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Superstock is full and just a few Stock spots left. Filled at 5 grade points.

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Drag Racing, enjoy it while it lasts.....

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can somebody explain this grade point deal please...

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If anyone is planning to withdraw please let me know, thanks.

Dennis Breeden

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https://www.nhraeventreg.com/2018relsched.html

http://promod.nhra.com/UserFiles/fil...ING_SYSTEM.pdf

https://www.nhraeventreg.com/login.asp?from=/store.asp&


First link is the schedule showing how many grade points are needed within a given time up till the Monday PM of the coming weekend's event.

Second link is how grade points are earned. Essentially earned in either Divisionals or National Opens. Those can be earned in out of division series but obviously the first opportunity to earn a grade point will be the Orlando Divisional.

Third link provides how you get registered to enter. You'll need to have an active competition number for the class you want to start earning grade points in. Your home division office can assist you if you need help for some reason. At Orlando for instance you could just show up with a legal car and get a competition number at the D2 trailer provided it doesn't require a competition license that requires the witness of licensing runs, which typically aren't allowed unless you coordinate with the division so that it can be completed on the T&T preceding the event. Would encourage you to have all of this done prior to the Divisional you're seeking to enter though.

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thankyou.

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Stock also filled at 5, A lot of racers were shut out.....

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Too easy for people to run a divisional and a national back to back, I expected this to fill quick.

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Lol.....

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The gators is a popular race with lots of history. Its also the first race of the year on the east coast so lots of the div 1 and 3 racers that have cabin fever head south to run some races down here. You pretty much have to have a minimum of 5 grade points to get in that race with the short quota that we have to deal with these days. It went from 30 to full in a little over 36 hours. the points race the weekend before does make it more interesting to people that travel a long way.

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I wrote an email to NHRA that the racers in the division should get preference over racers from other division's when the national event is in that racers division.
It's too easy to get points in D1 when you have national opens as well as points races.
I personally have to travel 200 Miles to my closest points race and it goes up in 100 mile increments to make each other race. Also, no national opens to get points at either.
I think that the entry should work with that division grade points 7 to 1 then welcome other division grade points 7 to 1. If you raced a points race in the division of the national event and it's not your home division, you get to enter as if you belong to the national event division.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

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S/S Closed @ 65, Stock Closed @ 70, and we have a bump spot in Factory
Showdown. I think we will have close to 30 in the Showdown Class.

Casey how is that going to work when I live in D 3, and race in D 2 for points?

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Are you asking HOW it works or WHY is there a grade point system?
Dan

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What you are saying is that they should shut out the racers who attend races, accumulate grade points, and are willing to travel to an event in favor of racers who only stick close to home and happen to live near the event?

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[QUOTE=Mike Pearson;554510]The gators is a popular race with lots of history. Its also the first race of the year on the east coast so lots of the div 1 and 3 racers that have cabin fever head south to run some races down here. You pretty much have to have a minimum of 5 grade points to get in that race with the short quota that we have to deal with these days. It went from 30 to full in a little over 36 hours. the points race the weekend before does make it more interesting to people that travel a long way.[/QU

So I moved from out west to TN to go to some close national events but now I will be locked out of most all of the national events cause three years ago i broke and did not get enough grade points then so now My Grade points is a 4 most likley will not getting into a National event ,wow now I have credit for a National event i could not go to and I heard the credit is only good for a year >?? interesting I am locked out big time I think especially for the lower quotas here in the East with twice as many racers than in the west I am toast .lol

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Larry, if you're a D3 racer and have raced a D2 points race, you enter as if you're a D2.

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No, that's not what I'm saying, the local division racers should get first preference, then out of division racers get to enter. All on grade points system of your division.

Why should a racer who never entered an out of division race get preference over an in division racer?

Casey Miles

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Don,
You used to be able to average the last three years points. Would that work better?

Patsy

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no it would work better the last two years, my average would be 5 out west there are not a lot of options to race for a grade point especially if you have a issue with a race car and not able to go to many points races

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I thought they already have some kind of average system for racers that a major setback, mechanical or otherwise.

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Hats off to all the present and former Champs that did not enter. They can enter the very last day even if it is closed, But it is understandable if the Champs enter some time before the last day. I remember Dan Fletcher forgot to enter until after the cut off time and NHRA would not accept his entry. Moral of the story: enter early and enter often, unless you be the Champ!

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They can average the three previous years. I asked to average the 3 years preceding my recent 4 year “sabbatical” and NHRA said no. I don’t really have an big issue with starting over, it’s “house rules” and everybody knows that going in. Or at least they should.

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I don't understand what is so difficult about the current system, or why entering a national event is viewed as some sort of birthright.

If you want to race a national, support the series to the point that you won't have a problem. If you get shut out, try harder next year or find something else to do.

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I asked if I could use the year before my 28 year "retirement". Never got an answer. :confused:

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Shouldn't a National Event include the best racers, not the racer who went to 8 races and lost in the 1st rd at them all? How about the top ten in each division gets 8 grad points. 11-20 gets 7, 21-30 gets 6 and so on. The field wouldn't fill up as fast and it would be based on accomplishments instead of location. Just a thought.

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It's easy for that response, but when your point races are hundreds of miles apart and you have to work, it's not like trying harder. I lived in D1, you can reach almost any race in just a few hours. Also, there are national opens that don't exist in many other divisions. There needs to another criteria so that the local division racer can race a national event in his "own" division.

Casey Miles
248H Stock

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"The present system of grade points and national championship points is broken" The way to race is who spends the most money in going to races and in winning the championship,.
NHRA is the only sports organization that lets "Professionals" compete against amateurs in the world > ,let the bullets fly lol

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You can attend all the races you want but if you don't make rounds you will not be a player in the National points I don't care how much money you got.
If you claim 8 races with 1st round losses you won't even make the top 200 in Stock.
I had a motor failure last year and lost a bunch of races because of the time of year it happened, got 4 grade points and right now I am shut out of the Gators. Oh well **** happens but I will keep watching and probably get in if the provisionals wait till the last weekend. Same thing has happened alot of these races fill up early but people drop.

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I agree with Casey on this. Maybe the first week or day the event opens the home division racers can enter. It just doesn't make sense for a racer from 2 k mikes away take the place of a home division racer. I had my 5 grade pioints so I got in but know a few that would like to have entered but only had 4 grade points.

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Wtf is wrong with you guys. This topic gets brought up every year. If you want to race national events then get 6 grading points. It’s that simple no one at nhra gives a **** about your schedule or how far you travel to go to get them. Quotes have been down for years now. Do you think I wanted to travel 1000 miles round trip to St. Louis last fall ? No but I know it’s going to take 4 plus to get into a few national events I wanted to attend.
The system is not broken the people that race understand it

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What Charlie Bob said.

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True. That,!!!!! Charlie Bob. On the $$$.

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Not that it matters any at this point..... but anyone who has been around long enough would remember..... before NHRA began implementing these quotas..... when fields were basically open to 128 entries..... none of this grade point stuff was an issue. You had to have at least one grade point to enter a National Event but I don't recall anyone getting shut out of a race they wanted to attend. It's the limits on entries that is responsible for this problem. Through out the 90's - before quotas - at the National meets here in the Northeast, I remember the number of SS entries being somewhere between 80 & 90 cars.... and Stock between 95 & 115. The Div 3 races were probably a bit higher than these but not by a tremendous amount.
We all know these numbers declined over time. It would be interesting to know the exact number of racers (in all the sportsman categories) who aren't getting in to national events that they would actually otherwise attend. It may not be all that many. With that data, it's possible the SRAC reps could request that quotas be adjusted so that the racers who fall into the above category would have the opportunity to get in to the one or two national meets they'd like to attend. IDK - maybe I'm totally off base here. The whole thing isn't really that important to me.... To those that it is still important to.... if you don't have the time to make it to more points meets to build up grade points.... you could consider showing up with rental car right before tech closes, pay the entry, get teched in, and turn around and go home. It's essentially buying grade points.... I personally wouldn't do it.... but if running a national event is that important to some it might be worth it.

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Charlie and James, I agree with you 100% on the present situation. But in all honesty, I think it is totally unfair. We used to go to races when there were 128 car fields. People in their home division could attend and there was plenty of room for out of division racers. Now it is a total joke with NHRA's implementation of quotas.

We should not be against each other because of NHRA's disregard of the sportsman racer. And that is what it boils down to. Why are there only limited spots available, BS, I see racer against racer due to this fiasco.

I just don't understand this nonsense. Why should any racer be relegated to this format.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA BS

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NHRA does what they want to do and they don't care if you like it or not. I went to OHIO VALLEY last year on FRI paid my money went thru tech and they took my tech card. Then late fri night NHRA loaded up and took off and said that the race never happen no grade point. They said they couldn't agree on a rain date so they said the race never happen no grade point. I wanted to go to the Gator's but only had 4 grade points to use. If they hadn't cheated me out of that grade point I would be entered now. We would have went to more races last year but couldn't. I tried to email several people but no one would return an answer. So we race in their world and they call the shots if you like it or not they really don't care.

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Most of the racers understand the way NHRA system works with Grade points ,never assume they don’t is best , but what I am confused about is the quota limit financially does not make “cents” if NHRA allowed just 100 more racers into a meet that would equal 100 more per race times 24 races so let say that each racer spends at most $500 so let me do the math 24 races times 100 is 2400 more entries at $500.00 each is 1.2 million .This is not chump change for any accountant or corporation .
If NHRA would just let 100 more racers into a meet ,let say who wins . The Racers , The Drag Strip Owners, The Sponsors, The Fans, and the Accountants of NHRA ,so can someone tell me why there is such a low Quota ???now if the quota is not changed just wait and see the entry cost will go up > I think I know the answer but I need other opinions? :confused:

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Don, you've brought up the point that I have been trying to understand for the last couple of years. Maybe someone from NHRA can explain that for us.
My friends that rope in the PRCA are facing the same problems.
Pete

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Tv ?