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Is it just me or does it seem NHRA, ESPN or someone else is trying to phase out Pro Stock. The coverage is not to good for P/S. Very little qualifying and skipped a whole round in the finals.

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Probably needed to make room for nitro Harleys.Who'd want to miss that.:rolleyes:

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It looks like the fuel cars are using Pro Stock as filler..............

It won't be long before the fuel guys can split the contingency money 2 ways and not 3..............

Pro Stock is headed to the same place that Pro Stock Truck went when the fuel guys got tired of a 4 way split.........

I would welcome them all back to Stock & Super Stock....

Bob

PS:
What did everybody think about that made up BS dust up between the 2 millionaires??????????

Just goes to show you what people will do for ratings & $$$$$$$$$...

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The show in general was a flop. I only watched the show to see the new paint schemes and who did what at the first race.

The "BS" between John and Don was a waste of time - WHO CARES????

I've seen the Nitro Harleys in person, not as much fun on T.V.

Best interviews - Leah Pritchett after she won and Ron Capps after he redlit.

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It was almost as bad as the whining post about the LD340 intake.

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That's funny right there. I got a good laugh over the "thousandaires" wearing out the thread.

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Watching the coverage it is easy to see why people can’t get sponsorship for Pro-Stock. They pretty much hide the little they do show in the middle of the telecast. Maybe they could use some of the time that is used to cover the JR Dragster career of the stick drivers to actually cover current Pro-Stock.

Thank god for DVR’s so I can skip over all the nitro and watch the little bit of Pro-stock without wasting 2 hours of my life.

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A "Thousandairy". I have been called all kind of stuff, especially by my wife, but a new tag. I kinda like that. Do you have to be old, fat, and stupid to get in that club? That right there is funny, I don't care what you say.

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This topic really torques my vent hole! I know this idea comes up over and over and over again but why not use the new factory race cars for a new improved Pro Stock???? It just seems like such a great idea I can't understand why it isn't even considered by the NHRA. Why do they stick them in S/SS with more letters--is it just to make an already incomprehensible class even more confusing? They get rid of the separate FI classes in the name of simplifying, they take .3 off our indexes to help the little guy (wtf?) now I have to compete against cars that come with their own factory support team! Don't get me wrong, I love the renewed factory interest and I have nothing against rich people racing but why not let these guys show off on the big stage? And don't even get me started on the over-Camaro of the class....

My Stocker is 53 years old!

Chris Barnes
Stock 6621

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My original post was not meant to start in fighting. I know this not a P/S site, but I am worried about our class racing. If they will do this to one of their top three pro classes, where do we stand. Are they going cut a eliminator series the way they did the Modified series. The stock rules are, in my opinion, getting too "loose". My concern is where will they stop. One big "bracket"? I left Drag racing for a while a, and now I realize what a great sport we have. I don't want to go back to where I was. It involved running in circles and not nearly friendly.

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Hell YES! I fit right into that club. I'm all of those things. :) Thanx Jeff for reminding us that we're all out here!

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I wanted to feature them as "Factory Pro Stock" at the Class Nationals, but most of those people didn't support the event in the first place.

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I would like to see a format like Top Stock used to be. Qualifying 2 on Friday, one more Sat Morning and finish on Sat Night. Other than odd amount on first round, no bye, fast looser from the previous round comes back, heads up. They have moved a little toward that with the .500 pro tree, but qualifying 8 and the rest go back to stock don't work. Separate eliminator, separate everything. If you want to run Stock, bring another car. I really have not cared for the format since the first race. Indexes too liberal, or many other things. And blown vs unblown don't work. Lot's of complaints from the Stock guys and girls, mostly true. Maybe it will get better.

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[QUOTE=Chris Barnes;526864]This topic really torques my vent hole! I know this idea comes up over and over and over again but why not use the new factory race cars for a new improved Pro Stock???? It just seems like such a great idea I can't understand why it isn't even considered by the NHRA. Why do they stick them in S/SS with more letters--is it just to make an already incomprehensible class even more confusing? They get rid of the separate FI classes in the name of simplifying, they take .3 off our indexes to help the little guy (wtf?) now I have to compete against cars that come with their own factory support team! Don't get me wrong, I love the renewed factory interest and I have nothing against rich people racing but why not let these guys show off on the big stage? And don't even get me started on the over-Camaro of the class....

My Stocker is 53 years old!

Chris Barnes

Great Post Chris!! Bingo we have a winner... They had the perfect format already and did not take advantage of it. Look at how many good PS racers are setting out... Asking us to embrace this BS is like embracing Hilary! That Sh!t ain't gonna happen! Can't blame the economy for everything...

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2017 season mello yello series shirt being sold on nhra web site:

See anything wrong here??

Shows you how much attention they pay to Pro Stock these days:D

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Took me a second, but that's funny!!!

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Bingo... we have a proven winner right here!!

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There ya go. Works for me. We get to watch it too.

Pro Stock at Divisionals , under the lights ..Yeah!

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I like what Jeff said. Need to work Pro Stock back into division races. For Nationals.....qualify 8, plus something to do with division racers, like division leader gets a first round bye. I also like "the fast loser" part. Personally, I would like to see a 14x32 tire rule.

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All great points Jeff!
If only NHRA Executives knew something about racers, racecars and sportsman fans...

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That isn't a big surprise. It just shows how far away they are from their core business. I used to think that the decision makers didn't care. Now I am afraid to say they actually don't know what racing is. We can only hope that the overpaid execs that are there now move on before the whole deal goes sideways. Maybe some people with passion and understanding about racing will have a chance to save it. At least the grass roots associations are there so we have a place to race if the current regime crashes the association into the ground. I wish it was better, but I fear that it is not going to get better before it gets worse for us as NHRA members.

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I remember when yourself , the Teuton's and a few others raced Top Stock and the stands were full. It was a great time for Stock in general.

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OK, I'll volunteer to take Compton's place. I'm retired, drawing a pension and have insurance so I can work for cheap. (Notice I didn't say free) Know class racing and have been there, done that. We need to get back to the basics and promote, make the pro guys pay to play. They got it or can get it. OH! don't drink much so no worries there. lol

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I don't know what Tom Compton is doing these days but I would rather have Peter Clifford's job.

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If you have not seen this article it is a good read. It talks about some of the issues raised here and also reveals why the Hemis don't run well under the new rules.

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/2016-...utions-future/

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I have always been a fan of E.E.,s and root for her..but was a little disappointed at the kick in the crotch she delivered to Mopar on T.V. "it's nice to drive a car that goes somewhere when you let the clutch out" I'm sure nobody was more frustrated with not being competitive than Mopar....maybe just say.."we appreciate all of the hard work and the funds they provided, but we feel like the move to Chevrolet is in our best interest " and just leave it there. You don't want to burn bridges because a stroke of the pen in Glendora could have Dodges showing tail lights to Chevys.

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I've never been a fan of EE and thought we were seeing her real self. The big kick in the crotch was when Mopar pulled their support of Alan Johnson and gave it to EE and Jeggy.
Just my $.02.
Pete

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Where's Westcott in all of this?

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Why would ESPN even care about Pro Stock? The TV coverage is now on FOX.....

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It would take more than "a stroke of a pen by NHRA" to make a set of MOPAR cylinder head castings that could be made to flow enough air to make enough hp to be competitive. MOPAR needs a "kick in the crotch" for not being able to make a decent set cylinder head castings available to their racers. And, E.E., as you call her, is a very nice young lady. In her position, you would be glad to be back to where you had a chance to win a race too.

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She was showing her real self. Not a fan either.
I was around her when she ran SC and SG.
That was her real self then, and no I did not lose to her either so it is not being bitter.
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates
Canyon, TX

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I read the hot rod article,and the comments from A.J. and Chris Mcgaha saying the Hemi needed the RPM to make HP. So maybe a pen stroke that throws out the rev limiter makes them competitive? As far as EE I would love to meet her. She's apparently a good friend of A.J.,s and that's good enough for me. I just remember her comments last season when she said several times "we are thrilled to be part of the Mopar team and we are committed to keep working to make this car competitive "

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RPMs won't do it if you can't get enough air flow. Cylinder head friends of mine, from two different shops (not connected to Elite) told me the same thing about those heads.
If AJ can't make one run, I don't really see anybody else doing it.

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When you go from being champion to struggling to qualify or get out of the 1st round, it tends to annoy you. When you have to go beg for parts, that makes it worse. So I'm not real sure it's fair to blame Erica for her attitude, although voicing it in an interview like that is a bit unprofessional.

Mopar and Ford have pretty much made it very plain that they're not real interested in trying to compete in Pro Stock. They're unwilling to spend the money and effort. It's been that way for years. People blame GM and NHRA, but the fault lies with Ford and Mopar.

The RPM rule is pretty recent, so I'm not real sure that's what hurt Mopar, as much as I respect and admire Allen Johnson.

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I did not hear her mention MOPAR, I heard her say she was very happy to be in a Chevrolet again. That is being happy with her ride. Correct? I did not hear her mention Fiat motors.

When I have been around her, she has been very pleasant to everybody. You can not say the lady can't drive.

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My apologies to Mr. Teuton. I'm sure he is a conventional millionaire. I was mostly referring to the racers with thinner wallets. I'm sure I have a net worth of thousands, but my bank account tends to be in the hundreds, so I'm maybe a "hundredaire".

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Sorry James, just saw a cheap way for a little fun and games. Need that on here sometimes. I hope no offense was taken.

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No offense taken. I wasn't originally referring to you as a "thousandaire". I do like to post a bit of a joke on here myself. I pulled your leg a bit years ago at Ennis when I said my Challenger didn't come with the DP scoop. You started to proceed to tell me about the DP Challengers, but I started laughing before you got very far.