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House of Darts 03-30-2018 10:08 AM

361 2v
 
I know that the 361 4V is a good combo. While pulling parts at a salvage yard, I came across a '63 Newport 361 2v under a tarp that starts and drives with little body issues.
It can use the 915 head but the HP factor is still the same as originally listed. The 383 2V lost 25 HP and has 1.0 more compression for that same year. Yeah, it would be great to have a Chrysler in the lanes but is it do- able as a dime rocket?

X-TECH MAN 03-30-2018 01:11 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by House of Darts (Post 559524)
I know that the 361 4V is a good combo. While pulling parts at a salvage yard, I came across a '63 Newport 361 2v under a tarp that starts and drives with little body issues.
It can use the 915 head but the HP factor is still the same as originally listed. The 383 2V lost 25 HP and has 1.0 more compression for that same year. Yeah, it would be great to have a Chrysler in the lanes but is it do- able as a dime rocket?

I had one in 1965 in a Belvidere ll that ran F/SA at that time. 12.5 lb class in 1965. ......It was a dog and replaced it very very soon with a 426 street wedge. Much better piece.

GTX JOHN 03-30-2018 02:46 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
My partner John Greenwood won AHRA World Championship in 72
with a 65 Ply Wagon 361 / 2 Brl.

You could run a Holley 500 / 2 Brl. on it and that worked well in AHRA.
Though with the factory Pea Shooler in place it was a true pooch indeed!

Dan Fahey 03-30-2018 04:04 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Interesting that more 2v combinations are being considered.

Coleydog 03-30-2018 08:18 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Much bigger carb than the 318 has. All great till they start running to fast.

340Cuda 03-31-2018 01:01 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 559556)
Much bigger carb than the 318 has. All great till they start running to fast.

Was that what was called a "Ball and Ball" carburetor? Did it have a a larger top than most two barrels of the day?

John Dinkel 03-31-2018 01:12 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Stromberg and Ball and Ball were used. Don't know if one was better than the other.

Coleydog 03-31-2018 03:18 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
B&B 1-1/4 bore-1-7/16 venturi-1-3/16 273-318
B&B 1-1/2 bore- 1-9/16 venturi- 1-5/16- 361- 383 maybe 440
Holly 2210 bore -1-9/16 venturi- 1-13/32- 360-400
Stromberg was used on the 65 and back I think

Bench Racer 03-31-2018 09:42 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Not to hijack a thread, but did someone say 2bbl. ?? I love those "odd ball" combos. I gotta admit I pull for 'odd balls", 2 bbls, 4 cyl, 6 cyl, and inlnes. I miss the old days with V, W, X, Y, and Z stock in IHRA. I first started there in 1981 helping my brother with his 1958 Chevy SS Wagon. I loved the Pintos, Vegas, 303 powered Rocket 88's, and Corvairs back in the IHRA day's. Three of the "old" IHRA Stock killers with "odd balls" were Ray Head in a 1960 impala 283 2bbl., Randall Campbell (a current NHRA runner) in his inline six nova wagon, and J.T. Allan in his 200" V6 Malibu. I know Randall and Ray both won IHRA Stock Championships, and I am pretty Sure J.T. Allen got a crown also. These guys cut a 00 light every run and you could see the tail light glow as they cross the finish line. Back then It was how you drove, not how fast you ran. I for one would love to see more of these car built. I miss the diversity that was present back in the day.

GTX JOHN 04-01-2018 06:19 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
No 2 Brl. 440's as I recall.

There was a 2 Brl 400 in early 70's

X-TECH MAN 04-01-2018 06:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bench Racer (Post 559611)
Not to hijack a thread, but did someone say 2bbl. ?? I love those "odd ball" combos. I gotta admit I pull for 'odd balls", 2 bbls, 4 cyl, 6 cyl, and inlnes. I miss the old days with V, W, X, Y, and Z stock in IHRA. I first started there in 1981 helping my brother with his 1958 Chevy SS Wagon. I loved the Pintos, Vegas, 303 powered Rocket 88's, and Corvairs back in the IHRA day's. Three of the "old" IHRA Stock killers with "odd balls" were Ray Head in a 1960 impala 283 2bbl., Randall Campbell (a current NHRA runner) in his inline six nova wagon, and J.T. Allan in his 200" V6 Malibu. I know Randall and Ray both won IHRA Stock Championships, and I am pretty Sure J.T. Allen got a crown also. These guys cut a 00 light every run and you could see the tail light glow as they cross the finish line. Back then It was how you drove, not how fast you ran. I for one would love to see more of these car built. I miss the diversity that was present back in the day.

I remember catching J.T with the wrong pistons in his V-6. They were for another engine combo and had a much smaller dish C.C. volume at Bristol. He never came back and I heard he went boating. Must have embarrassed him pretty badly.....LOL
Randall and Ray always were straight shooters and were tough racers.

Steve Stasko 04-01-2018 11:13 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
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Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 559659)
No 2 Brl. 440's as I recall.

There was a 2 Brl 400 in early 70's

Correct. There were some HD-413's with two barrels in the Late-60's/Early-70's as well.

GTX JOHN 04-02-2018 12:02 AM

Re: 361 2v
 
Nothing from 413 HD above block will interchange with passenger car engines...Heads and Manifolds are way taller/Different water pump arrangement too.

Steve Stasko 04-02-2018 03:01 AM

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I know the heads, exhaust, and water pump are different...but I don't see why the intake wouldn't work unless the intake face angle is different from other RB engines?

GTX JOHN 04-02-2018 05:05 AM

Re: 361 2v
 
413HD Heads are way taller........Never tried the manifold on passenger car engine but they appear different in position.

It has been over 10 years since I sold my last 413HD!

It does not show 413 2 Brl in class guide for any vehicle.

Coleydog 04-02-2018 12:26 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 559659)
No 2 Brl. 440's as I recall.

There was a 2 Brl 400 in early 70's

Dad bought a 67 New Yorker for parts, had the 440-2 barrel, closed chamber heads (915) with the small exhaust valve, small cam. I used those heads after putting in the 1.74 ex on my 383 in the Duster.

Michael K 04-02-2018 01:19 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 559697)
Dad bought a 67 New Yorker for parts, had the 440-2 barrel, closed chamber heads (915) with the small exhaust valve, small cam. I used those heads after putting in the 1.74 ex on my 383 in the Duster.




The only mopar 2 bbl. on a RB motor I've ever seen was on the 383 RB version. A two year deal for 59-60 Windsor.

John Dinkel 04-02-2018 06:17 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
413 had a 2v on dump trucks and school busses.

Coleydog 04-02-2018 06:32 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael K (Post 559704)
The only mopar 2 bbl. on a RB motor I've ever seen was on the 383 RB version. A two year deal for 59-60 Windsor.

Got me second guessing myself now, been 48 years. Did do some checking earlier and can't find a good reference to it.

Michael K 04-02-2018 08:49 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John Dinkel (Post 559727)
413 had a 2v on dump trucks and school busses.


Yes, GTX John mentioned the industrial versions.

Michael K 04-02-2018 08:55 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 559729)
Got me second guessing myself now, been 48 years. Did do some checking earlier and can't find a good reference to it.


Could have been a transplant?

Coleydog 04-02-2018 11:25 PM

Re: 361 2v
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael K (Post 559739)
Could have been a transplant?

This was around 70-71, cheapest model, already junked.

GTX JOHN 04-03-2018 01:20 AM

Re: 361 2v
 
Perhaps.....difficult swap as engine is an inch or two wider and taller plus
manifold are totally different configuration and shape( look sort of like A engine with plug between them rather than below ). Totally different water pump setup .... high and in front of engine.


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