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Tom Meyer 01-06-2018 10:04 AM

Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Just read the story on comption plus, what Richard Freeman has to say about the future of pro stock. I think in runs side by side with what's happening in stock and super stock as well.RICHARD FREEMAN: TIME TO GET POSITIVE ABOUT PRO STOCK. Tom

X-TECH MAN 01-06-2018 10:07 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 553127)
Just read the story on comption plus, what Richard Freeman has to say about the future of pro stock. I think in runs side by side with what's happening in stock and super stock as well.RICHARD FREEMAN: TIME TO GET POSITIVE ABOUT PRO STOCK. Tom

Stock does not exist anymore. Its a made up name for a class that NHRA just happens to run as a filler for the Fuel cars and other so called pro's.

jmcarter 01-06-2018 10:40 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Freeman lost a lot of credibility in my book over the whole Mopar deal. If Pro Stock is in a sad state it's because he helped make it that way. The 'any body' rule is just a cheap ploy to lease engines so that they can continue to exist a bit longer.

As for CP, they're running a poll about making National Events two day affairs. Gee, wonder who would suffer under that plan? It's not hard to see NHRA doing exactly that....Fuel, Pro Mod, Factory Stock, Harley Fuel and a few other exhibition classes. Hope I'm wrong but would not be surprised.

Mike Jones 01-06-2018 10:37 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...bout-pro-stock

MR DERBY CITY 01-06-2018 11:06 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Very interesting article that revealed the NHRA not only slashed the round money but ALSO cut the winner money in Pro Stock .....WOW......and I thought they only treated stock and superstock like red headed step children........it's equal opportunity.....LOL !!!!!!!

nhramnl 01-07-2018 10:12 AM

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NHRA slashed Pro Stock round money and payouts? If that trend continues, the Pro Stocks will soon be running their qualifying sessions at midnight, right after the Junior Dragsters, snowmobiles and jet cars. You'll see them in the staging lanes, with a towel on their windshield, in hopes of being able to at least partially see where they're going, in the dew. On other occasions, they'll get called to the lanes, sit there for an hour, and then be told to go back to their pit. They'll be pitted a mile and a half from the staging lanes, in the dirt. And if the weather isn't perfect, they won't get any qualifying shots at all, so the other 198 categories at the event can get a time trial.

jmcarter 01-07-2018 10:31 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
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Originally Posted by nhramnl (Post 553195)
NHRA slashed Pro Stock round money and payouts? If that trend continues, the Pro Stocks will soon be running their qualifying sessions at midnight, right after the Junior Dragsters, snowmobiles and jet cars. You'll see them in the staging lanes, with a towel on their windshield, in hopes of being able to at least partially see where they're going, in the dew. On other occasions, they'll get called to the lanes, sit there for an hour, and then be told to go back to their pit. They'll be pitted a mile and a half from the staging lanes, in the dirt. And if the weather isn't perfect, they won't get any qualifying shots at all, so the other 198 categories at the event can get a time trial.

We been there, done that!

jmcarter 01-11-2018 02:28 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Rumor on CompetitionPlus is NHRA is planning on raising purse to $7500 for Fuel 17/18 non-qualifiers, furthermore at the expense of Pro Stock purses. Sure seems like they want Pro Stock to just go away to avoid one of those nasty little lawsuits like Pro Stock Truck. The Winternationals will be very interesting, suppose testing at Bradenton and Phoenix this month will tell who is cramming a leased GM motor from Elite or Gray into their Darts and Mustangs. The Fox coverage at the Winters won't be as interesting without a Warren Johnson to stick a microphone in front of to ask about the current state of Pro Stock...doubt the average viewer will know who Richard Freeman even is.

X-TECH MAN 01-11-2018 06:55 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 553492)
Rumor on CompetitionPlus is NHRA is planning on raising purse to $7500 for Fuel 17/18 non-qualifiers, furthermore at the expense of Pro Stock purses. Sure seems like they want Pro Stock to just go away to avoid one of those nasty little lawsuits like Pro Stock Truck. The Winternationals will be very interesting, suppose testing at Bradenton and Phoenix this month will tell who is cramming a leased GM motor from Elite or Gray into their Darts and Mustangs. The Fox coverage at the Winters won't be as interesting without a Warren Johnson to stick a microphone in front of to ask about the current state of Pro Stock...doubt the average viewer will know who Richard Freeman even is.

Top Fool and Ha Ha cars are not worth the extra money. NHRA should have put the $$$$$ into Stock, and Super Stock.

James Perrone 01-11-2018 10:33 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
I was reading on Facebook that at the Charlotte 4 wide
Nhra has invited 8 Grudge cars to entertain the crowd
The circus has now jumped the shark. Clown Cars and all
. Pro Stock doomed. No prep racing next.

Coleydog 01-12-2018 01:01 PM

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No prep racing next.

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Why do people like it? Easy to understand
Why do drivers like it? No stupid rules! Run what ya brung.
Heck they can have aftermarket heads and intakes!

Keith 944 01-12-2018 03:05 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 553537)
I was reading on Facebook that at the Charlotte 4 wide
Nhra has invited 8 Grudge cars to entertain the crowd
The circus has now jumped the shark. Clown Cars and all
. Pro Stock doomed. No prep racing next.

From what I remember Charlotte is a no prep race anyway. Lol

Mike Meier 01-13-2018 03:36 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone (Post 553537)
I was reading on Facebook that at the Charlotte 4 wide
Nhra has invited 8 Grudge cars to entertain the crowd
The circus has now jumped the shark. Clown Cars and all
. Pro Stock doomed. No prep racing next.

They already did that at the 2017 Houston national event, but they ran their deal Friday and were pitted among the sportsman racers.

Not too worried about them pushing out the Lucas Oil sportsmen racers; they make too much money on their own. Why in their right minds would they give NHRA a cut of the action when Street Outlaws and all these underground video productions give them the exposure they want?

Coleydog 01-13-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Meier (Post 553642)
They already did that at the 2017 Houston national event, but they ran their deal Friday and were pitted among the sportsman racers.

Not too worried about them pushing out the Lucas Oil sportsmen racers; they make too much money on their own. Why in their right minds would they give NHRA a cut of the action when Street Outlaws and all these underground video productions give them the exposure they want?

Plus not having some organization dictating to them on how, when and where they race.

Steve Polhill 01-15-2018 06:16 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 553131)
Freeman lost a lot of credibility in my book over the whole Mopar deal. If Pro Stock is in a sad state it's because he helped make it that way. The 'any body' rule is just a cheap ploy to lease engines so that they can continue to exist a bit longer.

As for CP, they're running a poll about making National Events two day affairs. Gee, wonder who would suffer under that plan? It's not hard to see NHRA doing exactly that....Fuel, Pro Mod, Factory Stock, Harley Fuel and a few other exhibition classes. Hope I'm wrong but would not be surprised.

Nitro, Nitro and more Nitro oh and Pro Mod.

jmcarter 01-18-2018 10:23 AM

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Elite is presumably preparing for the end of PS...

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...-pro-mod-entry

brian schuetta 01-18-2018 10:41 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Was at the Houston race last year when at least one of the Street Outlaw guys was there. The yellow Mustang, Boosted, had trouble on his first run. After they ran we went over to see the car. He had a crew member working with a lap top in the passenger seat and Boosted was under the hood. NHRA guy comes up on a scooter and says " You got 10 minutes to be at the head of the lanes ready to race" Boosted goes into an explanation of why he needs time to fix what was wrong with his first run. NHRA guy's answer? "You got 8 minutes to be at the head of the lanes ready to race" I was standing right there and had to turn around before I laughed out loud. Welcome to NHRA.

Bobby DiDomenico 01-18-2018 12:30 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 554076)
Elite is presumably preparing for the end of PS...

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...-pro-mod-entry

The last few lines quoting Erica?

Ed Wright 01-19-2018 09:54 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 553131)
Freeman lost a lot of credibility in my book over the whole Mopar deal. If Pro Stock is in a sad state it's because he helped make it that way. The 'any body' rule is just a cheap ploy to lease engines so that they can continue to exist a bit longer.

If you were in their position, and the parts you were given could not be made to make enough parts to run as fast as everybody else, you would change camps too. Who is the fast Dodge now, that wind races? Nobody wants to keep being embarrassed because somebody was nice to you.

The Freeman family is all good people. I admire them. Erica is a sweet young lady. Wish I could drive like her.

jmcarter 01-19-2018 10:55 AM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 554142)
If you were in their position, and the parts you were given could not be made to make enough parts to run as fast as everybody else, you would change camps too. Who is the fast Dodge now, that wind races? Nobody wants to keep being embarrassed because somebody was nice to you.

The Freeman family is all good people. I admire them. Erica is a sweet young lady. Wish I could drive like her.

Ed, have all the respect in the world for Erica. Just didn’t like the way the Johnsons got shuffled out on the Mopar deal. Think the 10,500 RPM limit was just as much a factor as parts but even with that Allen and Roy outran them. Never heard Allen badmouth Mopar, can’t say the same for Elite. Think the feud with the Gray camp was bad for all of them. Meanwhile the KB camp keeps rolling. In any case, when the curtain finally drops on PS there will be plenty of blame to go around and who knows what all kind of backstage crap has gone on. Just know the “any body” rule is the last straw in my book.

rognelson777 01-19-2018 01:11 PM

Re: Richard Freeman on prostock on CP
 
I think about the Alex laughlin / Tanner gray dustup.

Alex leaves Gray and goes to elite Mid Season.
Do you think Alex had any info to give to Elite. Even though he may have only been leasing engines, He can still pick up a lot of info from Gray when they are working on car in Pits and then give it too Elite.

Remember how pissed Warren Johnson was when Greg Anderson Left.

Ed Wright 01-19-2018 08:31 PM

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I seriously doubt he knew anything Elite needed to know.


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