AHFS info for INDY
 

This is from the NHRA Competition Web Page:

"Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals Super Stock and Stock Runs Excluded From Automatic Horsepower Factoring System


As a reminder, the Automatic Horsepower Factoring system will not be used during this year’s Chevrolet Performance U.S. Nationals. As a result, runs made by Super Stock and Stock competitors at any time during the event will not count towards class averages, nor will they be used to trigger index or horsepower adjustments.



The AFHS will remain in effect for all other NHRA Mello Yello Series national and Lucas Oil Series divisional events."


NHRA didn't address runs of 1.20 under, which is part of the AHFS system, and state if that portion of AHFS was also suspended.

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Hi Bob, I think that this addresses it. But, I'm far from fluent in NHRA-speak.

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Hi Billy,

That's why I posted this............

I don't speak NHRA either.....

But, on the other hand this follows a fine tradition, of the NHRA, of not specifying exactly what they mean......

Thanks,
Bob

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Isn't that what this means? -

"...nor will they be used to trigger index or horsepower adjustments"

Sometimes what they say is exactly what they mean. There is no AHFS in effect for Stock or Super Stock, for any run, during the Indy Nationals. Let the chips fall where they may!

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Mulry,

I've known you for something on the order of thirty-five or forty years and at no time, under any imaginable circumstances would I characterize your status as "suitably humbled!" The sight of that statement over your signature only makes me wonder what chicanery is working its way through your consciousness this time? What's going on?

Highest regards,

c

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Chuck, I haven't known Bob for THAT long .It only seems like it.
I do know, that if he makes a statement, you need to look at it from the top, bottom, both sides, then flip it over.

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Do ya really think that all the run data will be deleted?

Seems close to the DREAMEr/DACA immigrants situation, we'll see.

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This is why you never show them all you have. It's not worth the worry!

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Sean this is a sincere question not being a smart azz. If you don't run it all out at Indy then what do you save it for? It's the pinnacle of our sport and you want to show all your competitors all over the country what you got. Just asking the question not judging. Good luck at Indy.

PS if nhra used Indy data to hit combos going back on their word it would be bs

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Let 'em rip at Indy.



Sean how are you doing after your crash at Mission? Hope you are doing well.

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Ed, it would be highly presumptuous of me to make a response on behalf of a highly respected racer such as Sean Cour (or anyone else in the Cour family) but I can share the perspective of some other successful racers that I've known over the years. Most of their philosophies of Stock/Super Stock racing have roots that reach much farther back than the modern version of the AHFS but some of the reasoning is still applicable.

Val Hedworth and Paul Dilcher were masters at sitting on the last tenth or two of any car's potential for as long as it took (sometimes a season or more) to mislead an unwary competitor into a critical mistake at a critical point in eliminations. I recall a night in 1972 at a Stock/SuperStock combo at KilKare Raceway in Xenia, Ohio, when Val played that card in the final round against a legitimately legendary figure in the sport. "You came all the way from the west coast and I came all the way from the east coast, What do you say, let's just make this round a no break-out run?" We kept that time sip under glass for years!

Likewise, racing Cal Method in a head's-up pairing is like trying to draw to an inside straight flush. Anyone who thinks they've seen everything that Cal has brought to the show, is in for a shock when the scoreboard lights up.

These racers would NEVER compromise the basic tenet, "Don't drag your d--k in the dirt for the sake of boosting your ego." Qualifying position is great but the paycheck for that day's work is difficult to cash.

Those are only a handful of such racers that I have known. There are plenty more out there and some of them are probably pitted only a few feet away.

I agree to some degree with your statement that Indy is the "pinnacle of the sport" but I would add a single word. How about "WINNING Indy is the pinnacle of the sport" and if holding a tenth in qualifying could potentially provide an edge at some point in eliminations, wouldn't it be worth it? And, if you don't need that edge on that particular day, you still have it in your pocket.

Highest regards,

c

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Chuck, that was one of the greatest post for a class racer to think about. Well said and documented.

Now where did I put that tenth that I need now. Heck I wish i could find the three tenths that I misplaced.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA it's only a tenth

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Agreed: It's the red flag that is of concern.

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Good points Chuck. I was in no way criticizing Mr. Cour just want his perspective on it.

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Nor was I intending to criticize anyone's point of view or put words in Sean's mouth. After all, that's Brian's role.

When it's all said and done, having a personal perspective is about the only thing we can be guaranteed these days and the more of them that are shared, the more likely it is that logical decisions will come forth.

Rock on!

c