racing is, for the most part, a family sport. What they will eventually discover is that when they continue to screw over the family that is sportsman drag racing, their little world will cease to exist, because they certainly do not have the slightest idea how to attract new people to drag racing. The only thing bringing in new people is the family, that brings their youth to the sport.

. Amen to that

Alan Roehrich 02-10-2017 01:24 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Gary,
For whatever it is worth, if you do a search, there are a couple of websites that host online petitions, they'll allow you to set up a petition and give you a link you can post and distribute via email. I have no idea how you get the results to NHRA, or who at NHRA you would get them to.

jmcarter 02-10-2017 03:08 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Alan, you know very well the NHRA is all about the family, specifically the JFR and DSR families but a few others to 'spice' up things...apparently you build a huge youth following by letting them smell nitro in the pits, selling them T shirts, etc. There must be a connection to the instant gratification mentality that runs rampant today and of course we know that's not an identifiable demographic amongst the sportsman ranks. Don't have a clue as to the NHRA hierarchy but there must be some family connections regarding hires within the IT department, marketing, etc. so based on all that I'd have to say they are very family oriented.

From all appearances Redman and his ilk are too closely associated with "our" family rather than the NHRA family, hence his persona non grata status.

Chuck Beach 02-10-2017 05:48 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Redman is as good as they get, won't be the same at races without him.

63corvette 02-10-2017 07:00 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
From my understanding this all started with Redman last year and now this year it is not any better. I talked to him at Las Vegas last fall and that was his story. He was the best at the parking plan than anyone I know and I am old.
I also understand Harold who usually runs the front of the staging lanes is on a 4 race suspension.
NHRA just does not understand any of the Sportsman racers and does not care to understand any of us.
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

Pete Beau 02-10-2017 08:43 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
On the hottest, sunniest days Red's starting line had nails in it !!

Not to mention all of the other positive things he brings.

boostedf22c 02-10-2017 10:04 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
I don't know the process of getting a petition started but I'd gladly sign it.

voltdr 02-10-2017 11:04 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
This would be the first person on my recipient list.
glight@nhra.com

Dan Foley
SC4698

Rick Bailey 02-11-2017 01:01 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
the clue for NHRA should be ..... look at ALL the cars that has Bill's decal on them ! And not to mention The Redman tee shirts !!

Where do I sign !

james schaechter 02-11-2017 07:19 AM

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I fear that the Executive Level staff are further than ever from understanding the motivation within any racer be it professional or sportsman. They clearly do not value their employees that are customer facing and have a passion to support racing and racers. Sad...

Brian Oakes 02-11-2017 09:00 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
This is just B.S, you couldn't find a better man then Red, there is only ONE way to get there att. Nobody enter for a National or show up for a Div. race, no mighty dollar in there pocket, will get there att. BUT there are too many Wally chasers and N"<& lovers. There is still another place to race in the I section, everyone complains they pay no money, but no one will support them. like to see Red over here and there still is bracket racing and i bought one of them cars. Get that paper out i will sign it, and watch my name come off the Gators entry list soon. hang in the Red. Brian

TOSTO RACING 02-11-2017 09:26 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
I think Jim said it best they don't value there employees. Its ashame really, who knows stock and super stock better than the old guys in tech! Without them what is stock and superstock, just another bracket race, I hope NHRA higher ups get on this website and read this stuff they can really learn alot here. I really don't understand what NHRA is doing lately but its definateley not helping anyone! I'm afraid they will lose a lot of the good guys if they don't change there ways,just my opinion.

Daran Summerton 02-11-2017 09:40 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Redman and Harold are the best! Would like to hear why???

DIAPERMAN 02-11-2017 10:10 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Redman has been a close friend of mine for years .He is the Best thing NHRA ever had.It has always amazed me how the workers are treated ,like dirt.They work thier AZZ off in heat and cold and rain,for Minimum wage.But they do this for THE RACERS Red and the crew truely care about all of us.I just sent Redman a new batch of REDMAN shirts so get one for track.Lets support the Man that has taken care of us for years.Here is an idea get ahold of PRO teams and manufacturers and see if they can help.I will be making some phone calls for RED

Michael Beard 02-11-2017 10:23 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 526622)
I fear that the Executive Level staff are further than ever from understanding the motivation within any racer be it professional or sportsman. They clearly do not value their employees that are customer facing and have a passion to support racing and racers. Sad...

Again, why would NHRA management care when there's never any consequences?

Gary Summers 02-11-2017 11:37 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING (Post 526628)
I think Jim said it best they don't value there employees. Its ashame really, who knows stock and super stock better than the old guys in tech! Without them what is stock and superstock, just another bracket race, I hope NHRA higher ups get on this website and read this stuff they can really learn alot here. I really don't understand what NHRA is doing lately but its definateley not helping anyone! I'm afraid they will lose a lot of the good guys if they don't change there ways,just my opinion.

All those guys in Glendora are smart enough to read is the six digit pay checks. That's all they care about. Gary

Gary Summers 02-11-2017 11:42 AM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kansas stocker (Post 526512)
Are they trying to piss everybody off or are they just that stupid?
Pete

I think they have accomplished both. Gary

Ron Ortiz 02-11-2017 12:07 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
You all know that NHRA reads some of this stuff. In the past usually some rep of some kind has responded on some topics. You know they see this don't you. Then here is your answer.
Everyone should just post right here and ask the question.

NHRA, IN SUPPORT OF OUR SPORT, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING SPORTSMAN.

NHRA, IN SUPPORT OF OUR SPORT, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING SPORTSMAN.

NHRA, IN SUPPORT OF OUR SPORT, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING SPORTSMAN.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA well NHRA

Alan Roehrich 02-11-2017 12:48 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael beard (Post 526632)
again, why would nhra management care when there's never any consequences?

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Dave Crouchet 02-11-2017 02:12 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Oakes (Post 526626)
This is just B.S, you couldn't find a better man then Red, there is only ONE way to get there att. Nobody enter for a National or show up for a Div. race, no mighty dollar in there pocket, will get there att. BUT there are too many Wally chasers and N"<& lovers. There is still another place to race in the I section, everyone complains they pay no money, but no one will support them. like to see Red over here and there still is bracket racing and i bought one of them cars. Get that paper out i will sign it, and watch my name come off the Gators entry list soon. hang in the Red. Brian

Brian is on the right track. First off email every CEO-COO of theTitle sponsors that put money up and let them know the concerns racers have with NHRA. And secondly if racers decide to miss a race only do so at a NHRA owned track. Theres no need to hurt the NON NHRA owned tracks. And Consider racing IHRA, u may like it.

Ed Carpenter 02-11-2017 02:58 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Boycott won't work because to many Nhra lovers out there won't go with it......Redman is great and nhra could give two ****s less........nhra is becoming a joke...

Joe Martens 02-11-2017 03:14 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Redman is without question one of the best. He could do it all from prepping a killer starting line to parking all the rigs. I know he busted his butt to make us Sportsmen racers happy, and we know that's not an easy task! Lol! He is definitely an advocate for us! I will gladly sign a petition!!!

tony wood 02-11-2017 03:14 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
everyone knows how nhra treats sportsman still we support them. WHY? maybe IHRA would like to have him. redman comes with hot pickles and beer what a resume.......he is the best nhra could ask for and they let him go stupidity for sure

RACER1530 02-11-2017 04:32 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/getti...on-signatures/

start here

Frechles71 02-11-2017 06:48 PM

Re: Redman petition
 
Let me know where to sign. Redman is one of the best!


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