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charlie westcott 03-17-2017 11:46 AM

NHRA All access sucks
 
Am I doing something wrong, or is this feed terrible. I just emailed the company, which I think is in the Netherlands, and told them all I get is freezes and spinning circles. I have DSL, with Chrome. It works well with any videos I watch, Live feeds from other races, this is a total joke.

Gary Merrick 03-17-2017 11:55 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Charlie,

Mine is working fine, has been all morning.

When I have a problem, I usually get all the way out, restart the machine and try it again. If that does not help, the other thing that works for me when I use Chrome, I go into tools and and under "More Tools", I clear the browsing data which clears all the "cookies", depending on how you have it set. When you do that, it will probably clear a lot of user names and passwords that you have previously saved, so if you do that, be prepared to reset them.

Good Luck,

Gary Merrick
3522 Stock

HR9121 03-17-2017 11:59 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Mine was working fine this morning also using chrome. What Gary said will probably help also. My problem is when they don't have video like yesterday I can't understand the audio sounds like the announcer is talking through a voice synthesizer microphone.

charlie westcott 03-17-2017 12:30 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
I am trying Internet explorer now. I really dont want to reset my passwords, since I dont remember most of them. I may try that at home tonight.
thanks
cw

Don Kennedy 03-17-2017 12:43 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
All Access Works Perfect for me of course I have an outdated old Pontiac Computer and things are just simple just like me .lol ;)

BRETV 03-17-2017 12:45 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Mine has been really good so far this year, alot better than last!





Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

Darrel Goheen 03-17-2017 01:14 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Worked great while I watched.

charlie westcott 03-17-2017 03:33 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Its been running non stop for a few hrs on IEX.
I talked to Bill Miller this morning, he couldnt get his to work either.
thanks
cw

gmeyer 03-17-2017 05:27 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Thanks Charlie
Mine has been doing the same thing.E mailed the tech department and that was a total joke to work with.
greg

Jared Jordan 03-18-2017 10:47 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Mine won't work today and I've tried it on two different devices. Same problem on each: plays about 5 seconds worth of video that sounds like it's at least an hour old and then locks up and stops. Worked better when they first rolled it out last year.

Gary Merrick 03-18-2017 10:56 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Same Here, No Access, went down about an hour ago. Looks like NHRA lost their internet connection cause Live Timing is not working either.

I was watching Yo Ken's live feed on Facebook from the scales, so their is no doubt that the race is continuing.

Gary Merrick
3522 Stock

gmeyer 03-18-2017 11:09 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
And we paid for this ***** what a joke!!!!!!!!!!

ecamp7 03-18-2017 11:21 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
You watch they'll have it ready for the pros... total damn joke. Loved it when all they had was just the audio cast. Free, and worked all 4 days. Instead we pay $15 for half *** **** all weekend. Guess I'm just as stupid for thinking it'd work for a whole event when it never has lol.

John Dinkel 03-18-2017 11:38 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
What a $100 waste. It quits then starts for a while.

Irace007 03-18-2017 12:04 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmeyer (Post 529987)
And we paid for this ***** what a joke!!!!!!!!!!

?.......Is NHRA a part of any Government program,because they sure act like it !

Warren Evans 03-18-2017 01:23 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
We experienced an internet outage that lasted about three hours. AT&T restored service a little while ago and so All Access should be back for you now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

63corvette 03-18-2017 03:23 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Yep, always someone else's fault.
Always need a scapegoat.
Just a Joke on the racers and fans who continue to pay.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Just My 2 Cents
Rick in TX

Darrel Goheen 03-18-2017 05:19 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Not working here either today.

charlie westcott 03-20-2017 09:46 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Evans (Post 530000)
We experienced an internet outage that lasted about three hours. AT&T restored service a little while ago and so All Access should be back for you now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

So ok, you had an outage for 3 hrs. Why does it keep stopping, starting, cant rewind, etc. I know for a fact I am not the only one with the problem. If you could just turn the quality down so I could watch. The way it is now, it wont even work at my house, and here at the shop it is a real struggle. I wasted 30 mins yesterday at least trying to get PS to work. explorer will feed it pretty good, but you cant rewind. Chrome will rewind, but stops literally every 5 seconds. If I need to do something, tell me what it is. Otherwise, I want a refund.
cw

Bryan Worner 03-20-2017 11:02 AM

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It worked on Sunday, imagine that! The Pro eliminations day. I wish NHRA would realize that the majority of the all access customers are sportsman racers! The ONLY reason I purchased it this year, at 25% off of course, was for my girlfriend to watch when she can't be with me. But they would actually have to care.

Pinballer 03-20-2017 11:36 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie westcott (Post 530183)
So ok, you had an outage for 3 hrs. Why does it keep stopping, starting, cant rewind, etc. I know for a fact I am not the only one with the problem. If you could just turn the quality down so I could watch. The way it is now, it wont even work at my house, and here at the shop it is a real struggle. I wasted 30 mins yesterday at least trying to get PS to work. explorer will feed it pretty good, but you cant rewind. Chrome will rewind, but stops literally every 5 seconds. If I need to do something, tell me what it is. Otherwise, I want a refund.
cw

Knowing Warren as I do, I'd beg you not to shoot the messenger, at least he cared enough to go find out what was going on.
He doesn't wear a suit and have an office in Glendora, and he doesn't do what he does for big pay either. It's actually very little. He's an IT guy who does it because he genuinely cares about sportsman racing.
If it was up to him, you'd not only have D3TV which is fabulous for the lucky ones who have friends racing in D3, you'd have D1 thru 7 TV every weekend.

CMcAllister 03-20-2017 12:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecamp7 (Post 529990)
Loved it when all they had was just the audio cast. Free, and worked all 4 days. Instead we pay $15 for half *** **** all weekend.

I loved it too. Was a valuable benefit of being a member. I really don't have time to sit and watch, but would have the audio on all weekend while in the shop. Not happy about them taking that away. Not going to pay $100 just to listen, when it works.

jmcarter 03-20-2017 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinballer (Post 530194)
Knowing Warren as I do, I'd beg you not to shoot the messenger, at least he cared enough to go find out what was going on.
He doesn't wear a suit and have an office in Glendora, and he doesn't do what he does for big pay either. It's actually very little. He's an IT guy who does it because he genuinely cares about sportsman racing.
If it was up to him, you'd not only have D3TV which is fabulous for the lucky ones who have friends racing in D3, you'd have D1 thru 7 TV every weekend.

Thanks for sharing that, I had researched Warren a bit after he responded and saw that he is instrumental in providing D3TV so figured he might be "guilty by association" only. Reminds me of the guff DRC got after they lost a major sponsor and had to cut back on their coverage. Thank you Warren and others who seek to provide support to Sportsman racers in spite of the overarching hierarchy who seemingly are much more focused on selling seats and tee shirts to the the nitro and noise crowd and who will soon migrate to the next big thrill to spend their entertainment dollar on.

Gary Merrick 03-20-2017 02:11 PM

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Let me start out by saying that I am not a computer expert, nor an IT expert. I know how turn the computer on and off and move around a little bit, so take what I say as a matter of my experience and not my knowledge.

When I got "ALL ACCESS" last season, I experienced a lot of the frustration that many folks have experienced the first couple of races this year. Some of the races last year were absolutely horrible as far as what you could see, especially after the PRO's were done for the day. With respect to the outage on Saturday for three hours, I hope that episode will be exception rather than the norm. Before and after the outage, my reception was very good and I really don't have any complaints for the rest of the day or Sunday.

What I would suggest, based on what I did last year, check with your internet provider to find out if your service supports what you are trying to receive. I have Spectrum (old Time Warner) for my provider and on their website they have a "Support" tab and under that they have a "Speed Test", which after running it you can find out how good your connection is and how fast it downloads and uploads. What I found out, and I use a Netgear modem and a Netgear router that on different computers in the house, some will download a lot faster than other computers using that speed test. I would suggest that if you are having problems, then you should talk to your internet provider, ask what speed you are paying for, find out if they have a speed test, run the speed test, and then talk to them what you need to have a positive experience. I am paying for the medium speed and it works fine, when I talked to Spectrum rep (who was very informative and helpful), I asked about upgrading to the fastest speed that they offer and he told me that unless you are a "serious" gamer, that what I have is more than acceptable for what I want to do. The other big question is your computer, when I went from an older Windows 7 machine, to a state of the art HP with Windows 10, it was like going from a 6 second car to a 18 second car (no offense meant to the 18 second cars), but there was no comparison.

In closing, I would say, before you start throwing a bunch of rocks at "All Access", make sure your ducks are in a row with your own equipment. Hopefully, "ALL ACESS" will continue to improve, no-one, including me likes paying for something that does not work.

Gary Merrick
3522 Stock

Rich Biebel 03-20-2017 02:25 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
I bought All Access this weekend. Started watching Saturday morning and after an hour it quit. Other friends were confirming they had the same issue. I shut it off. Went back later in the day and it was fine. Watched quite a bit. Started watching Sunday morning at 8:30. Watched the Sportsman rounds. Shut it off and went back again later in the day. Watched the rest of the event to the end and it was flawless for me. Enjoyed it especially since it was snowing where I live and seeing some racing from Gainesville was a nice change from the snowy and cold March weather here. I have zero complaints and thanked Warren previously on FB.....The announcers also do a far better job on that feed. Just like when we're actually there at the race.

Warren Evans 03-20-2017 03:16 PM

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Let me fill in a few of the blanks here. Yes, I do produce D3TV for NHRA Division 3, which will continue in 2017. I also had an opportunity to work at Phoenix and Gainesville on the NHRA All Access show. NHRA is in the process of filling the position for a full-time operator for All Access, which it looks like they will have starting in Las Vegas. I wanted to do what I could to clean up some things while I was running the show, because I'm a customer too, and have had similar frustrations as all of you. I hope that you all found the sound mix to be better in the last two races since that was something I was focusing on.
As far as Saturday goes, the entire facility experienced a "brownout" that messed up the internet service to the track for about three hours. This not only affected our ability to live stream but it also impacted other parts of racing operations. We were at the mercy of AT&T until they could restore service. I had a smaller cellular-based (Cradlepoint) router with me which we attempted to use to restore at least a limited stream until AT&T was back up. It did not work well enough. At that point, all I could do was to continue to produce the show and record it so it would be available for archiving. It is available on the All Access website now.
I cannot speak for everyone involved in the operation, but the ones I have met do care about the product. I definitely care about the product; it's my reputation on the line and so I take it personally when people say less than favorable things on these message boards. I'm hopeful that most of you were happy with the parts of the production that I had control over, and forgiving of the trouble that I couldn't control.
Thanks - Warren

HR9121 03-20-2017 04:08 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Warren I have a question that you may can answer. On the days that there is no video why is it that the announcers sound like they are using a voice synthesizer microphone? This was the case last year for me also. Thanks for your hard work especially on the D3TV and feel free to move to Division2 if you like!

Warren Evans 03-20-2017 04:27 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
I have not had the opportunity to look at that yet in 2017, but in 2016 I saw it in the tower at Indy and St. Louis. The simple answer is they use different equipment for Thursday audio only than they do on Friday through Sunday. Thursday is pretty simple - a feed out of the PA system into a Livestream encoder box, straight to the internet. The rest of the weekend, it is much more complex and fed to the production truck where it is processed, manipulated, etc before going out. I'm pretty sure it is the same audio setup that was used before All Access, when NHRA offered audio only. Probably didn't notice it as much since there was nothing else to compare it to.

HR9121 03-20-2017 04:57 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Warren Evans (Post 530226)
I have not had the opportunity to look at that yet in 2017, but in 2016 I saw it in the tower at Indy and St. Louis. The simple answer is they use different equipment for Thursday audio only than they do on Friday through Sunday. Thursday is pretty simple - a feed out of the PA system into a Livestream encoder box, straight to the internet. The rest of the weekend, it is much more complex and fed to the production truck where it is processed, manipulated, etc before going out. I'm pretty sure it is the same audio setup that was used before All Access, when NHRA offered audio only. Probably didn't notice it as much since there was nothing else to compare it to.

Thanks for the reply.

charlie westcott 03-22-2017 09:06 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
I wasnt throwing any stones at Warren. Dont know anything about him, I am sure he does a great at what he does, and I am also sure he has little to do with whoever is streaming this service. I sent a question to the provider, Cleeng or something. I can watch all types of videos on my computer, HD movies, Youtube, etc. I have 3 computers here at the shop, all of them are pretty strong since I use them for all my Cad-Cam stuff.
We have DSL with pretty fast service. I did the speed test, I called Frontier to see if my signal was weak, etc. I feel like I have covered the bases. One thing I havent tried yet is my iphone. I heard that plays it better, but I am not a teenager, and am not going to watch the race on my phone. Really all I do is leave in on my second monitor while I work, and watch the stuff I care about. SS and PS.
It would seem like they would use a player that is compatible with current operating systems, and it would be nice if you could choose a lesser quality to make sure it feeds.
That was the last question I asked the streaming place was can I turn down the quality somehow, and their response was watch it the next day.
cw

FED 387 03-22-2017 10:33 AM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Here's an idea. What if 100 or 200 subscribers all contact their credit card company and call to cancel their subscription to All Acess because of failure to provide programming as advertised and the inability for the subscribers to receive the product. Think maybe that might get their attention? You most likely would all have to do it on the same day or days to make an impression on them. Everybody would ask for a refund too since they charged you for the entire season before they provided any services not based on what you are using/used

Ben Holt 03-22-2017 01:52 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
I didn't have a problem with it at all this last weekend. Save for the issues the one morning, which has now been diagnosed as the racetrack wide internet loss. That's understandable.

But I was very happy with the service all weekend. I watched it on my computer here at work, my personal laptop at home, and even on the browser app on my xbox one (I don't have cable, so I can't normally watch the regular broadcasts)

I don't know what the solution for you would be, Charlie. It's a bummer, though.

I have had issues similar to yours before and I've had to update the graphics card's driver. Might be outdated and works fine with other things, but the complexities of this particular streaming service might cause it to go haywire.

I don't know, though, except it seemed to be fine on my end?

Good luck!

340Cuda 03-22-2017 04:15 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Except for the time that the tracks Internet connection was down I had good performance all weekend.

My biggest issues are:

When a problem like the one Saturday comes up it never seems to recover on its own, I have to back out and then reselect the broadcast again to see if its working yet. This often results in getting back on late.

During the "Sportsman only" times poor camera placement and on track sound. The only reason I got the package is to watch Super Stock and Stock and a shot from the rear of the cars leaving the line does not do the experience much justice

I was late signing on this weekend but I think it was the Winternationals broadcast was late starting at least one day.. Guess what at least some of Stock is missed.

Hopefully someone who can do something will see this. My emails to both NHRA and the Dutch group for the best email address to use for customer service questions have gone unanswered.

Bill
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cad 03-23-2017 01:29 PM

Re: NHRA All access sucks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dinkel (Post 529991)
What a $100 waste. It quits then starts for a while.

I got an email 3/14/17 offering me a discount as a NHRA member....

"Your NHRA membership entitles you to 25% off the $99.95 season pass price."

You need the discount code that was sent to you.

Clark


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