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Mark Yacavone 01-22-2018 06:25 PM

LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
I'm in need of 12 of the Chevrolet GM Performance lifters for a V6 project.
Part # 88958689
All I've found is sets of 16 (Scoggins-Dickey, etc.)
These could be take outs from a S/S engine, as long as they're new.
Any ideas /suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
602-769-0346
myac455@gmail.com

MR DERBY CITY 01-22-2018 07:41 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 554326)
I'm in need of 12 of the Chevrolet GM Performance lifters for a V6 project.
Part # 88958689
All I've found is sets of 16 (Scoggins-Dickey, etc.)
These could be take outs from a S/S engine, as long as they're new.
Any ideas /suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
602-769-0346
myac455@gmail.com

Yes I have a suggestion.....buy the 16 and you will have 4 spares,.....NEXT PROBLEM.......

Mark Yacavone 01-22-2018 08:29 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
For...??? Wall ornaments?
Thanks for the btt

Bob Shaw 01-23-2018 07:59 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Looks like a V/SA project.

Mark Yacavone 01-23-2018 09:30 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Shaw (Post 554398)
Looks like a V/SA project.

It does, doesn't it? But it's not. Of course that would be V/Stick anyway.
No, it's a 231 Buick. Same roller from the GM parts bin.

ss3011 01-24-2018 09:23 AM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Just an FYI , I have been rebuilding a 3800 for a Firebird street car and discovered that while the lifters look the same between the 3800 and the Chevy lifters , the pushrod seat is different . You will need about a .100 shorter pushrod if you use a Chevy lifter .

Mark Yacavone 01-24-2018 12:50 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 554420)
Just an FYI , I have been rebuilding a 3800 for a Firebird street car and discovered that while the lifters look the same between the 3800 and the Chevy lifters , the pushrod seat is different . You will need about a .100 shorter pushrod if you use a Chevy lifter .

Thanks for that info, Russ
I planned on new push rods too, ordered to the length I'll need, so we'll pick up on that, at that time.
The checking lifter we have is from an LS build too, so should be all good.

Mark Yacavone 01-30-2018 01:17 AM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Still looking....

Question for the engine builders / COPO owners }
Did all the LS COPO cars come with the close tolerance "bowtie" hyd. roller lifters ?
How about the 2018 cars, now that the rule changed?
I assume they are replaced with a solid roller for Super / Stock.

Rat Raceway 01-30-2018 01:39 AM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 554773)
Still looking....

Question for the engine builders / COPO owners }
Did all the LS COPO cars come with the close tolerance "bowtie" hyd. roller lifters ?
How about the 2018 cars, now that the rule changed?
I assume they are replaced with a solid roller for Super / Stock.

The first COPO’s came with the CTS-VR lifters made for higher RPM. Then 2nd and 3ed year cars use the Johnson lifters. Both are hydraulic. I could be wrong but don’t think the 17 or 18’s come from the Factory with a solid lifters... I could be wrong on the new setups.

If you are looking for a good cheep LS lifter the Stock LS7’s are hard to beat for the price. I would be shocked if you can find only 12 just buy 16 and call it a day.

GTOMayhem 01-30-2018 08:53 AM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
https://zzperformance.com/3800/camsh...7-lifters.html

Mark, take a look at these.

Rick Thomaosn
GTOMayhem

JRyan 01-30-2018 10:21 AM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
I agree with Ross. There are lots of guys in the LS world turning 8000 rpm with the LS7 lifters. I run them in my turbo car and also in another friends car turn over 7000 with them and have had zero issues. His car we've run an open road race with 60 miles and run a couple half mile shootouts with it as well and the lifters have been the least of our worries. They are a good affordable option.

Rick

MR DERBY CITY 01-30-2018 02:42 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 554775)
The first COPO’s came with the CTS-VR lifters made for higher RPM. Then 2nd and 3ed year cars use the Johnson lifters. Both are hydraulic. I could be wrong but don’t think the 17 or 18’s come from the Factory with a solid lifters... I could be wrong on the new setups.

If you are looking for a good cheep LS lifter the Stock LS7’s are hard to beat for the price. I would be shocked if you can find only 12 just buy 16 and call it a day.

The op has already stated he only wants to buy 12, not 16...as for as CHEEP, now you maybe onto something.....LOL.

Rat Raceway 01-30-2018 04:25 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 554814)
The op has already stated he only wants to buy 12, not 16...as for as CHEEP, now you maybe onto something.....LOL.

Well looks the OP now has what he needs... Thanks to Rick Thomaosn...

http://derbyimages.woot.com/cakalusa...p-tokprx-d.jpg

Mark Yacavone 01-30-2018 04:40 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Okay guys, My way of thinking is 1 spare or 4 spares are still not enough.
If a roller axle comes apart, you are going to need at least 12 spares for a V6.

Not looking for off shore cheap. Just trying to save my customer from buying another $80 worth of lifters that he'll never use.

Looking at Morel lifters through Bullet Cams, maybe.
What do we know about them?

JRyan 01-30-2018 05:38 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Get the genuine GM LS7's you can get a set of 16 from several different suppliers all for about $150. The car we have run the open road race with. That has 9000 miles on it now with those lifters in it making just shy of 900hp. Mine is making between 900-1000hp and it has about 1000 miles and approx 60 runs on them and look great. Realistically unless you are doing something exotic with the combo or really pushing things to the limit they'll work just fine. Yes you'll have 4 extra but for the price who cares.
I know there are several guys that run a couple different versions of the Morels but I don't have any first hand experience with them so can't add anything to that. The Johnson's are a very nice lifter but are quite a bit more expensive then the LS7's and again you'd get 16.

Rick

ss3011 01-30-2018 05:45 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Is there a reason you want to stay with a hydraulic lifter ? Solid lifters are lighter , and are now legal in Stock .

Mark Yacavone 01-30-2018 06:20 PM

Re: LS Hydraulic Rollers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 554833)
Is there a reason you want to stay with a hydraulic lifter ? Solid lifters are lighter , and are now legal in Stock .

Yes, actually there is. This little freshen up became quite a bit more involved in other areas. I plan on putting the same cam back in , in the same exact place, with the same non adjustable factory roller rockers.
The lifters have many years and many runs on them. Just looking for the peace of mind in that area.


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