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6130 05-08-2018 11:09 PM

Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Am I reading correctly that the Headrick engine used THREE four-barrel Holley #4210 carburetors?

Mike Jones 05-09-2018 07:30 AM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6130 (Post 562783)
Am I reading correctly that the Headrick engine used THREE four-barrel Holley #4210 carburetors?

Where did you read that?
Mike A114

Fireofficer5 05-09-2018 07:53 AM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
I saw under the hood of the pocket rocket at the 1976 race at Miami Hollywood Speedway Park.

There was three two barrels, possibly three webbers or three Holleys
cut in half.

kansas stocker 05-09-2018 10:54 AM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
I don't know what they were but there were 3 four barrel carburetors at one time.
Pete

6130 05-09-2018 06:45 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 562796)
Where did you read that?
Mike A114

Looks like an old article from PHR magazine:

https://www.12bolt.com/cotton-perry.html

Alan Roehrich 05-09-2018 06:48 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
I saw it once with what appeared to be three Weber 55 WDCOE carburetors, and once with what appeared to be three 500 cfm Holley two barrel carburetors. I never saw it with Holley 4 barrel carburetors, but that does not mean they did not try it.

6130 05-09-2018 06:52 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kansas stocker (Post 562813)
I don't know what they were but there were 3 four barrel carburetors at one time.
Pete

There were at least three Perry-Headrick #2352 H/MP Chevy II cars- the red '62-'65 car, the white '66-'67 car, and then the red '67 car that everybody remembers.

And they were constantly trying new stuff, so there were probably countless variations of those three cars.

http://www.drwebman.com/perry_headrick/

6130 05-09-2018 06:55 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Near as I can tell, the #4210 was a 585cfm 4150 originally used as the OEM carbs on the cross-ram intake for the Chevrolet 302 V8.

6130 05-09-2018 06:58 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 562850)
I saw it once with what appeared to be three Weber 55 WDCOE carburetors, and once with what appeared to be three 500 cfm Holley two barrel carburetors. I never saw it with Holley 4 barrel carburetors, but that does not mean they did not try it.

I think some of the stuff they did was to try to collect more contingency money- I don't think Weber was paying contingency money in Modified Eliminator in the '70s, so if they could figure out how to make it run the numbers with Holley carbs, they could make more money.

They had the same issue with intake manifolds, and if memory serves, they used to run completely hand-fabricated custom intake manifolds, with Edelbrock logos attached to them, in order to get paid.

Stewart Way 05-09-2018 08:38 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
I worked tech in Div. ll 1970-75 and don't remember 3x4 carbs on the car or any MP car. Rules were 2x4 or 3x2 in modified. Did notice something I didn't remember in the 1976 rulebook. It stated that on 1/1/77 modified production classes will be consolidated with the gas classes but In don't think that ever happened.

Mike Jones 05-09-2018 11:58 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart Way (Post 562859)
I worked tech in Div. ll 1970-75 and don't remember 3x4 carbs on the car or any MP car. Rules were 2x4 or 3x2 in modified. Did notice something I didn't remember in the 1976 rulebook. It stated that on 1/1/77 modified production classes will be consolidated with the gas classes but In don't think that ever happened.

My memory is not that great, but I thought MP and Gas were in the same eliminator?1?.
or were they in Comp... CRS..lol
Mike A114

Fireofficer5 05-10-2018 08:25 AM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Modified Production, Gas, Street Roadster, Modified Compact, Super Modified were the classes in Modified Eliminator.

Bunkster 05-10-2018 09:27 AM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
Call him up and ask him:

http://cottonsservicecenter.com/

SIX GUN 12-17-2018 08:56 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
1 Attachment(s)
This one had 3-4barrels..

Attachment 48188

Stewart Way 12-17-2018 09:58 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
The Vette on the magazine cover was likely a gasser. No front bumper and bumpers were required in modified. Also there was no carb limit on a gasser.

2021STK 12-17-2018 11:21 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
The Corvette does have the factory bumpers for a 1956-57.

Stewart Way 12-18-2018 12:18 AM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
You are correct. I didn't even see them at first. Still think the car was in gas and not MP though.

Timetraveler 12-18-2018 11:12 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
My brother ran H/MP and he was running three weber side drafts on his 292 in a chevy ll body. We took it to Indy one year but couldn't get by Cotton. I don't remember what year it was but there must have been 12 or 14 H cars there.

SIX GUN 12-19-2018 07:41 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
The Vette was a L/Gas car, I was showing the 3-4barrels on it..

Timetraveler
Did your brothers car have a name on it?.

Bench Racer 12-20-2018 08:09 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
I have always had love and interest in inline drag engines. Most were before my time, but I did see Ann Peto make many passes and win the IHRA Modified championship with a 300 ford in a roadster,, meanwhile back to the post. I read anything I could find on Cotton's 292c.i. Chevy deuce, he had tried 2bbls., webbers, and 4bbls. I can't remember 3x4bbls. I'm not a induction expert but I don't think a sub 300 inch engine could even use 3 390cfm Nascar 4bbls. and I don't think they were available back then. Don Jackson

SIX GUN 12-20-2018 08:17 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
2 Attachment(s)
Here's Cotton engine 3-2barrel

SIX GUN 12-20-2018 08:32 PM

Re: Cotton Perry's H/MP #2352 Chevy II(s)
 
1 Attachment(s)
Bench Racer,

John /Ann Peto


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