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2tenths nick 03-01-2017 08:06 PM

New To SS Racing
 
1974 Duster 360 What class would be best for Me I have the car almost done NHRA HP 265 Unsure how to figure the weight :confused:

HIGHOCTAIN2000 03-01-2017 08:26 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Go to classracerinfo.com stock superstock tools class guide.

Cotten 03-01-2017 09:52 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Ssja

Ed Wright 03-02-2017 11:54 AM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Kiss your money goodby.

Chipper Chapman 03-02-2017 11:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 528474)
Kiss your money goodby.

We earn it to have the ability to spend it don't we? lol

4406mopar 03-03-2017 02:03 AM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 528474)
Kiss your money goodby.

Some could ask 40K of their money back?

GTX JOHN 03-03-2017 04:47 AM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Duster 360 is a good combo for SS.....Although none are
cheap!

Ed Wright 03-03-2017 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 4406mopar (Post 528545)
Some could ask 40K of their money back?

Very small part of what I have spent over the years. Should have looked for a cheaper hobby.
Instead of selling my car, Mr 440 MOPAR, since I need to quit, what do you think I should do with it?

jmcarter 03-03-2017 10:54 AM

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Running a SS/JA car is a tall order if you plan on winning any heads up or class runoffs with Ed's car in the field. Very hard runners in that class that have invested a ton of time and money.

Wade_Owens 03-03-2017 12:12 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
SS/JA is one of my favorite classes. Lots of different combos and most run VERY well. When Indy comes around, I'm on the fence for this class...

Wade O

Ed Wright 03-03-2017 12:31 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
If you want heads ups, SS/JA is the class for you. All three mfgrs built several cars that fit there.
What I meant by "kiss your money goodby" was running Super Stock. No reflection on any one combo or class. SS is expensive. Comp is even worse.

Mike Pearson 03-03-2017 12:52 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2tenths nick (Post 528425)
1974 Duster 360 What class would be best for Me I have the car almost done NHRA HP 265 Unsure how to figure the weight :confused:

In SSJA the weight would be 265 X 11 lbs /Hp + 170 driver weight = 3085 lbs
SS/KA 265 X 12 lbs/Hp + 170 = 3350 lbs.
The car would have to be pretty light with a light driver to make SS/JA. Most likely will fit K the best.

davidhuff 03-03-2017 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 528567)
Very small part of what I have spent over the years. Should have looked for a cheaper hobby.
Instead of selling my car, since I need to quit, what do you think I should do with it?

Sale your car and buy Apple Stock from ScottTrade and retire happy like I did five years ago.Only cost $7.00 plus the current price of stock.
You can thank me later!LOL

Ed Wright 03-03-2017 06:43 PM

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I'll have to look into that, David. Got out of the stock market after losing so much in that mess in 2008. Been trying to avoid that again.

davidhuff 03-03-2017 07:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 528604)
I'll have to look into that, David. Got out of the stock market after losing so after that mess much in 2008. Been trying to avoid that again.

I do understand and I also learned the hard way by buying stocks from big investment firms and paying high fees when I buy and sale. I do my own research now and when I buy or sale it cost me $7.00 per transaction.

ss3011 03-03-2017 08:56 PM

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Fidelity is now $4.95 per trade !

Ed Wright 03-03-2017 08:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 528608)
Fidelity is now $4.95 per trade !

Thanks!

Eric Merryfield 03-04-2017 12:16 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2tenths nick (Post 528425)
1974 Duster 360 What class would be best for Me I have the car almost done NHRA HP 265 Unsure how to figure the weight :confused:

To avoid a potential bonfire of the cash flow, get nitro joes stats so you can see what #s are being run in the various classes you are considering. Get on classracerinfo.com too. Best figure out how fast you want to/need to run to be competitve and then add or subtract weight to fit. Be honest with yourself on whether you would like to try and be the fastest in the class($,$,$), or win races, or just want to compete and have fun. You can always start out in a less populated class and learn and perfect the car over time and throw the $ as it proves worthy.

Now if you are inclined to build the first 9 second ss/ja 74 360 Duster, install a smokestack for the cash!

Eric

Ed Wright 03-04-2017 12:56 PM

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Great advice. ^^^^^^^^^

FireSale 03-04-2017 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by davidhuff (Post 528578)
Sale your car and buy Apple Stock from ScottTrade and retire happy like I did five years ago.Only cost $7.00 plus the current price of stock.
You can thank me later!LOL

I bought Apple in '96 at $16.50/share and forgot about it for 15 years. Paid for my race car, truck, trailer, TV, stereo, tools.....

Sure beats the Casino.

davidhuff 03-04-2017 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 528640)
I bought Apple in '96 at $16.50/share and forgot about it for 15 years. Paid for my race car, truck, trailer, TV, stereo, tools.....

Sure beats the Casino.

I agree and my apple stock today is $139.78 per share.

Bruce Gibson 03-05-2017 12:50 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2tenths nick (Post 528425)
1974 Duster 360 What class would be best for Me I have the car almost done NHRA HP 265 Unsure how to figure the weight :confused:

Nick,
I race a ss/ka 74 dart with a 360. You can call or text my cell @ 765-404-6841. Would be glad to help if I can.

Bruce.

davidhuff 03-05-2017 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Gibson (Post 528714)
Nick,
I race a ss/ka 74 dart with a 360. You can call or text my cell @ 765-404-6841. Would be glad to help if I can.

Bruce.

Wow,another great Class Racer!

Angelo DiTocco 03-05-2017 08:15 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
I'm going to give you a word of sincere advice. I'm not being cynical and I have no axe to grind with NHRA... or any manufacturers or builders etc......
What ever a reasonable person (and I'm assuming you are a reasonable person) thinks that building from scratch "should cost" and I mean a complete car ready to hit the road and be competitive - you literally have to double that amount. That's the reality of it. It would be wise to have the project fully funded / budgeted for before you buy anything. If you do your research you will find quite a few partially completed cars that owners are trying to sell because they underestimated the real cost. These cars might look like good deals but be careful.... if you don't budget for everything the project might need - you will end up spending more, much more, than you believed it would cost... or worse, not being able to complete it.
One of the safest ways to get in is to buy a turnkey car from someone you know well if that's possible.... where you know the history of the car well etc... From where you're standing - this looks like a more expensive way to come on board... but I can tell you, I built 2 cars from scratch over the years... and know the real deal.
What ever you do.... I wish you the best of luck

Mark70Nova 03-05-2017 09:50 PM

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Good advice Angelo, although I'm not a Stock Eliminator racer YET, I have raced for a long time and know what it costs.:D

Ed Wright 03-05-2017 10:25 PM

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Listen to Angelo. It is way cheaper to buy a fast car, than to build one. It is going to cost much more to build. You don't see the track rental money for testing, different tires, gears, converters, transmissions (different gear ratios & builders) etc, bought & tested to find the fastest combination.

SStockDart 03-05-2017 10:53 PM

Re: New To SS Racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 528774)
Listen to Angelo. It is way cheaper to buy a fast car, than to build one. It is going to cost much more to build. You don't see the track rental money for testing, different tires, gears, converters, transmissions (different gear ratios & builders) etc, bought & tested to find the fastest combination.

Completely agree with Ed and others....buy a turn key car. I pulled my 68 Dart out of a salvage yard, no rust but dinged up. Thought it was a good car, and still do because of 4 different engine combinations....I thought I could save money building it and enjoyed doing it. But, thousands on top of thousands of dollars later, It was a terrible financial decision. Whatever "ready to race car" you could buy would easily cost at least cost double to build assuming it is a quality piece. Just my 2 cents

Jim Hanig 03-06-2017 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 528781)
Completely agree with Ed and others....buy a turn key car. I pulled my 68 Dart out of a salvage yard, no rust but dinged up. Thought it was a good car, and still do because of 4 different engine combinations....I thought I could save money building it and enjoyed doing it. But, thousands on top of thousands of dollars later, It was a terrible financial decision. Whatever "ready to race car" you could buy would easily cost at least cost double to build assuming it is a quality piece. Just my 2 cents

Some of us cant come up with 30000.00 when we want to buy a car.Find it easier to spend 500. at a time and find it enjoyable to build the car themselves. I have built 5 cars and never spent close to what most want for there ready to run cars. My 2cents.


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