What does "NES" (No Engine Specifications) mean...
 

...in the classification tool?

Does it mean that the car is classified by the manufacturer's claimed horsepower, does it mean that it's not eligible for competition, or what?

I was looking at the '92-'97 "Aero" Ford Crown Victoria 4-door sedan with the 4.6 (281) V8, rated at either 190 or 210 horsepower.

Re: What does "NES" (No Engine Specifications) mean...
 

If the manufacturer did not submit the engine specs for a particular combo, then that vehicle is not eligible for competition.

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Look at the 96 Mustang, T-bird, Cougar, if you want to go that route.

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I appreciate your smarts, Mark.

Are you saying that I should look up those cars to find the engine specs to classify the '92-'97 Crown Vic, or are you saying that the Crown Vic is not eligible and I should look at a different car?

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There must be some spec that's slightly different in the big cars. You might be able to get it fixed if you had your heart set on a Crown Vic, for some reason. I was pointing out that it would be much easier to go with a body style that's already in the books.

Edit: 1995 Vic is in there @ 210 hp..Makes R/SA

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Thanks, brother. Just poking around...

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Found it. P/Q/R. I'm guessing it wouldn't be tough to make weight. It's a big luxury car- probably comes with a lot of "spare parts" that can be left off.

Anybody run one? Stainless Works makes 1-5/8"x3" headers for it. Cams are available. I think they come with an 8.8.

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There was a Cougar I think in O/SA at Bradenton NMCA..No. 1 Q. 11.88? I know nothing more about it and would want to check into it. Sound awful fast..Too fast, if you get my drift.

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I get your drift.

Lord willing, I will only have to spend the next 3 years, 4 months, and 5 days making a living confronting people who don't play life by the rules...but who's counting...

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That sucker was fast, with his 80 mm TB.

It was worth 1.2.

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No problem ,bro.
We don't have tech in NHRA anymore either.

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Definitely some engine changes for those cars in that year range. Early ones had the aluminum intake manifold with forward facing throttle body, later had a plastic intake with throttle body facing the driver side. I believe the plastic lower intake on the later ones is the same as Mustang with just the aluminum upper elbow being different to point to the opposite side. Both intakes are pretty restrictive. The plastic one also always cracked and leaked water, I don't think the updated part number with the aluminum water crossover is in the engine specs, would need to go through the process of getting that approved. There should be a cylinder head change somewhere in that year range, the ports got straighter at some point, I think around 96.

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I saw that as well.
My first thought was WOW !...that's one quick 2 valve

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I was thinking the 96 Mustang 4.6 combo was more favorable that the 91-95 combos

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Easy enough to figure this one out.
I'd like to extend an invitation to this fellow to bring that thing to the US Nationals.
There will be a fella there named Travis Miller..Long time Ford man. He'd love to check that car out.

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Oh most definitely. The one rub is the cracking intake I mentioned. I think also look at it from the respect of when they fit the same class with the same engine, hence the same weight, punching the smaller hole in the air has to be beneficial. Plus that Mustang bodystyle has so many more engine combinations if a change is ever desired.

That guy's own words in recent months on a Tbird/Cougar forum:

"it has a big cam, big intake, big compression, big heads and big cubes"

"TFS intake, TFS heads, 90mm maf, 3.5" intake tube, 75 mm throttle body (too small), Bullet custom cams, 12.5/1 comp ratio,
big bore/stroker 5.3 Liter, Eagle crank, eagle rods, SHM 1 7/8"-3" long tubes, 4500 stall converter, 4:56 gears. E-85 for fuel."

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Best running 2V 315, I mean 281, I've ever seen.

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I think worse than that, a 323. Looks like the 3.75 Eagle crank plus a 3.7 bore.