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Billy Nees 03-01-2017 11:09 AM

NHRA Charter
 
Does anyone have any idea where I can find a copy of it? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Julie Jordan 03-01-2017 12:47 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
You can order copies of all incorporation documents from the California Secretary of State website. There is a per page fee.

Billy Nees 03-01-2017 12:59 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Thank You Julie!

HR9121 03-01-2017 01:57 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Billy what you up too?

Bob Mulry 03-01-2017 01:59 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 528391)
Thank You Julie!

Billy,

I'll split it with you.............

Might be interesting.....

Bob

PS:
How are those warts coming along???????

Lew Silverman 03-01-2017 03:58 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
1 Attachment(s)
Here's where you can start, Billy

http://www.sos.ca.gov/business-progr...tion-requests/

Greenlight 03-01-2017 08:08 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
NHRA Articles of Incorporation from 1951 and amended version from 2009.

http://northwestvets.com/nhra_articl...orporation.pdf

Ed Fernandez 03-01-2017 10:09 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Get the pop corn and the beer/soda. This is gonna be goooooooood.

Ed Fernandez 03-01-2017 10:17 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
I see in the 1951 filing that officers are to be elected every three years, but by who? Is there any paperwork available that confirms that the right of the members to elect officers every three years was revoked?

Dennis P Chapman 03-01-2017 10:46 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 528439)
Get the pop corn and the beer/soda. This is gonna be goooooooood.

x2

Jim Wahl 03-01-2017 11:20 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Anybody else notice that the priority of "safety" and "sportsmanship" was reduced from #1 to #3 with (#1) changed to "Improve business conditions in the sport of drag racing and in the hot rod industry (#2) and to promote and advance the common business interests of those engaged in the sport of drag racing and the hot rod industry." ? Jim

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Ed Fernandez 03-01-2017 11:52 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Many questions.

Billy Nees 03-02-2017 08:49 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 528447)
"Improve business conditions in the sport of drag racing and in the hot rod industry (#2) and to promote and advance the common business interests of those engaged in the sport of drag racing and the hot rod industry.

This is exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate Greenlight posting this. I'll be working on getting my own copy this morning (I like being able to hold things).
I'm not a Lawyer but I do know a few and I'm pretty darned sure that the above paragraph gives Sportsman Racers a basis for one he** of a Class Action Discrimination Suit!

GUMP 03-02-2017 11:13 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 528458)
I'm not a Lawyer but I do know a few and I'm pretty darned sure that the above paragraph gives Sportsman Racers a basis for one he** of a Class Action Discrimination Suit!

What do you plan to achieve?

Carguy49 03-02-2017 12:13 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Billy, just click on the link provided by Greenlight and print a copy - I DID.

Greg Hill 03-02-2017 12:46 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Billy, you should contact Bruce Noland. I think he still has a bunch of info about this particular deal.

Billy Nees 03-02-2017 01:23 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 528471)
What do you plan to achieve?

I don't know. Right now, I'm just talking.

David Lee 03-02-2017 02:45 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 528440)
I see in the 1951 filing that officers are to be elected every three years, but by who? Is there any paperwork available that confirms that the right of the members to elect officers every three years was revoked?


Unless the charter gives member voting rights, it would be the board of directors that would elect the officers.

As far as discrimination, the one avenue that maybe viable is the pros get free admission into national events and sportsman have to pay.

Julie Jordan 03-02-2017 04:08 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 528484)
Unless the charter gives member voting rights, it would be the board of directors that would elect the officers.

As far as discrimination, the one avenue that maybe viable is the pros get free admission into national events and sportsman have to pay.

Pros don't pay an entry fee like we do but they have to be a "space rental" fee. It's not a free ride.

Ed Fernandez 03-02-2017 05:23 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Julie Jordan (Post 528487)
Pros don't pay an entry fee like we do but they have to be a "space rental" fee. It's not a free ride.

I was told the pros pay big bucks for their spot rentals and all their support vehicles. Been like that for a while now.

Ed Fernandez 03-02-2017 05:25 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 528484)
Unless the charter gives member voting rights, it would be the board of directors that would elect the officers.

As far as discrimination, the one avenue that maybe viable is the pros get free admission into national events and sportsman have to pay.

There was a thread about members signing away the right to vote for board members. It happened supposedly way back in the 70's I believe.

Ed Fernandez 03-02-2017 05:34 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Lawsuits are fine and dandy if you have the financial resources AND backing of the membership. Sadly you can't get three racers to agree on any given issue. Everybody has an agenda. The only way to beat them is voting with your feet. No one shows up enough times they get the message. The best scenario would be to drag them down to the point they lose enough money to make them bail out and have someone stepup who has a plan to save the sport. It will take plenty of moolah and determined parties to bring the sport back to any degree of health. I still say we're not in a car culture society us older guys are familiar with. Some change is needed but that's where the agendas step in. Nomex underwear fitted, flame away.

Jeff Teuton 03-02-2017 06:05 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Only the board had a vote as of 1981 I think. And I think Ed is right; you can't get 3 racer to vote alike because everyone has an agenda. I got an agenda. Billy Nees got a different agenda, Bruce Noland got a different agenda, and Matt Hagen got a different agenda. Maybe we should race agendas. A/AG. How's that sound.

Billy Nees 03-02-2017 06:22 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 528501)
Only the board had a vote as of 1981 I think.

That sounds about right. We (supposedly) relinquished our "right-to-vote" then.

killintime6968 03-02-2017 08:08 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
This probably happened just before they killed off Modfied Production.


Bruce Cameron

Joe DeMarzo 03-02-2017 08:15 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Billy, what class do you race in and do you have a car, lol? Sorry Billy I could not help myself it's been a long winter.

BobOrme 03-02-2017 08:52 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 528495)
I was told the pros pay big bucks for their spot rentals and all their support vehicles. Been like that for a while now.

Yep. I don' t know if the numbers have changed, but not too long ago, they paid for every space over one space per car. It was $2,000 per space for part-timers and $1,500 per space for those committed to run the full national event schedule. DSR and JFR pay a bunch of money for their support vehicle and hospitality spaces.

Greenlight 03-02-2017 09:33 PM

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And then there was this:

http://www.capdale.com/files/upload/NHRAcomplaint.pdf

Ed Fernandez 03-03-2017 02:25 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Anybody know if the IRS came down with a ruling on this? I sure wish I could pull in $770K for doing something I loved to do.
Wonder if the RICO Act would apply to these cretins? They could probably teach organized crime a few tricks.

Alan Roehrich 03-03-2017 08:15 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez (Post 528546)
Anybody know if the IRS came down with a ruling on this? I sure wish I could pull in $770K for doing something I loved to do.
Wonder if the RICO Act would apply to these cretins? They could probably teach organized crime a few tricks.

Ed, I seriously doubt the IRS even bothered. Think about the timing of the complaint, and who it was addressed to.

Billy Nees 03-03-2017 08:41 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenlight (Post 528528)

Seeing the name and date on this letter, it would be interesting to know who's campaigns the Board-of-Directors donated monies to.

Billy Nees 03-03-2017 08:48 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe DeMarzo (Post 528516)
Billy, what class do you race in and do you have a car, lol?

Oh Joe, I don't race! That is WAY too dangerous!
I collect lint and left-handed socks. In my spare time I like to go on different internet sites and start relevant discussions.
This afternoon, I think I'll go on the State of Louisiana website and point out to the State Representatives just how dangerous it is to allow drinking beer at Mardis Gras.

Dave Casey 03-03-2017 09:34 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenlight (Post 528528)

Ah yes, addressed to Lois Lerner, got her law degree at Western New England College, about 2 miles from my shop. She was to address the graduating class a few years ago, but withdrew after they found under her direction that the IRS was holding back paperwork for all tea party non profits.

Timetraveler 03-03-2017 05:37 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billy nees (Post 528556)
oh joe, i don't race! That is way too dangerous!
I collect lint and left-handed socks. In my spare time i like to go on different internet sites and start relevant discussions.
This afternoon, i think i'll go on the state of louisiana website and point out to the state representatives just how dangerous it is to allow drinking beer at mardis gras.

"lol"

Jeff Teuton 03-03-2017 07:40 PM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Billy, you are over the line. Mardi Gras, Momma, and Mopar; three things you don't fool with.

Billy Nees 03-04-2017 08:31 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 528606)
Billy, you are over the line. Mardi Gras, Momma, and Mopar; three things you don't fool with.

Jeff, I would NEVER "fool" with a Religious Holiday! I was "fooling" with your beer.

Alan Roehrich 03-04-2017 10:16 AM

Re: NHRA Charter
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 528625)
Jeff, I would NEVER "fool" with a Religious Holiday! I was "fooling" with your beer.


Billy, Jeff's beer is as religious as any holiday........................



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