Stacking for Vegas
 

Man they sure what you there.Sportsman Stacking Information – Denso Spark Plugs NHRA Nationals – March 31 – April 2, 2017


In an effort to eliminate bottlenecking, confusion, and aggravation, we will be using a number card system at The Strip at LVMS this year for sportsman stacking. Competitors will be given a numbered card, and rigs will be brought into the pits in order based on the number on the cards. As per the NHRA Schedule at: (Click Here for Schedule), stacking for the Denso Spark Plug NHRA Nationals at The Strip begins at 7 a.m., Wednesday, March 29th. Racers who stack prior to the appointed time will be penalized and issued cards starting at No. 101, while those who arrive after the appointed starting time will begin with No. 1. THIS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.

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It just amazes me that LVMS and NHRA treat the customers like this with all the room there is at the LVMS facility.
Another issue is the Petro truck stop where all the racers mob on stacking morning and disrupt for an hour or so all their business.
LVNS could be a better neighbor and just stack as people arrive.
Being retired we usually come early and do things in Las Vegas.
This year I guess we can not come in on the weekend and do that as there are not many places to park a big motorhome and trailer for a few days.
Maybe I am just getting to old for all this. I just do not need the hassles.
That is the reason I skipped the Wild Horse mess this year and I won't be back until that mess is fixed. Maybe never because you can't fix stupid which is what that was in Feb of 2016 and I did not need that again.
Just My 2 Cents
Rick in TX

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I'm getting there next wendsday so i can be number 101.

We have tickets to see the blue man group rm thurs.

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Why would anyone care where they park or what number they are? There isn't a bad pit spot on the property.

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Charlie you are Correct

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Thanks for the reminder Rick. It was a fiasco last fall in Vegas. We had to move 4 times in 3 days. It was ridiculous. Next time we'll stack early and take the 100 card penalty. Very un-accommodating there for sure!

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I know that Jeff Foster is a very good track manager and has the racers concern always

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Vegas is a great track to race at

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I highly recommend that Decision makers in big companies or associations read Books BY Edward Deming , You will understand My Business philosophy



My personal soapbox :rolleyes:

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Exactly - we will arrive Thursday night and pit Friday morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ5ICXMC4xY - 20 seconds is enough.

Ron

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Why did you remove your emotional and philosophical post Don?

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Don, I really believe that you spend toooo much time in that hot, Arizona sun.There is a pizza company nearby that spends quite a bit of money on advertising. They open at 10 am in the morning. If you show up at their door at 8 30 am they would not let you in , you would not be served. Their business and employees open at 10 am....Hard to argue with Papa Johns....or NHRA......

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[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;530012]Don, I really believe that you spend toooo much time in that hot, Arizona sun.There is a pizza company nearby that spends quite a bit of money on advertising. They open at 10 am in the morning. If you show up at their door at 8 30 am they would not let you in , you would not be served. Their business and employees open at 10 am....Hard to argue with Papa Johns....or NHRA......[/QUO


Really this is not a accurate comparison

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There “ were” many companies who spend millions of advertising dollars to get customers to come to their business to spend their money .Each Business has had this story Many customers were waiting outside the business to buy expensive products .it was early morning there were 21 customers all waiting to get into the business to spend their money some were upset cause THEY WERE THERE TO do business and spend their hard earned money,some customers just left never to do business with that company again, but the manager and all the employees were just all trying to ignore the customers who were waiting to get into the business .The manager was ignoring all 21 customers wanting to come into the store . I ask the manager why he did not let the customers in early he said he would not open early for anyone period and was arrogant about it I told him his company has spent millions of advertising dollars to get customers to do business with them why did he then not take Care of them he laughed and said they will have to wait, well many other businesses are out of business as well as Circuit City and now everyone knows why .

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Back in the day, we started to let the waiting customers
in at 7a instead of 8a and within two months picked
up 17% in sales. Can 't hurt to try to make the customer
happy. It worked for us!
Bob

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[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;530012]Don, I really believe that you spend toooo much time in that hot, Arizona sun.There is a pizza company nearby that spends quite a bit of money on advertising. They open at 10 am in the morning. If you show up at their door at 8 30 am they would not let you in , you would not be served. Their business and employees open at 10 am....Hard to argue with Papa Johns....or NHRA......[/QUOT

While I'm not a believer in getting to a race 4 days before event.
The Pizza Co. will let you park in the parking lot until it opens at 10am.

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This should get some flames,

NHRA can spell out the rules on exact time and procedure in parking , but not excessive braking.
Excessive Parking in black and white but not Excessive Braking. Amazing

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[QUOTE=Jeff Stout;530028]Jeff I don't think You can control when other racers
want to go racing >lol

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Bob Good Point successful business recognize and adhere to their customers needs and desires for their own future success A basic Business principle.

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If I was a decision maker at a Drag strip I would encourage my Customers to come early and often . I would have a sponsor for the early parking so the sponsor would pay for the insurance and security guard . I would make it a happening for my early customers . I would make sure that if my early customer had any needs they were taken care of . I would allow them to come in and get a number 24/7 to park your Rigs in a orderly manner into the track also a packet that would answer any questions you may have with goodies in the packet . I would have some volunteers to make sure my customers are taken care of like washing Your rig , servicing your rig or even any repairs to your rig like the generator or at least make sure a phone number is there to call. I would have businesses with discounts at their business during race week . I would make early parking an event and a fun happening . then I would make the racing event a happening also not all the people who are with a racer like racing LOL some wife’s just might like to be entertained with show ,shopping experiencers all this to make sure My customers will come back and soon the word gets out on how My customers are treated and there will be more showing up . this is a basic Promotion 101 not rocker science there are many more ways to make customers happy I have only touched on a few to make my point . I feel some businesses have forgotten how to treat a paying customer and soon there is no money ,no customers and the decision makers wonder why Dud look in the mirror and take Promotion 101 over again in real life .
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[QUOTE=Jeff Stout;530028]"..........""..............OUCH !! This is between Don and myself.......LOL!!!

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I understand. But why post a response and completely delete it? Those were your emotions and feelings at the time, did they change or are you afraid the powers at be from NHRA will see them?

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[QUOTE=Don Kennedy;530032]You correct, you may leave to go to races anytime you would like, but its my property and I can tell you when to come on it if I want to. I do agree with Bob on increase in sales from letting people in early.

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[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;530036]Sorry MR Derby I always disagree with Don (except this morning at breakfast we ordered the same food) but we get along just fine.

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Not afraid .I at first thought a good friend of mine took my comments personal and so I deleted them,and today he called me and said Great comments and so i reposted them

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Most of my commnets are mine and are simply my experience on how to have a huge customer base and satisfaction with a for Profit Company.I have Zero personal agenda Just speaking up for the good of most of the racers not all of them just most of them:D

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OK. Makes sense. You just reposted something different than your original post though.

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They need to offer a class on how to properly quote posts on here. lol

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I will drink to that.....LOL.....

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Last fall, on stacking day, I met up with Team Tom at about 6:45 am. We went down the street about a quarter mile and made a loop thru the industrial park, and sat there waiting, while we were able to see the pit entrance. Of course ,we were going to wait until 1 minute of, and then ease down towards the gate.
At about 6 minutes of, a whole group of racers emerged from the truck stop road, which is directly across from the gate. They had blocked the main road completely, and also the traffic coming down off the exit ramp! Somebody decided to let them in, so we proceeded northbound on the main road, and formed a line on it, not wanting to be pushed back any farther in the numbering sequence. I think we ended up about 30-40 something.
Anyway, first of all everybody knows exactly what time it is from their cell phones.
If I were running things, those guys who blocked the road early, would be rewarded with a warning, and a 100 number card.
Secondly ..It just shows what a sad and sorry thing this early stacking thing has become....in my (firsthand) opinion, of course.

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This has happened at every race so far , this does not have to happened .there is a safe ,orderly way to stack at every track but for some reason The Decision makers do not want early, reasonable, orderly and safe stacking for their customers before the race ,this is my point in my posts.

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Has the idea ever been entertained of pre-assigning pit spaces? I think the NHRA has pit layout maps of all the tracks. Assign everyone a spot when you sign up for the event. No lines, no waiting. Go to YOUR pit spot. Would that be feasible?

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Too easy. Too simple. Makes too much sense. Couldn't possibly work!

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I'd say not,Bob.

The situation has to remain fluid, in MY opinion.

Example 1 , I enter, and am assigned one of the shorter spots for my 48' rig.
I then withdraw at the last minute. My replacement has a stacker, being towed by a full apartment house, @ the max legal length... Now what?

No. 2, Johnny and his son both have pickups and open trailers, so they are assigned side by side ,shorter spots. John Jr. has to withdraw at the last minute. What do we do with that spot now?

No. 3, It rains for three days preceding the Nats. (Columbus) .Some of the previously assigned spaces are now unusable .

Next case....

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My humble opinion, show up when you can and don`t get butt hurt if the line going in changes and isn`t to your liking. This happens every weekend. You can win from ANY pit spot at the track!

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The Hawk is right
Just about everyone will agree with this statement show up when You can ? Is the concern of many >this is the whole point of stacking early reasonable, orderly and safe stacking for their customers before the race ,this is my point in my posts.show up early when you want and can

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Nailed it Lane...............
Ever notice how the ones that whine the most are the ones that never go any rounds on Sunday when it really counts???

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This post or blog has nothing, zero,interest or concerns or subject matter about who does or does not go rounds when a racer is in the pits .The post is about common sense for any racer before they get into the pits,No one is whining The subject is pre race stacking

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Actually we're way over length.