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TERMITE S/G 2122 01-14-2018 08:05 AM

NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Well, we made it public at the NHRA Southeast Banquet a few hours ago. New for 2018, there’s an 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series at Atlanta, Rockingham, Carolina House Of Hook, Piedmont Dragway, Orangeburg, and Mooresville Dragway. Grade points. Wally Trophies. Division Championship title and invitation to the banquet at Jekyll Island. Crate Motor cars have a home. Familiar faces on the tech crew. Great race tracks! More positive news to come. Welcome to Division 2. #myracingfamily. #nhra

jmcarter 01-14-2018 09:09 AM

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Any idea what kind of program it's going to be? 2-3 index classes plus stock and super stock? Knew Carolina was coming over to NHRA, with Orangeburg in mix as well it should make for a lot of close races for the abandoned IHRA class racers. Seems like Galot would fit better than Atlanta if that's the intent, and the first recognition by NHRA for IHRA crate motor specs??

KEN BUGAJ 01-14-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 553699)
Any idea what kind of program it's going to be? 2-3 index classes plus stock and super stock? Knew Carolina was coming over to NHRA, with Orangeburg in mix as well it should make for a lot of close races for the abandoned IHRA class racers. Seems like Galot would fit better than Atlanta if that's the intent, and the first recognition by NHRA for IHRA crate motor specs??

Smart move for Div.2

DRAKE VISCOME 01-14-2018 11:25 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
:):):) WOW...if this is so...as we "see" it...based in Mooresville,N.C...this INDEED just what the doctor ordered !!!...with IHRA departure...this fills the void & more...combining that with a nice compliment of Carolina Class Racers Association events scheduled...2018...looking good for area Stock/SuperStock...racers...old adage...just when things look the "darkest"...lol...just around corner...good things can/do happen !!!...:):):) imagine that- Drake p.s. IF only Rich had ever responded to our request for NHRA Division 2 permanent numbers..we'd have in place...unfortunately he NEVER did...so we'll have our Division 1#'s in place...lol...nothing...nobodies "purr-fect" 'eh...

Bobby Butler 01-14-2018 11:52 AM

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what about the pure stock cars?

Mike Jones 01-14-2018 12:05 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Butler (Post 553715)
what about the pure stock cars?

Stock Eliminator?
Mike A114

jmcarter 01-14-2018 02:22 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Butler (Post 553715)
what about the pure stock cars?

Bobby, like the Facebook D2 page in order to get the latest, seems to be how the plan is flushed out for the time being. Assume since they're letting crate motor cars run to the IHRA specs and indexes they would also let pure stockers do likewise. Wouldn't be surprised if they get a bunch of cars if the purse seems reasonable.

Paradigm Shift 01-14-2018 02:49 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
The prudent assimilation begins and in a most innocuous way.

Ascribing the newest competitors to a less than desired format is an equitable and effective entry strategy. The competitive limitation will soon erode and be allowed to reach its full and complete 220 fathoms.

Well done indeed.

jmcarter 01-14-2018 03:14 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradigm Shift (Post 553724)
The prudent assimilation begins and in a most innocuous way.

Ascribing the newest competitors to a less than desired format is an equitable and effective entry strategy. The competitive limitation will soon erode and be allowed to reach its full and complete 220 fathoms.

Well done indeed.

No shifting paradigms or slippery slopes here, D2 just putting on a program that fits the heavily IHRA demographic that found themselves without a place to race.

HR9121 01-14-2018 03:45 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
I for one am glad Division2 and Rich stepped up to fill a void for these racers. Racers are racers no matter their class and it would be a shame for these cars to not have a venue to race. Now the question is will they show up?

M Brand 505B 01-14-2018 07:16 PM

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A wild guess that attendance will be an issue.

Ed Wright 01-14-2018 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by M Brand 505B (Post 553742)
A wild guess that attendance will be an issue.

Yes, 1/8th mile won't exactly pack them in. Why half track?

Stephen & Horace Johnson 01-14-2018 11:19 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 553759)
Yes, 1/8th mile won't exactly pack them in. Why half track?

all of those tracks are 1/8 mile...but atlanta and galot...but they all run an 1/8mile program

HR9121 01-14-2018 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 553759)
Yes, 1/8th mile won't exactly pack them in. Why half track?

Not really a big deal for around here as all the IHRA races were run 1/8 mile but I will still be curious to see if people show. They weren't turning out last year for IHRA races so it will be interesting.

Bpozzi 01-15-2018 12:42 AM

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Never fails.... NHRA does something out of the box to help advance the sport and it took less than 24hrs for the doubters and haters to start chiming in. The tracks listed on this schedule that ran an IHRA pro am / sportsman championship race had GREAT stock/ superstock turnouts (I know this because I was there supporting the tracks along with ALOT of other great racers down here).... shockingly enough it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that 1/8 is much less wear and tear on your equipment and also you have much less time to make decisions at the stripe. The racing here in the Carolinas is exciting regardless if its the stepchild 1/8mile. NHRA DIV 2, for what it’s worth, AWESOME MOVE!!! Thank you so much for creating this series and we welcome all cars to come race with us down here, like many of you said for not supporting the IHRA, you wanted that coveted WALLY, here is your shot, or is an 1/8mile Wally not as good?..... Oh, and you may even be able to keep that extra fuel jug at home.... wont need it.

HR9121 01-15-2018 01:19 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bpozzi (Post 553768)
Never fails.... NHRA does something out of the box to help advance the sport and it took less than 24hrs for the doubters and haters to start chiming in. The tracks listed on this schedule that ran an IHRA pro am / sportsman championship race had GREAT stock/ superstock turnouts (I know this because I was there supporting the tracks along with ALOT of other great racers down here).... shockingly enough it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that 1/8 is much less wear and tear on your equipment and also you have much less time to make decisions at the stripe. The racing here in the Carolinas is exciting regardless if its the stepchild 1/8mile. NHRA DIV 2, for what it’s worth, AWESOME MOVE!!! Thank you so much for creating this series and we welcome all cars to come race with us down here, like many of you said for not supporting the IHRA, you wanted that coveted WALLY, here is your shot, or is an 1/8mile Wally not as good?..... Oh, and you may even be able to keep that extra fuel jug at home.... wont need it.

Not hating at all maybe you missed post #10 but doubting, yes but time will tell. I'm wondering though sounded like this series was for crate motor cars only, not sure about that, would it draw enough cars if so? I have nothing against 1/8 mile did it most of my life but I prefer 1/4 mile so I will probably stick to the regular LORDS races because I don't have but so much time for racing anyway. I am curious if Piedmont switched to NHRA or are they just holding this as a special event since I haven't seen an announcement about changing.

james schaechter 01-15-2018 05:26 AM

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If this is like a national open where a grade point can be had, that is a plus in some cases. I am not a fan of 1/8th mile, but if the schedule works for me, I will try to support the races that I can. Having an extra grade point available could be a good deal for me.

I will also say that having a positive response like this from NHRA shows a break in their typical response, we as racers should try and reward the DD and all involved by proving them right. As was mentioned. Most of the racers that would be excluded before have some more options. That is a good move on D2’s part. I bet the idea didn’t come from Glendora.

If you have an IHRA only combo, you should be in line already to attend these races.

Nmbr1GMfan 01-15-2018 09:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by james schaechter (Post 553771)
If this is like a national open where a grade point can be had, that is a plus in some cases. I am not a fan of 1/8th mile, but if the schedule works for me, I will try to support the races that I can. Having an extra grade point available could be a good deal for me.

I will also say that having a positive response like this from NHRA shows a break in their typical response, we as racers should try and reward the DD and all involved by proving them right. As was mentioned. Most of the racers that would be excluded before have some more options. That is a good move on D2’s part. I bet the idea didn’t come from Glendora.

If you have an IHRA only combo, you should be in line already to attend these races.

They called it a national open at the banquet and did mention there would be grade points.

Ed Wright 01-15-2018 10:48 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 553765)
Not really a big deal for around here as all the IHRA races were run 1/8 mile but I will still be curious to see if people show. They weren't turning out last year for IHRA races so it will be interesting.

A couple of years ago, there were IHRA tracks around here. Most guys won't race with them. I did one year, a few years back. Small tracks I did not know existed. Nice small facilities, run by nice people. The IHRA officials were all great guys. Made some friends there. No cars. Nine Super Stock cars once. I quit trying to run with them when I won a race, and the check bounced. Tried to collect, finally dropped it in the shredder. Many of their contingency sponsors were different, almost needed two sets of decals. Many of those guys never paid up either.

I see guys talking about winning half track races as requiring sharper drivers. I found running 30 MPH slower at the strip is easier to drive the stripe, actually have more time at that speed.

Wear & tear on drive line (trans clutches, tires, things that wear) is irrelevant since most cars are in high gear before half track. Still making the same shifts. Same burn out for the tires. Half track is easier to drive. Just running along in high gear in the back half on 1/4 mile.

Mickey Whaley 01-15-2018 06:50 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Oh Lord here comes the CIRCUS????????

jim reynolds 01-15-2018 08:26 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 553730)
I for one am glad Division2 and Rich stepped up to fill a void for these racers. Racers are racers no matter their class and it would be a shame for these cars to not have a venue to race. Now the question is will they show up?

We'll DEFINATELY be supporting this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry Hill 01-15-2018 08:54 PM

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I'm confused, at Atlanta Lucas points race for SS/S do we race 1/8 or 1/4 mile? Will there be two stock champs one 1/8 and one 1/4? Who will be checking the fast burn 385 Vega for being legal for Stock. Just because I have questions does not make me against it.

Ed Wright 01-15-2018 09:05 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 553839)
I'm confused, at Atlanta Lucas points race for SS/S do we race 1/8 or 1/4 mile? Will there be two stock champs one 1/8 and one 1/4? Who will be checking the fast burn 385 Vega for being legal for Stock. Just because I have questions does not make me against it.

Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it Larry?

HR9121 01-15-2018 09:12 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 553839)
I'm confused, at Atlanta Lucas points race for SS/S do we race 1/8 or 1/4 mile? Will there be two stock champs one 1/8 and one 1/4? Who will be checking the fast burn 385 Vega for being legal for Stock. Just because I have questions does not make me against it.

Mr Larry the way I understand it these events will be completed separately on different weekends. The LODRS and one as a national open. There will be no fast burn Vegas at the LODRS race. Also there is no Lucas Oil race at Atlanta this year just the open race.

Ron Ortiz 01-15-2018 09:21 PM

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Bottom line, do you want more opportunities to race or not. If you want to be selective, or if you think your above something, if it doesn't fit your agenda, then so be it. You want to whine or be objective, OK.
It is your sport that is slowly slipping away, no matter what you think, it is not what it used to be. Do you want to race or not.
It is called competition, that is what drives most people, to compete.
I love competition, I coach football, I drag race, I love competition.
My football theory is "give me somebody to hit"
My drag racing theory is "bring me someone to race"

Ron Ortiz
U/SA what do you want to do

HR9121 01-15-2018 09:29 PM

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Everyone in D2 has been wanting Open races, so here they are. Now all we need is some major sponsor like PC Richard......maybe someone like IMH Used Parts will step up as series sponsor!

Brian Oakes 01-15-2018 10:04 PM

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Now James, this is not the OPEN we where wanting, i wanted a 1/4 mile open to set a record or 2.I travel all the way up into Canada now days to support there open races on east coast, and attempt to set records and collect on the 10k combo race, that only had 37 cars last year and the man paid it in full,as there air is good{as ya all know this cold air down here comes only from Canada,lol well that is what the weather man says lol} and that is a haul. Now for the 1/8 racing, i will support it,if i'am around at that time,i raced at all these tracks except for 1, all them good short tracks,good people and great hooking.Like Ron said it's a place to race.i hope goes over good, there is alot of cars around here to support it, they just have to come and support it. Like James said, last year not many supported the I section of the sport.Now there is alot of question need to be answered also, but i will not post it here and let the neg.people beat this to death,like it has already started.Good luck D2 and track owners. Brian

jt Teuton 01-16-2018 01:34 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
When will schedule be posted.?

KEN BUGAJ 01-16-2018 11:44 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jim reynolds (Post 553835)
We'll DEFINATELY be supporting this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All they need to do is make these races double grade points ! That will bring racers in .

KEN BUGAJ 01-16-2018 11:55 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 553839)
I'm confused, at Atlanta Lucas points race for SS/S do we race 1/8 or 1/4 mile? Will there be two stock champs one 1/8 and one 1/4? Who will be checking the fast burn 385 Vega for being legal for Stock. Just because I have questions does not make me against it.

. Larry, I'm sure NHRA knows how to tech the 385 fast burn. They can just read the specs. All the crate Motors have specs .

Mike Pearson 01-16-2018 12:21 PM

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It would be real nice to have one in the southern part of the division. Maybe Gainesville or SGMP in the fall after the 1/4 mile races are done for the year. That's when the weather is best here for racing. Late November or early December is usuall nice and cool. It's a good start for other opportunities to race our style of racing.

Mickey Whaley 01-16-2018 01:12 PM

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Looking for a jet truck anyone got a clue where to get one?

Dave Turner 01-16-2018 01:44 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Oakes (Post 553846)
Now James, this is not the OPEN we where wanting, i wanted a 1/4 mile open to set a record or 2.I travel all the way up into Canada now days to support there open races on east coast, and attempt to set records and collect on the 10k combo race, that only had 37 cars last year and the man paid it in full,as there air is good{as ya all know this cold air down here comes only from Canada,lol well that is what the weather man says lol} and that is a haul. Now for the 1/8 racing, i will support it,if i'am around at that time,i raced at all these tracks except for 1, all them good short tracks,good people and great hooking.Like Ron said it's a place to race.i hope goes over good, there is alot of cars around here to support it, they just have to come and support it. Like James said, last year not many supported the I section of the sport.Now there is alot of question need to be answered also, but i will not post it here and let the neg.people beat this to death,like it has already started.Good luck D2 and track owners. Brian

I put all 3 of the Canadian Div.1 Opens( plus the Dutch) on my calendar this year, and the good Lord willin' we'll be at each one. Hope you can make it to TMP - Cayuga in August Brian!

Chris1529 01-16-2018 02:51 PM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 553839)
I'm confused, at Atlanta Lucas points race for SS/S do we race 1/8 or 1/4 mile? Will there be two stock champs one 1/8 and one 1/4? Who will be checking the fast burn 385 Vega for being legal for Stock. Just because I have questions does not make me against it.

Not that it matters a whole lot now, but if you are talking about the same Vega station wagon that was at the last two Dragway 42 IHRA races last fall, I don't think there was much stock legal about it even if you never put the hood up.

Ron Ortiz 01-16-2018 03:52 PM

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Mickey, you looking for a Kenworth or a Peterbilt. You could go Nostalgia with a Mack or go conservative and get an Izuzu, or go progressive and get a Mercedes Benz. No matter what, you would look good in a truck especially with a jet engine. Bye bye rag top.

Now, back to our regular scheduled thread.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA air horns are cool.

TGould 01-16-2018 04:02 PM

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Good point Mike. Back in the 70s, the late November National Open at Suffolk VA was a big race.

HR9121 01-16-2018 04:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley (Post 553878)
Looking for a jet truck anyone got a clue where to get one?

I got a lead on a jet powered monster truck just call me I'll give you the info!

FLEMING 01-16-2018 10:24 PM

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Ed Wright 01-17-2018 12:13 AM

Re: NHRA 1/8th Mile Division Championship Series
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLEMING (Post 553924)
Makes about as much sense as allowing 8 second super charged mustangs and copos!!
Heck won't be long I can run my bracket car on alcohol in stock!!

Crate motor car as stock as a copo or cobra jet

Those cars were sold new like that. Yours was not.

Kenney Kelley 01-17-2018 01:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 553876)
It would be real nice to have one in the southern part of the division. Maybe Gainesville or SGMP in the fall after the 1/4 mile races are done for the year. That's when the weather is best here for racing. Late November or early December is usuall nice and cool. It's a good start for other opportunities to race our style of racing.

I agree with you Mike. Kenney Kelley


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