Dodge Challenger -Demon
 

Okay now that Dodge has finally dropped the Demon, what does everybody think? Is the banned from NHRA thing true?

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just needs a cage

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yes, the cage issue is the problem for the 9 sec. runs.
No 5 pt. rollbar in the car is still an issue for the 10.0-11.49 runs

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As a Ford fan, I think the Demon is amazing. Would love to have one.

I love the disclaimer ( circled) :D

http://i66.tinypic.com/nbzoye.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/2chu8mw.jpg

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Dodge's video says Hagerty Insurance is the official insurance company for the Demon.

I can see where very few insurance companies will cover this car for street driving.

Other interesting tidbits....

The car does not come with a passenger or rear seat.
They are options.

The buyer can get either seat for 1 dollar each.
Slick marketing by Dodge :D

http://www.dodge.com/demon.html

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A real racer that buys one of these cars will put a cert. cage in it anyways.

The collectors looking to get one and store it away are not so concerned.

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It would need more than just a roll cage , like trans and flexplate shield , drive shaft loop , window net , five point harness , etc .

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I wonder what rear end is in it? I can't imagine the independent axels would hold up. That thing looks real nice.

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The press release video says banned by nhra. Hmmmm

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IRS in the Demon...41 spline shafts.

I think the Hellcat is 38 spline

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That's one bad SOB even if it is a Dodge lol ! Pulley change cam change someone will have one in the 8's in a few weeks. ! Wonder what Chevrolet will answer with. ?

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I agree.
Absolutely amazing in this day and time that an large automaker could even pull this off. ( with safety regulations, emissions, etc.)

And the way they market it is so much different than in years past.
Most carmakers will never mention drag strip times in their marketing program.

But Dodge gets straight to the point and states that it is the quickest and fastest street legal production ever produced. Gotta love it !

Not bad for a 4,200 pound machine

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And it has a transbrake! And it pulls the front wheels! The list goes on and on, lol. My Hellcat seems a little slow now....
Heck my Drag Pak is 1,000 lbs lighter and only runs 9.40's.



Dennis Breeden

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Everything about it is cool except the flairs, looks horrible with the skinnies on the front.

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^^ I agree.

This looks even more impressive !

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/every...dge-srt-demon/

http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/2...nd%7C660%3A440

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I am still in shock that a car company can sell a street legal car to the public that can pull wheelies, has a transbrake, comes standard with D.O.T. drag radials, only a driver's seat and can move 4200 lbs. to a 9 second 1/4 mile e.t. @ a huge 140 mph.

:D

Wealthy gearheads must be on their phones right now ordering one...

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Anyone know what the sticker on it is?

Eric

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I've read $80K. Anxious to see the added markup. Supposed to be only 3000 units in the US.

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I'd guess that is just a marketing ploy knowing full well (deliberately?) the car is lacking the required safety equipment for the performance capability.

Optional seat choice for a dollar??. Does that also include or drop the required airbags, sensors and belts? Would Haggerty insure a car where the passenger has no required protection? Still attempting to figure out how an F/SA 2016 Challenger is 1,000 lbs less than the one I rented. Do rental cars come with heavy rust proofing?

Just like Cadillac Dodge has come to realize rich folks, and there is a lot more now, want fast cars and are willing to pay. Seems no one wants a Chrysler 200 or a Dodge Dart. (Except those forced into one like Alan Johnson, Deric Kramer, and Alan Prusiensky:-) I remember my 65 year old grandpa, his casual attire was dress shoes, dress pants, dago tee and a cigar to go along with his big, slow, boat of a Caddy he purchased after retirement. Go to a cruise night now and it is loaded with 75 year old guys in gym shoes, cargo or jean shorts, tee shirts and $75,000 plus fast cars. Sure Dodge will sell them all with the right colors.

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A buddy ordered one said 70k but I saw in an article Msrp 50,920 so I'm not sure what that was .

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To me this is history with the release of this car.
Over top for sure.
It has everything that shouldn't be in a production car.
Also carries the 6/6000 powertrain warranty, even when it is in 100 octane mode.
FCA has out done itself.
I wonder, was it like this when the '68 HEMI Dart/Barracuda was released?

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That is pretty cool. Drag Radials, Trans Brake and Line Lock with 6/60 warranty. Why didn't they have these when I worked for Chrysler? I thought it was cool to drive one of the first Vipers....snooze!

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Hard core Chevy guy here... I have to say this the first time I have ever thought about buying a Fiat! :p (I kid!)

What a cool car. They did a super job pushing the envelope.

With only 3000 cars for North America my guess is this will be every bit 100k to own one.

I really hope Chevy and Ford answer Dodge's shots fired but I don't see it happening.

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so the disclaimer sez no baby wheelie on public roads
it does have a electronic system which saves data from both mode's
the hype created by marketing is doing its job
does warranty cover vehicle abuse
will liabilty insurance cost more than a million dollar super car
are nitto's made in america
and what does the NHSA have to say
what is the crash data on this pkg

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I know a young Chrysler engineer that has several 1/4 mile passes in one of the pre production Demons!

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That must be exciting to be part of the group that developed that car.

It most certainly is an amazing car the likes of which we might not see again if the insurance industry decides that they want nothing to do with it.

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NHRA/SFI must have know about this project with last year's implementation of 25.6 sfi specification. All prior specs have a 3600# max but 25.6 is 5000# ;) ok so the new spec was for heavier vehicles such as diesel trucks with 1200 HP and the likes but at least there's an option. Wonder how much different from the 25.5c?

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That NHRA letter is from November and they are just releasing it now, five months later?

3000 is a lot, anyone know how that compared to the numbers of new GT350 Mustangs or ZL1 Camaros?

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Being a forced induction combination, Im not sure it would change enough to put it in back in the tens in average air.

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Looking at the video, the track looked like and is ENGLISHTOWN, in New Jersey.

Bob Lasko

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Not only that, but also driving the wrong way down the track.

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They were at both tracks.

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From what I've seen of the cobra jets they seem to be exponentially better and exponentially worse with DA numbers. Event to event you can get a handle on one but I've seen same car swing .5 or more through the year.
The bigger the blower the more it's gonna move on ya. I was referring to a 4.0 Whipple above so maybe the 2.9 has a smaller window. Bottom line is when you take in great air you can really pack it in there and when the atmosphere isn't so generous the boost is way down. I think the marketing people know what their doing on the numbers. Disappointments ahead ;)

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I cannot say for sure about a super charged car but I have a couple old Turbo Buicks and the colder the day the faster they go. The limiting factor being the cold track and I think they had that track glued for a fuel car. The car is very impressive but I don't think you will see those times with the average rich kid owning it and a hot day.

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Fords 7 liter is coming BE AFRAID VERY AFRAID

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I sure hope so.

For now, the most powerful street legal Ford you can buy new with a warranty is the Roush Stage 3 @ 670 hp.

But then again, it is not a production line built car.

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As far as the safety requirements, the average guy that drives one of these to the track and runs pump gas is probably going to run low 10s and have no issues.
Bill