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This weekend, at Loose Rocker Promotions' American Doorslammer Nationals presented by McCarty Auto Parts, engine builder Tim Sloan drove his SS/CS to the semifinals in Sunday's FAT $5K Finale.

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Sloan was -.001 red first round, sending him to the buyback window, but came back with a .009, .007, .001 dead 0, .004 dead 1, .013, .004 dead 3, and .013 under by .001 in the semis. Recommendation: order more engine work from Sloan Racing Engines to keep the ol' man in the shop and off the race track! :p

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Brian Oakes joined us this weekend as well, with this clean Olds. (It's for sale!) He made it to Rnd 4 in Friday's FAT $5K Warmup, and then turned the reigns over to hired gun Brandon White on Saturday, who recently won the Rockingham LODRS in Brian's Camaro.

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Will Walton was running his G/CM Camaro this weekend, with a Sloan Racing Engines built crate motor.

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More money on the line again this weekend! Two $5K's plus the $20,000 to win main event, all Footbrake! (No transbrakes. No 2-steps except Stick cars. Air/Electric shifters OK.) Come join us! Info for the Fall Footbrake Frenzy is on www.facebook.com/LooseRocker and www.looserocker.com I'll bring the cookies!

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I thought that's what we did?

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And while not in a Super Stocker this weekend, it's worth noting that Timothy Fletcher absolutely CRUSHED it this weekend with the family's S/ST Nova. He had a .002 package TWICE, *and* a .003 package!

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:):):) Hey Michael...here's other "side" of coin so to speak on your posture...first & foremost...I know...you are a fine racer & good people...!!!...bearing that in mind...Tim Sloan legendary racer/engine builder...AND super guy/family...LOST in round 1...in a stock-super/stock race...you lose in round 1...you go home..the maybe "beauty" of bracket..the "BUY-BACK"...(?) his packages going forward in a word...AWESOME..on to Brian Oakes...yet again another fine racer & "cat"...didn't bring his killer Super/Stock car...BUT his turtle...imagine that...the young Fletcher...yikes acorn doesn't fall far from the tree...!!!... a very special young man...fantastic driver...what...a racing family !!!...BUT do you think motor/powertrain combo in the SS/T car was a "precise" style stock-super/stock piece ???...everyone should attend/race how & where they deem to do so...we're down to 6 or so NHRA class racing events of 24...yada-yada...it's our "choice" not to bracket race even with our slow "turtles"...with a approximate 20k...real 330hp (210 hp rated) engine package...it's either recognized stock-super/stock stuff...or move on to next category as we "see" it...when "forced" to do so...would love to go Comp racing...understand "investment" required...BUT...future does not look bright for this category at all based on event car counts...back to initial statement (s)...wishing you success in all ways possible...always...just have a different view...it's ALL good...kinda' like...mustard/sauerkraut on my hot dog...you...maybe a chili/onions "dude" !!! :):):)-Drake

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Okay. Just trying to give Tim some well-deserved props for a phenomenal driving job, and for providing some great entertainment for people this weekend.

S/ST is Super Street. I specifically said that Fletcher wasn't driving a Super Stocker. I just thought a few Class Racers might appreciate his outstanding driving, since everyone knows him and/or the family.

Sheesh.

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Really impressive packages by Mr Sloan. I had hoped to go "slumming" with you this weekend at the footbrake race Michael but my wife had other ideas, guess I will settle for Williamsburg with my family. Maybe next year.....

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:):):) I apologize to you Michael...know your heart truly in "right" place...as U well know having lived here in Carolinas' for some time...latest events...( IHRA going away on sportsman class front) so logistically EASY...ever limiting from NHRA side-actual class events (mentioned prior)...doesn't leave much of a warm/fuzzy feeling...for a bit of a "chump" like me...having invested silly money...in what was initially...thought to be secure/stable lower class stock-super/stock stuff...guess like ALL else in this life...from Elvis to British Invasion...to current...music-wise...gotta' adjust...move forward...next venue/format in drag racing...!!!...lol...sorry Michael...in no way meant to diminish your positive thoughts...stay well...:):):) Drake

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I for one appreciated the update and the time it takes to lay out a post like this. It's nice to see what's happening outside of an area closed down for the winter. Thanks Mike!

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Looks like he might have been JACKED UP ON Mountain DEW to get those lights, LOL

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I wouldn't want to race those guys with a BOX car much less my stocker

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Come on Mickey. You never scared of nuthin. I may try this weekend

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Bust their pineapple you mad hawaiian

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With the lights those guys had I would bet they had a box in the car for that race. The Sloan car is really nice.

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You can't overload a dump truck.

You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor.

You can't......................

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Yes, they did for that race. Tim tried it once before at our St. Patrick's race, but the box was bad, so he went back to the bottom like he normally does, using a blinder to block all but the bottom bulb, and was no worse than .019... just ran into the wrong guys. Like I said, it's good thing for everyone else that he doesn't get to race much!

All the bracket racers were really digging the high rpm's. No matter where you were at the track, you KNEW when Tim was up! :eek: :D

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Does anyone remember The Rope Trick?

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The Bang Button!

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Yeah, He pulled it through the internals of a button. He had it marked and could change his rt by the length he pulled through the switch. Never seen such a thing, and of course he was deadly on the tree.

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When I saw that I knew Tim was one sharp guy!

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Thanks for the post Michael! I watched this race on the live feed through out the weekend, looked like a blast! You put on a great show!

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Well all i have to say is Thank You Michael and Loose Rockers, for putting races like this on and also Peter and Klye, i have been to both of these racing, been treated well and good run races. Drake the 2 killer SS cars are apart, this is why i brought the Turtle and it is a real SS car as well and its deadly, It is going this weekend along with the stocker to the foot brake race, leaving soon, for the bang for the buck ya cannot beat these races, hope there will be alot more, Win a 20k race and it is the same as 3 National event wins, so when ya all finish fulling your guts, come to Peidmont for the footbrake races Fri/Sat/Sun, and if ya fill your gut to much, ya don't have to change classes,LOL just same old shoe polish.Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

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:):):) Hey Brian...REMISS of me to "forget" Oakes race car fleet number !!!... lol...I always root for Michael Beard...whether he's living in Ohio to North Carolina back to Ohio (as racer or promoter)...!!!...INDEED will be rooting for you as well...always ('cept if/when we race each other !!!) know you are fine racer...good people...beauty of AMERICA...we have freedom/opportunity to make CHOICES...not ALL by any means have to be same..lol...as stated previously...on the hot dog...me-mustard/sauerkraut...maybe Michael-chili/onions...you-mustard/relish ???!!!*** lol...genuine heartfelt best wishes...HAPPY THANKSGIVING...we'll be @ Mooresville testing...trying to get our old IHRA "heaps"...up to NHRA performance standards...going forward...imagine that...lol...:):):)-Drake

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Watched a little bit of the Piedmont race this weekend on MMTV (foot in cast so what else can I do) and while happy for Michael that it looked like a good turnout there didn't seem to be many class cars, perhaps 6 or 7 (?). Saw one solid red Grand Am that certainly worked like a top notch Super Stocker but not sure who it was. Kinda neat to see Herb Jr's son doing some good with an Aspen Wagon and of course that Steve Foley kid can drive anything (neither of them class cars). In any case, for the payout it certainly looked like a good race to attend before putting the car away for the winter, of course for Brian there's no good time to not race LOL. One nice thing about the foot brake/ door car bracket races is that they generally go pretty quick since you don't have the endless parade of dragsters burning across the line and such.

My only point being it looked like a well ran race with a great variety of cars (and S10's) with good payouts. What's not to like?

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Jamie Southards' FGT DragPak Duster

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Sean Conway and Bob Conway, Jr.

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Patrick Glade

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Brian Oakes

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Will Walton G/CM Camaro

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James Perrone was at a bracket race, footbraking a Super Stocker, and smiling... you can't make this stuff up! :eek: Thanks for racing with us!

Hillarey Sloan had the blue Super Stock Production Camaro out too, but I missed getting a pic.

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The Grand Am was our Gibbs Race Cars Best Engineered Car. The car is owned by Neal Church. He built the car himself, won a lot of championships, sold the car, and then later found it again in Provo, Utah, and bought it back. He made it to the 6th round in the $20K Main Event.

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Why was Jamie Southard's deep staging?

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Because she wanted to. :p It allows you to stage at a much lower RPM and find that spot on the tree that suits you best.

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Michael, I watched it as well, great show. Thank You for putting these events on it takes a huge commitment to do what you do for all of us. I hope to attend some of your events in '18 (updating my car and blowing cobwebs off of it)

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I know why it is done, but the title of this thread is you can't bracket race a super stocker (or Stocker). Racer's can't deep stage when class racing, so I was asking why someone would feel the need to deep stage their class car when they go to bracket race.

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My take on it...and I'm not a deep stager typically nor am I Jamie Southards so take it as simply my opinion:

When you go to one of these races, you're taking a bracket car. Period. If its your street truck...your SS/AH...your W/S Pinto Wagon the race you chose to attend that weekend is not a class race and therefore the rules of class racing don't apply. Since deep staging is allowed, and Jamie felt that was the best strategy for success for that combination on that weekend, my guess is that's why the car was deep staged.

Any time I go racing...no matter if its stock, a big money bracket race, or sportsman in my I6 F150...I try my best to know what the rules allow me to do and set up to be as competitive as possible within those rules. If that means deep staging when the rules allow (obviously not when racing stock), I'll adopt that strategy. No need to "conventional" stage at a race where the rules allow deep staging if I feel my best setup is deep "just because I'm in a class car"

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If I enter any bracket race my intent is to test / practice. I always stay true to S/SS staging rules.

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And that's perfectly alright! I'm just pointing out why some people might decide to deep stage a stocker.

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For a competitive advantage. In Stock, with the Turismo, I'm not allowed to deep stage and I'm not allowed to have a stripe taker. I'm fairly competitive with it in Stock, but when I bracket race it, I deep stage and use a stripe taker because I have a much better spot on the tree, and it trips the finish line consistently, which results in being much *more* competitive.

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Hi Chris!
The reason I was deep-staging this past weekend is: with the way my car is set up I struggle to get a light shallow stage footbraking. I have a pretty loose converter in the car now, and when I'm running Super Stock I use my transbrake and have no issues. Footbraking leaving at a lower rpm makes a big difference for me and 05-06 lights aren't going to cut it at these footbrake races, these guys are tough!!! So that's why I was deep staging, just trying to be a little more competitive! Hope this clears some things up