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MR DERBY CITY 04-21-2018 09:56 PM

Horsepower on tuesday
 
As my friend Larry Hill would say, “has anyone noticed a spike in the price of lead “. LOL. ......I believe it spiked close to the Virginia track.....

Tom Meyer 04-21-2018 09:59 PM

Re: Horsepower on tuesday
 
Are both the 14 and 15 Camaros in FS/C the same combos? Also it would be mineshaft in VA, Tom

MR DERBY CITY 04-21-2018 10:03 PM

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Soooooo, do they get HP .....TWICE ??

MR DERBY CITY 04-21-2018 10:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Meyer (Post 561313)
Are both the 14 and 15 Camaros in FS/C the same combos? Also it would be mineshaft in VA, Tom

Mineshaft doesn’t negate runs 1 20 and under....

HR9121 04-21-2018 10:19 PM

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Looks like there was a couple more trying to get some too.

Dan Fahey 04-21-2018 11:13 PM

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Over time All the FS are going to find lots of HP.
NHRA will eventually have to invent a new Class like AAAAAA/FS.
So NHRA will have the first Stockers running in the 6 second range.:D

D

Larry Hill 04-22-2018 08:12 AM

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Guess we'll find out Tuesday if they were 427 or 396, or one of each.

Brett C 04-22-2018 08:18 AM

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Could be two different engine combos. There are 430 & 450 hp models in the guide.

PLankford 04-22-2018 08:20 AM

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Same engine combo 427/450. Damage was done in Texas on Friday.... As long as the Virginia runs on Saturday weren’t faster than the Texas runs on Friday, the Tuesday result is the same....

X-TECH MAN 04-22-2018 08:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 561312)
As my friend Larry Hill would say, “has anyone noticed a spike in the price of lead “. LOL. ......I believe it spiked close to the Virginia track.....

Yes.....My ammo had gotten more expensive for my AR-15 and AR-10.

rick winchester 04-22-2018 09:16 AM

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Don't forget the I/sa dodge

HR9121 04-22-2018 10:18 AM

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Couple more weekends of good air we might get some of these hot rods straightened out!

Rat Raceway 04-22-2018 10:52 AM

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Talk about kicked in the balls! Feels like someone shot my dog...:(.

Lots of hard work down the drain for sure...

Ed Carpenter 04-22-2018 10:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 561345)
Couple more weekends of good air we might get some of these hot rods straightened out!

J Allen was 150 heavy on that run. He can go as fast as he wants. In the lanes he told me the haters were starting already. He said “I’m in the business of selling racing engines”. Exactly! I told him the only people hating are the ones that can’t go that fast. So you have two choices. Go figure out why yours won’t go that fast or call Allen.

Tom Meyer 04-22-2018 11:22 AM

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Mineshaft doesn’t negate runs 1 20 and under....
But it does take runs like -119.8 out of average. If you knew that your run does not go on your average why not see how much you got in your tank. Stock and Super Stock is still a performance based class. There is always a lot of talk of who has the fasted car on Nitro Joes pages this would be chance to get a little higher on the page. But on the down side the cars that get hit will not be happy. Tom

Dave Muller 04-22-2018 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 561319)
Over time All the FS are going to find lots of HP.
NHRA will eventually have to invent a new Class like AAAAAA/FS.
So NHRA will have the first Stockers running in the 6 second range.:D

D

I like that; sounds like the Fonz went factory stock racing.

BBF67 04-22-2018 11:58 AM

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Did the cars pass tear down?

BRINK 04-22-2018 12:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BBF67 (Post 561358)
Did the cars pass tear down?

No tear downs at a points meet unless the run made was for the records.

sskwb 04-22-2018 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rick winchester (Post 561338)
Don't forget the I/sa dodge

what combo and were?

BRINK 04-22-2018 12:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 561351)
J Allen was 150 heavy on that run. He can go as fast as he wants. In the lanes he told me the haters were starting already. He said “I’m in the business of selling racing engines”. Exactly! I told him the only people hating are the ones that can’t go that fast. So you have two choices. Go figure out why yours won’t go that fast or call Allen.

Ed, it appears that you're J. Allen's new marketing manager. Keep up the good work.

Jim Wahl 04-22-2018 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sskwb (Post 561360)
what combo and were?

It's a 318 '80 Mirada. At the D1 race in Dinwiddie,Va. Jim

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GUMP 04-22-2018 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRINK (Post 561359)
No tear downs at a points meet unless the run made was for the records.

Unless you are "special".........

HR9121 04-22-2018 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 561366)
Unless you are "special".........

Lol

road-runner 04-22-2018 01:36 PM

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There were 2 miradas in VA. An 81 in O/SA and the 80 in I/SA. According to the announcer, the O is a 318, the I is a 360. Just what I heard,

HR9121 04-22-2018 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 561351)
J Allen was 150 heavy on that run. He can go as fast as he wants. In the lanes he told me the haters were starting already. He said “I’m in the business of selling racing engines”. Exactly! I told him the only people hating are the ones that can’t go that fast. So you have two choices. Go figure out why yours won’t go that fast or call Allen.

Ed I ain't hating at all, me and Allen are friends I think. Not my combo so carrying on but looking at those weather numbers I'm pretty sure I could've went that fast if I wanted but I wouldn't, just my choice. By the way I don't claim to be real fast but all these hits people are taking I'm getting faster all the time lol.

Nmbr1GMfan 04-22-2018 02:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 561366)
Unless you are "special".........

I saw you torn down at the scales in Rockingham a couple seasons ago????

MR DERBY CITY 04-22-2018 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 561365)
It's a 318 '80 Mirada. At the D1 race in Dinwiddie,Va. Jim

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It’s a 360 Jim, and she will be a lil heavier come Tuesday......

Jim Wahl 04-22-2018 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 561385)
It’s a 360 Jim, and she will be a lil heavier come Tuesday......

Yup, you're correct sir..... on both counts! Jim


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Allen Sherman 04-22-2018 08:14 PM

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I wasn’t “trying” to get HP on the combination. I had it weighted down, timing out and other measures trying to run about 1.05-1.10 under, yes I did intend to be number one qualifier because it’s good for business. This was the 9th run ever on the car and it’s been giving us fits. It left extremely lazy and I figured no way it was going fast enough to worry. Unfortunately or fortunately, it seems maybe we fixed the problem we were having in the car and it went faster than I thought. The combination has TONS of untapped potential left so from my standpoint I’m not upset about it because I know we have more left in it, I didn’t intend to ruin it for others or anything like that, but sometimes it happens. Considering it’s been hit with 33hp before I ever touched it I’m definitely not the first one to hit it...lol

PLankford 04-22-2018 09:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRINK (Post 561359)
No tear downs at a points meet unless the run made was for the records.

Not full tear downs, but they certainly didn’t go without checking some parts...

jmcarter 04-22-2018 09:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 561385)
It’s a 360 Jim, and she will be a lil heavier come Tuesday......

Johnny Fisher’s old car, crazy fast with a Bruce Parsons bullet.

GTX JOHN 04-23-2018 01:05 AM

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If it is in I/SA........The Mirada is 360 Small Cam @ 270 HP

The same engine in my Aerodynamic Aspen Wagon is 289 HP

Charley Downing 04-23-2018 09:39 AM

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Can someone from NHRA please tell us why runs of -1.20 are not an automatic rod and piston teardown. If you single handily put power on a combination NHRA should at least take the time to check and confirm every spec on the car is correct. So far this year there have been 8 different -1.20 runs at national events and points meets and not on Rod and Piston check.

Billy Nees 04-23-2018 09:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 561451)
Can someone from NHRA please tell us why runs of -1.20 are not an automatic rod and piston teardown. If you single handily put power on a combination NHRA should at least take the time to check and confirm every spec on the car is correct. So far this year there have been 8 different -1.20 runs at national events and points meets and not on Rod and Piston check.

Charlie Bob, that's simple. NHRA won't spend the monies to have enough people on hand to handle a race as it is let alone having KNOWLEDGEABLE, HANDS-ON people capable of doing tear downs.
The capable people at VMP this weekend were too busy doing every thing else involved in putting on the race to tear down anything.
But you're right, it should be mandatory, it affects too many other people to let slide.

Charley Downing 04-23-2018 10:16 AM

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BS
At points meets it should be the head tech officials job to teardown and national events every time I ride by the tech trailer there’s alway 2-3 officials standing under the semi truck awning doing nothing. Especially on Thursday’s and fridays of national events.

Adub464Q 04-23-2018 11:28 AM

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I can only speak on behalf of the Marlow '69 camaro which added hp last week. Butch was driving it this week and they did pull him over after round 1 to check the carb and look at numbers on the intake and head.

It was probably a week late, but that did happen for the interest in fair reporting. Only the carb was taken off the car.

jmcarter 04-23-2018 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN (Post 561436)
If it is in I/SA........The Mirada is 360 Small Cam @ 270 HP

The same engine in my Aerodynamic Aspen Wagon is 289 HP

Well, that’s all changing now. Pitted next to Fisher at Atlanta a few years ago and visited with him many other times, including during his Indy class win in K when the motor had over 300 runs on it. He protected that combination well but can’t fault Parker for letting it air out.

Mark Callanan 04-23-2018 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charley Downing (Post 561458)
BS
At points meets it should be the head tech officials job to teardown and national events every time I ride by the tech trailer there’s alway 2-3 officials standing under the semi truck awning doing nothing. Especially on Thursday’s and fridays of national events.

Charlie

Thats very harsh
The NHRA tech guys from Division 1 work their asses off
Very hard working bunch all of them ......

Race Clean 04-23-2018 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Sherman (Post 561401)
I wasn’t “trying” to get HP on the combination. I had it weighted down, timing out and other measures trying to run about 1.05-1.10 under
This was the 9th run ever on the car and it’s been giving us fits. It left extremely lazy and I figured no way it was going fast enough to worry.
The combination has TONS of untapped potential left.
I’m not upset about it because I know we have more left in
Considering it’s been hit with 33hp before I ever touched it

WOW .. talk about a Car in the wrong Class!!

Charley Downing 04-23-2018 01:34 PM

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Mark for 30 plus years NHRA official's would tear down the winner and runner up at each race. So theirs tons of time after the race to teardown cars if time/man power during the race is a issue. Mark I do agree there are quite a few tech guys at the div level that bust there butts all weekend long.


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