Personal indexes for s/superstock
Since comp has this rule in place why doesn't NHRA make the same for super stock and stock, this would help a lot of the low budget teams compete, and would also help the car count. Seems like a great idea....
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nhra doesnt want to help the car count. they only take 65 cars for stock&ss at most natl events. they probably would like to cut back rather than want more.
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Seems like racing socialism to me. How about NO! |
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No
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I need a quiet spot and a puppy.
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If I understand PI's properly, a car in the same class still runs Heads-Up,
and we are not trying to run farther under against different classed car's, we are trying to run our dial under. I must be missing how this social handout helps the underprivileged. J.R. |
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With a personal index system in place, then all the IHRA cars could come in too. LOL.
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First thing that needs to done before adjusting HP or Index, see if the car is legal! Fuel and weight is not enough to affect others.
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There might be something about this issue. Fox Sports has spent time focusing on the Comp classes during their national coverage.. Old, new and rails and funky combos. Similar transition like S/SS(Dime Rockets front and center). Might be a good new and profitable direction for all.
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All the Comp guys I know think its as stupid as hell. We already know trying to explain our classes is hard, wait till we would have to try and explain why 2 J/SA cars running each other was no longer a heads up. As was mentioned, just like socialism.....
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we already have the option of personal indexes in Stock and SuperStock
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NO. (...and the "S" does NOT stand for snowflake.)
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So your car would have a personal index like a bowling handicap? Then why ever work on your car? Sounds like socialism to me.It may help the low budget team, but its also a slap in the face for those who work hard and spend money they sometimes don't have to be competetive.
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Uh, no...
This coming from someone who is .40+ behind the fast guys... I'd rather keep picking at it and driving my a** off when I have to. |
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That would make me start playing golf.
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Oh by the way what happens when I sell my .8 under car and the buyer can only go .5? Does he get to adjust his index back to a lower number? NHRA can't keep up now, can't imagine them doing anything like this. |
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Bam! ( That's the sound of the mic drop) |
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I think not!! I'm not sure of the comp guys take, but their car count numbers are not improving. I don't know if the P I has anything to do with it, sounds like a poor idea to me.
Ernie Neal SS 354 |
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No!
There are actually guys who can not run under these indexes? |
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Since It worked so well for comp??
Let's go the other way and run off the national record. You run under, you're the new record holder and come apart. It's a performance based eliminator, some people seem to forget that. Put up or shut up! And while we're at it the quotas are 65 cars let's, have it a 64 qualified field. 1 car doesn't qualify and you have a 6 round race. no bye runs. |
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64 = 6 rounds
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PERSONAL INDEX=POOR IDEA Right on ERNIE! If they make it a 64 car qualified field, AHFS would getfixed pretty darn quick, AND they could open the quota up to 80 cars FREE MONEY! Half back if you don't qualify :O and still have a limited amount of rounds ( controllable, profitable and we would all know how fast each other is!) I would still go even if I was only a tenth or two under! |
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After a long departure from racing and now racing a stocker, it has been an intetesting learning curve.
Class racing has changed a bunch. LOL. Whats stock in a Stocker? Not much I found out! They are more like SS cars. SS cars with hood scopes are more like the old Modified Production or Comp cars. One thing has not changed, the more money you spend and the harded you work at it, the faster your combination will go. This will never change. Consider a separate FS eliminator, all 2008 and newer cars. 128 field for Stock/SS combined eliminator, 2007 and older cars. All non OEM hood scoop cars in to Comp eliminator W/ a new rev limited option class ( to attempt to control costs) and they must be driven up and back. All of this could reduce the car counts in stock and SS allowing more competitors to enter. Factory Showdown guys get what they want. The Stocker guys get those 8.0 cars out of the eliminator. The Comp guys get more cars and maybe just save the eliminator. The new class that has some cost controls ( 80K Comp engines costs are a bit over the top). And if the guys with Modified Cobalts etc don't see Comp as an option, put a flat hood on it and race SSGT Just my perspective as to a way forward. Would there be more winners than losers? Steve Teeter. STK H/SA 6380 |
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Why not leave things as they are and just show up and race?
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These indexes are SO soft, if you have put something together that can't run well under the index, you need to be testing at home figuring out why your so slow. Not expect NHRA to make rule changes to just make you immediately competitive without the work the rest of us have put in our cars. It's not just money. That is et brackets. You can do that at home.
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" It's not just money. That is et brackets. You can do that at home."
For a lot less money and better pay back. The index is par and you want to see how far under you can get. The challenge is the thing. |
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What about the low budget teams that try but can't qualify for Indy, they must all be dumb right,,,,,,
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Indy is always show and tell. Like the the sign stated “Go fast or go home”. You will know when your ready fo Indy.
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Guys you DO not want this in S/SS. The rich get richer in this format. They get to qualify off the original index even if they havelost 15 hun.. So they still qualify off the original it allows them to qualify on a 15 hun slower index and you know that is a 75+ under car. In comp it skews the qualifying order which changes the run sheet. If you want to fix S/SS and comp take index awy where the fast guys will have to run their stuff out then you will have a better system. Who cares if everyone can run 1.5 seconds under. The fast cars turn it up when they need to..
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Is there a contest for worst idea of the year on class racer? If so I would like to nominate this post.
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You know I'm still new to class racing. And my car is slow. And this would probably benifit me. Im still against it. I like everybody else. Knew what I was getting into. Will I be fast one day. Only time will tell. But taking something away from the other guys to make it easier for me to be competitive. Will never be the way I will want to do it. I'd rather keep chipping away at it little by little. So IF or when I do get there I will know I earned it. And it wasn't just given to me to help car counts.
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Socialism for Class Racers!
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no way ! right now im not the fastest car in my class so I have a goal to work forward to, if I have my own index why would I work to go faster it means nothing!
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