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Why does Denver have a small 17 Super Stock field ?

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They also have only 32 cars in Stock.

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All I can say is,......obviously you have never been there......

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Help a brother out. Please explain?

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they make you park about a 1/2 mile past the finish line, your car overheats by the time you get to the staging lanes

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The last time I was there, i would go to the far side of the staging lanes when the called the Top Alcohol Dragster so my car would be cool by the time they called Stock. Why they put the cars that can't be towed far away and the ones who can be towed close.

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This event seems to be getting less and less entries as the years pass,is it altitude ,long tow for some,that area has alot more racers than showing,,a div. has 4 times more car count.Sad to see

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My comments: John Bandimere & crew deal with a small mountain-side track squeezed between Red Rocks amphitheater and the Interstate, it is a linear layout pushing Lucas Oil cars to the far north end of the facility, which is ground up asphalt/volcanic dirt-rocks, and space shared by a holding area of portable potties and vehicles renting space

Although it is far away, at a Divisional you can cheat the speed limit and hit a crest about mid track and coast the rest of the way to head of staging, BUT at the Nationals, the pros shove the rigs almost into the road, add barriers and people walking, it is very difficult to navigate.

I believe the track is totally geared toward the pros at the Mile-Highs, and plenty of signals have been sent that LODRS cars are not ESP welcome. Add altitude and lowered car performance, and for me difficulty adapting to thin air for 3-4 days, dry nose etc.

Finally, at a track where I have won twice, runner up twice, and enjoy the urban amenities as well as running up the mountain sight-seeing, a fairly easy tow, I will not go back...the last two times my low HP car will not hook, even with the decreased HP....I think the MINIMUM we racers ask is a safe track ( it is ) and that it hook

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I have been racing at Bandimere for 30 years and have never had a problem with overheating on my way to the staging lanes. No track is perfect and the Mile Highs is one of the neatest races you'll ever attend. Granted this is my home track and I may be biased, but pitting in the weeds in Dallas, the mud at several other tracks and going uphill to the staging lanes and battling the constant headwind in Topeka is no better, not to mention pitting essentially outside the track in St Louis. I can name problems with several other tracks as well. There are some tracks definitely better than others and Bandimere is yes challenged for space but there is nothing wrong with the track or the racing. Support Stock and Super Stock racing no matter what the circumstances. More racing and less criticizing!

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It may be a small field but look at the final three. Jenkins, Rampy and Fletcher. I don't know how many National events Jenkins has won but the other two have 195. Worth the price of a ticket to see how this plays out.

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Well said Ted, spot on! :)

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I have not raced in Denver since my wife refused to go back. Parking a quarter mile past the last turn out. No facilities, no water and a mile to the starting line.......only to go slow. Tell me, with my car, would you rather tow 600 miles to go 10.50 in Denver or tow 600 miles and go 9.50 in Sonoma (and have some NAPA Valley wine), and virtually no contingency for either one. Lol

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Sure as the seasons pass.. The days and months come and
go and the days of our lives slip away... there is the yearly
bandimere speedway/ Denver bashing thread. Dog lover being the author this
particular year. Ted I think this a fine defense of our home
track and well said. Our track at has also been in the same
family for what 60 years ?? Through many challenges and
changing times . Thanks Bandimere speedway for still
provding a track for us to race at.
Great first post Ted. Thanks.

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Being my first national event this weekend I'd like to point out a couple of things for the bashers out there , the people who run this track are great folks that simply hand the keys to NHRA so any complaints I feel should be directed there , I've run my car at bandimere for 15 years and can honestly say I've never been that busy before so the down time waiting for pros was a non issue I think we have a good base of local stockers here that are proud of our home track and it's a privilege to do what we do

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It looked like all the West Coast Mopars went to Seattle instead of Denver for the Mopar Nationals.

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You guys sure get a little TESTY when a poor innocent fan like Mr dog lover asks a simple question inquiring why only 17 superstockers show up at a National event where the metropolitan area is the 21st largest in the USA.....Of the 17 cars entered in Superstock only 5 are actually from Colorado ?? WTF. .?? Wow, .....not quite sure all the locals think that this is such a wonderful race to attend ......

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And only 9 of the 17 were from division 5.

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I wonder if the low car count numbers in SS from colorado
may have to do with things other than the track perhaps ?

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Okay, tell us about the "other" things.

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Bandimere is my home track and I have not been there once this year. A lot of racers in Co. be it S/SS guys our the fast street cars- like mine are not happy about the management of Bandimere! The track manager does not like spending a lot to prep and they just run events poorly. The last street car deal I went 2, it took 9 hours between the 2 passes I got. Its like that all the time here. I hate taking my family because there are no permanent restrooms, no shade to speak of. How many women want to use a porta potty? Let alone small children. Management caters to bracket racers because thats there cash cow. Beautiful track but its lacking a ton! My 2 cents!

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It is same weekend as Div 7 Divisional Race.....Before that it had a pretty
good size group of racers from out west there.

It is very tough to compete in Class when your car is 190 from the back
pit drive and your opponent is pitted at edge of staging lanes!

Last time I went.... I tried to tow from my pit to my opponents pit and
came very close to getting a years suspension from racing.

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Golly where to start with this......

D5 S/ SS are aging unfortunately.. A cool SS/H /IA black camoro was
absent... Owners getting older ... Not in the best of health..

A real fast Cool, clean SS/BM Olds Calais was sold and went to Kansas..

Contingency money for class, or national win way down from what it was
20 years ago...

Entry fees way up...

In 1996 when I ran my first national event. You first earned a grade
point. Then ordered entry forms. They would come in the mail. Different
color for each national event. You filled it out, mailed it in. Was kinda
exciting.

Class eliminations used to be much easier to win..

Around the year 2000 you could show up, win class, and recover
a fair amout of in contingency money.

You felt kind of welcome and appreciated.

There was that race in Sonoma...

Like so many things there are usually many reasons...

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To expand on Randy's post. The black super stock camaro was not entered this year on my decision. With my wife being run over by a car earlier this year, my time is taken up be the numerous doctor appointments and therapy. I simply could not take the amount of time off needed for this event. The owner wanted to go and is in fact building a new engine for the car.

I have pitted in the "North Forty" every year attending the Mile highs's. I do coast alot to get to the lanes and with that have never gotten the car over 150. In fact I have gotten the car hotter going to the lanes at Topeka than Denver, and based on my scooter odom its longer at Topeka than Denver from the north Forty.
Is the Denver pit area dirty in the north? yes it is, and you do get the feeling that you are not part of the event. However, I still love going to this race.
Is the altitude the problem? maybe, It think of going slower as more track time. ( LOL ).
Are the crowds a pain getting to the lanes?, yes but no worse than Phoenix.
Did scheduling cause a lack of entries this year? probably with D7 and D3 (although postponed) at the same time, plus weather forecast.

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While this is part of the western swing for the pros, perhaps another time when the weather is suitable temp wise would work?

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Henry, sorry to hear about so many health challenges for you
and your wife. Thankfully not worse, hopefully she continues to heal. Sounds like Verle still full
of enthusiasm and hopefully we see the great looking familiar black
camaro back at Bandimere Speedway soon. It was definately missed.
Oh how I remember that nice hill at Topeka in the lanes on the way up to
the drag strip. With tose staging lanes down in that hole.. LOL..

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LODRS at Topeka has plenty of Stock and S/S showing up to race. 93 stock and 55 S/S made the first qualifying run. Looks like the answer is that racers just do not like the Denver National event.

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Why is it so hard for people to understand that most don't like the place and especially the management!

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This horse has been beat to death. Sportsmen (and wives) do not go because you are so far from the starting line and zero facilities.
In all fairness to Bandimere, this happens once a year. All other races, ya park on asphalt.