NHRA to allow any accepted engine/body combination in Pro St
 

https://www.nhra.com/news/2017/nhra-...pro-stock-2018

Chevy's in everything! I'm curious how the Manufactures feels about this?

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If the manufacturers would support the teams it wouldn't be like this. Hell now Mopar can sponsor a Dart with a "GM" engine and the fans wouldn't know the difference.

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I know if I were Ford or Chrysler, I wouldn't want word getting out that my car was powered by Chevrolet. Seems like a step in the wrong direction for the class to me, but I've been wrong before......plenty of times!

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sounds like its getting close to comp E

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Looks like the class will end up being like the funny cars. All will run the same engine no matter what body. There is no part of the engines or chassis in a pro stock car that come from the factories. Same as the rest of the pro classes including Pro Mod. Maybe it will bring some diversity in the body styles again. time will tell

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Terrible call, very sad, going in the wrong direction!!!



Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

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Remember when I told you all that Alan Johnson (T/F & FC) was going to be prepping my engines for Stock Eliminator. Well this is the beginning, first Pro Stock engines, soon it will filter down to Stock.

Can you see it now, KB motors, Gray motors, Elite motors. Lets allow Toyoto and Honda bodies with PS motors, why not.

Have you heard that Mercedes & BMW are interested in PS now. Another rumor going on is that Tesla is thinking about getting into PS with a driver less car.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA It's the future

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Pro stock was done in 2017, nothing I mean nothing will bring it back short of a complete re-do.
Another thing NHRA, says they discussed this with the Manufacturers, I am sure that was with Chevrolet only, because no one else would come, knowing what they were proposing.
Different bodies, give me a break, the only bodies that will get massaged will be Chevies by the factory, for their cars. Everyone one else will be left behind, thus Camaro only class.

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Had to double check calendar, sounds like April 1

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Current PS teams are just trying to boost the class by having fringe racers buy used Darts and then lease them motors. Stupid...but no more than Mustang and Camaro bodies on Funny cars being sponsored by the manufacturers. Geez

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I understand the purpose but I still don't like it. If there is no factory support other than Chevy, I think they should go ahead and allow more aftermarket manufacturers in. NHRA accepted heads and blocks only. Maybe catch the interest of a few head/block manufacturers other than OEM.

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I wonder how Charlie Westcott feels about the change...
Hope it doesn't hurt his program.

Mike A114
P/SA

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Exactly
I guess they got tired of factoring for Ford and Mopar.
Is Pro Stock bike next?, or is there more parity...
I think its a shame for the class.
hope it helps the cost and participation.
or could this usher in Factory Stock to a new level?

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They killed Pro Stock when they stopped racing at Divisional events....

NHRA made real racers into PROs but they never got permission from the Nitro guys.....

NHRA drag racing used to be the sport for people who loved working on and racing cars....

Now the only difference between Funny Car and Pro Stock is the fuel that they burn....

Just a body with decals and the same engine.............

Just sayin'

PS:
And I am still waiting for NHRAs 10 year, 5 year, 1 year or a even a 6 months plan..

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“The NHRA Technical Department worked very closely with the Pro Stock teams and the vehicle manufacturers in finalizing this rule change,” From the press release above.

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I agree 100%.

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Terrible decision. The NHRA will legislate Pro Stock into oblivion.

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This has become NHRAs new crate motor class

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Bob, I'm afraid they already have....

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The only ProStock teams left where Chevy I thought. RPM limit killed Dodge and when Glidden retired there went Ford. This is what NHRA wanted all along, just like NASCARS sticker cars. Soon you'll buy your engine from NHRA so no one is better than the other, simple tech, hard to cheat. My entire life of what I liked going down the toilet. I hope they do read these posts.

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Any Ford or MoPar fan who would buy into this, probably thinks John Force drives a Mustang.

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The FS cars could emerge from this after the dust settles.
There was an ad in ND a while back
Barton/ Wolkwitz COPO for 150K
Beneath it, a Comp dragster for 45K (or so)
I`m sure that COPO is a parts eater, and would cost plenty to campaign.
My point is ,who is buying that car? A select few could afford it.
Much cheaper than a Pro Stocker, and the factory is already in.
Seems like a logical choice...
Your thoughts?
Mike A114

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In my opinion,this just killed the class. Obviously,I pull for the MoPars,but with the possibility of a Dodge with a GM engine in it,just makes no sense at all.Now it will be crate motor Pro Stock. What should have happened was removing the RPM limit.

Remember years ago when NHRA made a stink about the Dodges having GM engines in them before when Dale Eicke had the MoPar deal.Now they think it's OK. And I seriously doubt MoPar went along with this new rule.

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Pro Stock? It's hard to believe, isn't it?

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I guess we'll see Chevy engines in whatever the most aerodynamic body is.

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Fs IS the new Pro Stock, whether they give them the title and prestige or not….
Original Pro Stockers built from FACTORY bodies and chassis with FACTORY engines-
BRAND IDENTITY
Current FS cars built from FACTORY bodies and FACTORY engines as produced by the big three-BRAND IDENTITY
Original Pro Stock cars LOOKED like the cars we sought and bought from our local dealers-sure ours didn’t have the big power but they looked like the racecars because they were like the racecars! BRAND IDENTITY
Current FS cars LOOK like the cars we can buy everyday down at our local dealers with one major plus-todays performance cars REALLY PERFORM! The current v6 platforms from all 3 make great power and can be driven to and on a track just as they come and be very satisfying-add the V8 muscle versions and you have real performance. Not to mention
BRAND IDENTITY!
Pro stock has been dead for me for nearly 30 years-however I follow the FS cars and all the Stock and Super Stock I can get to on my computers-cars I IDENTIFY with.
FS-ALL HAIL THE NEW PERFORMANCE CATEGORY BASED PRO STOCK!

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this could be good for dodge. maybe they will all wear an amc emblem!

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Better an AMC than Fiat....

Ron.

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I think they should of opened up the engine combos, i.e. big motors, small motors with 1 power adder, it would bring new blood into the class and actually lower the cost a little not much, but when only a handful of guys know how to make a 500 inch GM motor run it costs too much to play in their sand box. Engine though MUST be same make as body manufacturer. I hope NHRA reads this stuff.






Bret Velde
2003 SS/LA

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I may be reading something into this but it states in 2018 this will be allowed. My hope is it is a 1 year stop gap till they can get a real solution figured out.

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[QUOTE=Mike Jones;551118]I wonder how Charlie Westcott feels about the change...
Hope it doesn't hurt his program.

What program? As the old saying goes, "If he coulda, he woulda".

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NHRA already has the “real solution” in mind...and don’t think it includes PS. And Westcott is fully capable of doing anything given the time and $ he can devote to it.

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I'm sure it wasn't Chevrolet only. 100% certain.

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OK, inquiring minds want to know!

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Doesn't appear that way........

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As noted in the release, this move was suggested/endorsed by the Pro Stock team owners. It was also done with the blessing of all three US manufacturers.

Will it fix the underlying issues with Pro Stock? Hard to say at this point but I think most would agree that doing nothing isn't an option.

Also, my personal opinion is that the sky is the limit for Factory Stock racing but I think it's important to manage the growth so it doesn't get completely out of hand. I think the current (2018) format shows a lot of promise with 7 events and stand alone eliminations.

My 2cents

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I feel for him, rules keep changing on him like a women's mind in a purse or shoe store.

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So you drank the Kool aide...;) LOL... Come on, seriously?... FS will NEVER replace PS. Except for EFI all the technology came from PS. Heads, Manifold, pistons ring combos etc.. The timing of changes in PS was not good with the FS cars coming out.
How many Teams walked when the 2015/16 changes took place? I think the same thing will happen again. The sky is not falling....

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Barry you have a beautiful fast A/SA and I am only a spectator-AND-as a spectator I haven't watched ANY pro class since the mid eighties. No kool aid here-I and A LOT of people could care less about Pro Stock/Pro Mod/ TF and FC-I will take off a Thursday for the two Pomona races all the time to see -YOU! and everyone like you with a car that resembles ANYTHING I identify with. I sp[eak to NHRA (and a lot of other things out there today) with my wallet-keep racing that stocker and I will remain an enthusiast. PRO stock today? Cars that do not resemble anything on the road is just pro mod/funny car to me and many like me--what a joke

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I thank you Scott. I can appreciate that and I agree a lot has changed and its hard to identify with the new cars. I was there is the 70's, 80's, 90's, 2K and beyond. I was/ am fortunate to be involved with some great teams and cars. It is hard for me to accept the new FS cars into stock eliminator let alone the New PS class.... Nothing is stock about them but here they are.. Another thread.... I still love Pro Stock, Comp, Stock and Super Stock. I hope to see you at Pomona. Probably in Top Sportsman with my partner Jeff but not in the stocker. Closing a deal today on new property so time and money..., not allowing both... Happy Holidays
BP