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skills 09-29-2017 11:59 AM

Dodge Demon
 
I have a question to ask of the community. Is the Demon in the guide? Has anybody ordered one strickly for racing yet? Wonder if it would be a competitive car.

David Lee 09-29-2017 02:06 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
its basically a 71 duster

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skills 09-29-2017 02:19 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Sorry, i meant the new Challenger Demon.

jmcarter 09-29-2017 02:58 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Not in the guide, but advertised HP of 800 (not necessarily what they would submit to NHRA) would make for one one heavy behemoth...even in FSS/A trim I can't imagine it being competitive...

Dave Gantz 09-29-2017 10:15 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 546450)
Not in the guide, but advertised HP of 800 (not necessarily what they would submit to NHRA) would make for one one heavy behemoth...even in FSS/A trim I can't imagine it being competitive...

Imagine how much weight would be on the back tires!

mikeloge 09-30-2017 02:41 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
I'm thinking the demon is not drag pac so would run regular stock classes they may have to make new class like AAA/SA

Don Dimeler 10-01-2017 10:44 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
While at local Dodge dealer two weeks ago a salesman told me they have 5 deposits. I was shocked that 5 were on order from Waldorf, Md. Gave salesman my number and asked him to call me when one comes in, should I hold my breath?

HR9121 10-01-2017 11:04 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
When the Hellcat came out my Father-in-law decided he just had to have one. Alk the dealers in our area wanted 5-10k over invoice so he searched around and found one in Virginia Beach and just paid the invoice. Wouldn't be surprised if the dealers do the same on these if the demand is high enough.

Dyno 10-01-2017 11:26 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Dodge made over 12,000 2016 Hellcats. After the big demand for the 2015's, and big dealer markups and profits, Dodge over produced and over estimated total cars needed. Last winter in the Mpls./St. Paul area, there were 96 unsold Hellcats in stock at local dealers. Last week i checked local supply and prices and there was a dealer offering a new 2016 Hellcat at $13,000 off sticker. Dodge is going to make 3000 Demons for US sale and 300 for Canada, one year only and some claim to have gotten them for MSRP, but most are marked up. I do not think the Demon will make it to the NHRA guide.

bigshow2966 10-01-2017 12:30 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Pearl Dodge in Peotone, IL sold their Demon within 15 minutes of being able to take orders. It sold for sticker, and the guy checked every possible option box. $100K out the door. The number of Demons a dealer gets was based off how many Hellcats they sold.

They just sold their last 2016 Hellcat. It sat for over a year and went for $10K off list. As soon as the rumor of the Demon hit, Hellcat sales tanked.

Coleydog 10-01-2017 12:46 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 546471)
Imagine how much weight would be on the back tires!

Not positive but from what I've heard, the Demon is MUCH lighter than a regular Challenger. I've heard anywhere between 3300 to 3450, all the heavy stuff was left out, or taken out, one of the reasons NHRA mandates a cage.
Might be all wrong, just what I heard from some "factory" people at Carlisle this summer.
Mike

Myron Piatek 10-01-2017 02:12 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Demon articles still put the shipping weight between 4,200-4,300. While Chrysler did save a couple of hundred pound by removing some odds & ends, it still has a LOT of weight that's required for it to be street legal.

Coleydog 10-02-2017 01:01 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
A lot of difference between "street legal" and race, as we know. Take out the 200 air bags and the nose anti whiplash device, it'll be a few pounds lighter. It'll be interesting to see what Fiat will list as the shipping weight, if they are even raced, at $85,000+ a pop.
Mike

larrylomascolo 10-02-2017 12:33 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
So you cant class race it,you cant insure it for street,A$100,000 bracket car ??? 9.50,s off lot Boy Toy

bry-war 10-02-2017 01:36 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Currently there's no sfi cage rated for these cars. 25.6 has the weight but is geared towards diesel trucks. So I guess you could remove the supercharger and go slower than sfi required et.

Rory McNeil 10-02-2017 02:40 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bry-war (Post 546630)
Currently there's no sfi cage rated for these cars. 25.6 has the weight but is geared towards diesel trucks. So I guess you could remove the supercharger and go slower than sfi required et.

??????????
Any chassis shop should be able to fabricate a SFI legal roll cage for this or any other car.

bry-war 10-02-2017 03:08 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 546640)
??????????
Any chassis shop should be able to fabricate a SFI legal roll cage for this or any other car.

All current sfi tags are 3600# MAX with the exception of 25.6. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Frito 10-02-2017 08:34 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by larrylomascolo (Post 546622)
So you cant class race it,you cant insure it for street,A$100,000 bracket car ??? 9.50,s off lot Boy Toy

It CAN be insured for the street

Greg Hill 10-02-2017 09:28 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Dodge has an insurance deal for the folks who buy one.

Rat Raceway 10-02-2017 09:45 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 546676)
Dodge has an insurance deal for the folks who buy one.

The guy I know with one on order was given a quote of $850 a month at 55 years old and a clean driving record... (He is still buying it!)

Coleydog 10-03-2017 01:34 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ then more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. To some, pocket change.
Mike

goinbroke2 10-03-2017 06:57 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Like coleydog said, it's just a first world problem. If I have more $$ than I know what to do with, then here is some avenues to help facilitate "spreading the wealth".

Will never be an issue I have to worry about but good on those who were able to get there.

340Cuda 10-03-2017 09:41 AM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 546681)
The guy I know with one on order was given a quote of $850 a month at 55 years old and a clean driving record... (He is still buying it!)

To quote Smokey Robinson:

"My mama told me, you better shop around"

Floyd Staggs 10-03-2017 12:50 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
Have You looked at the new Camaro ZL1 1LE?
MSRP 71 K, dealer Mark up 20 K, 91 K for a hot rod.

Mike Schwartz 10-03-2017 10:12 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
If it's too heavy for Stock, why not make a class for it in Super Stock with a lower factor?

Coleydog 10-04-2017 03:04 PM

Re: Dodge Demon
 
IF, someone was thinking of this route, a Hellcat would be much cheaper way to go and still be making as much power. Dealers are knocking $13,000 off sticker to sell what's on the lot.
Mike


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