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brian schuetta 11-09-2017 11:34 AM

70 1/2 z/28
 
Just looking for opinions on this guys. Someone came to me with pictures of a barn find 70 1/2 Z/28. It looks like an unmolested car except for a paint color change by the dealer in the 70s. I have yet to see a picture of the cowl tag and yes I have requested it. Asking price is $7500. I want to see it this weekend. Any opinions on price or experience with these cars? Its a 12-bolt car with a stick shift, forget the miles.

Eric Merryfield 11-09-2017 11:48 AM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 549386)
Just looking for opinions on this guys. Someone came to me with pictures of a barn find 70 1/2 Z/28. It looks like an unmolested car except for a paint color change by the dealer in the 70s. I have yet to see a picture of the cowl tag and yes I have requested it. Asking price is $7500. I want to see it this weekend. Any opinions on price or experience with these cars? Its a 12-bolt car with a stick shift, forget the miles.

Does it have all its original stuff? IE LT1 motor, aluminum intake, the rims, M-21 or M-22? Even though all I have now is mopars I loved my 70 m22 Z28. Nice driving car. If its # matching could be a great buy, and a fun multi year restoration project to put it back to its original color, etc. The 70's will never, ever be worth what the 67-69 Zs are worth, but the parts and finish parts can be just as hard to find and $ to snag.

Good luck!

Eric

Isaac Zane 11-09-2017 11:54 AM

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Keep the updates coming on this car. I had a 70 1/2 RS/SS back in the late 70's early 80's. I would like to have one again!

Dan Fahey 11-09-2017 12:03 PM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 549386)
Just looking for opinions on this guys. Someone came to me with pictures of a barn find 70 1/2 Z/28. It looks like an unmolested car except for a paint color change by the dealer in the 70s. I have yet to see a picture of the cowl tag and yes I have requested it. Asking price is $7500. I want to see it this weekend. Any opinions on price or experience with these cars? Its a 12-bolt car with a stick shift, forget the miles.


No doubt a no rust car.. wow !
That was one powerful car which gave the BB's a hard time.

D

Coleydog 11-09-2017 12:37 PM

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Red with black stripes auto, setting in my uncles dealership wash bay. Been waiting for a 68 Hemi Charger to be traded in (4 months) bought Z28 instead, $3100. Kept it for five years then sold it for $3300. With headers the best it ran was 14.20s, BF Goodrich radials would hook well. Starter brushes, tires and brakes only thing I replaced in 80,000 miles. Enjoyed the car very much. I was the third owner in a little over a year, 3000 miles

brian schuetta 11-09-2017 01:28 PM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
It has an open element chrome air cleaner, Holley, and Chevy aluminum intake. I again told him I want the cowl tag picture before I go see it.

Tim H 11-09-2017 02:33 PM

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Even if it is a clone, I would be all over that one if it is still solid. In Canada that is really cheap for that car and they rarely ever come up for sale here.
Man I wish had kept my 70 1/2 RS.

Alan Nyhus 11-09-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 549401)
It has an open element chrome air cleaner, Holley, and Chevy aluminum intake. I again told him I want the cowl tag picture before I go see it.

Brian, the original air cleaner would be a dual snorkel unit...black base/snorkels and a chrome air cleaner lid with the 350 360h.p. decal.

Hope it's a good original car. :) -Al

David Lee 11-09-2017 03:53 PM

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i would have my radar up on what he is asking for the car. that year camaro is worth way more than $7500

Bob Don 11-09-2017 06:06 PM

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I think you should pass on it and tell ME where it is. I'll buy it!

larrylomascolo 11-09-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus (Post 549405)
Brian, the original air cleaner would be a dual snorkel unit...black base/snorkels and a chrome air cleaner lid with the 350 360h.p. decal.

Hope it's a good original car. :) -Al

Al..........would the intake have the winters foundry stamp, and i,d buy the car fast be for its gone ,,thats a score .

Alan Nyhus 11-09-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by larrylomascolo (Post 549439)
Al..........would the intake have the winters foundry stamp, and i,d buy the car fast be for its gone ,,thats a score .

Yes, it will have the Winters 'snowflake' on the #1 intake runner. Intake casting number will be either 3972110 or 3972116. -Al

brian schuetta 11-10-2017 09:26 AM

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Did these cars have finned valve covers? This one has them but I haven't seen a picture from the top.

Alan Nyhus 11-10-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 549476)
Did these cars have finned valve covers? This one has them but I haven't seen a picture from the top.

Yes...finned aluminum valve covers. Pay particular attention to the front face of the cylinder heads.

https://i.imgur.com/cL0jyYa.jpg

brian schuetta 11-10-2017 02:32 PM

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From the pictures the heads look like camel humps.

Rich Biebel 11-10-2017 08:02 PM

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The early double hump heads do not have accessory holes or those flat areas. After 1969 they do. Don’t know the correct casting number but it’s pretty easy to get that info and check the heads. Intake definately should be the hi rise GM aluminum. Jerry McNeish is the man to talk to about the authenticity of that car.

Dwight Southerland 11-11-2017 08:54 AM

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Correct casting numbers for the heads will probably be 186 or 041. Possibly 414, as there are some claims they were used in production, though historical evidence says they were produced a few years later as replacement castings.

Stan Hawes 11-11-2017 12:23 PM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
Mick Alley from Boise, Idaho raced a 70 1/2 in stock eliminator a few years ago.
It was a fast car.

Jerry Mc Nish is at www.camarohiperf.coom. he is the most knowageable Camaro exoert
there is, and is a very nice guy.

You might want to check with the Emmons boys in Pasadena,Texas.
They own Emmons Motor Co..

Logus 11-12-2017 12:54 AM

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Second Gen Site,

http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro70.html

Frank Castros 11-15-2017 06:30 PM

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I knew a guy who bought one new back in the day and it was a way cool light green with black stripes and stupid fast. I love those cars.

Dave Gantz 11-15-2017 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 549836)
I knew a guy who bought one new back in the day and it was a way cool light green with black stripes and stupid fast. I love those cars.

Oh yeah. I knew a guy who put headers, 5.13's and slicks on his and went mid 12's. Had the Lakewood "half a hoop" (?) rollbar, too.

David Lee 11-15-2017 10:01 PM

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There was another gentleman from the New Orleans (I think his name was Mike) that raced one of these. He was freinds with Jeff Ferguson

Rich Biebel 11-16-2017 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 549836)
I knew a guy who bought one new back in the day and it was a way cool light green with black stripes and stupid fast. I love those cars.

A friend we raced with around 1970 bought a Yenko Deuce after selling his '69 Z/28 racecar.

The Yenko had the same engine as the 70 Camaro Z/28 350/360 or 370 HP rating....

That Yenko went 12.5 or better driven to the track with steep rear gears, slapper bars and headers. Had big Pro Trac tires on it on the street.

Engine broke with not a lot of miles on it......Dealer where he bought it refused to warrantee it......engine was piled in the trunk, what a mess.........Wallace Chevrolet, Linden N.J.

I put a 302 in the Yenko from the '69 Z and it was sold for around $3000....and it was maybe a year old.....

Was probably the most fun car I ever drove on the street and the 302 was every bit as fast as the 350 since it was a blueprinted race motor......

Dirk Olson 11-16-2017 11:47 AM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
Wife's cousin has one, green with a dark green vinyl roof, hounds tooth interior owned it since 73 unmolested has not been run for 5 years did the carb on it last year. They are fast. Help me out here but I believe it would be a C/D car. soft index and just a guess cannot be more than just a couple running in the country with a stick.

Dirk
A/S

henrys57wagon 11-16-2017 04:11 PM

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Two of my friends went together to a Chev dealer in Ottawa, ON, Canada and both ordered 70 z28's, both 4sp. One has not driven the car many many years and the other fellow died some years ago and his wife drives it a few times a year.

brian schuetta 11-17-2017 09:51 AM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
So the latest is that there is a twist in the story. The guy sending pictures to me isn't the owner but someone selling it for the owner. So the $7500 price has this guys cut in it. I didn't connect with him last weekend as planned. He seems cautious about showing me the actual car but without seeing the title, cowl tag, and of course THE CAR, I'm not sure how this will work.

jmcarter 11-17-2017 10:53 AM

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Brian, cut your losses, this quacks like a duck....

David Lee 11-17-2017 04:46 PM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian schuetta (Post 549917)
So the latest is that there is a twist in the story. The guy sending pictures to me isn't the owner but someone selling it for the owner. So the $7500 price has this guys cut in it. I didn't connect with him last weekend as planned. He seems cautious about showing me the actual car but without seeing the title, cowl tag, and of course THE CAR, I'm not sure how this will work.

this seems to another barn find car scam.

brian schuetta 11-19-2017 08:45 PM

Re: 70 1/2 z/28
 
I will still follow the lead and try to see the car. There won't be any losses since I've had people try to scam me on titles and cars since I was 16. The original contact on this car is a legit person and I always want to look at south Texas cars because of the lack of rust on some of these vehicles. Now, that being said the car might not be numbers matching or whatever but it may still be a clean 70' Camaro. Pictures do show a little damage on one front fender behind the headlight. Will try to push this deal this week. I have requested a cowl tag picture but have not gotten one.


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