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GallopinGhost 07-04-2018 12:21 PM

Online source for electrical connectors
 
Getting ready to wire my car and need a good online source for elect. connectors, etc. thanks

CMcAllister 07-04-2018 01:28 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
waytekwire.com

Painter 07-04-2018 01:42 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Wherever you get your wire and connectors look at getting marine grade. The wire will have a higher strand count which makes it more flexible and will be tinned copper which prevents corrosion. And the terminals will be tinned to prevent corrosion.

Matt S 07-04-2018 02:08 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Couple more places to look also:

www.terminalsupplyco.com
www.delcity.net
www.wirebarn.com

Lew Silverman 07-04-2018 02:40 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
X2 on DelCity! Huge inventory and very fair prices!

GallopinGhost 07-04-2018 05:42 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Thanks guys, that should do it.


First off I need some kind of connector for the starter so I can put 12" or so leads on it before it goes on the engine

Ed Wright 07-04-2018 06:37 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GallopinGhost (Post 566752)
Thanks guys, that should do it.


First off I need some kind of connector for the starter so I can put 12" or so leads on it before it goes on the engine

Brian, are you talking about a connector & terminals for the wire to the small stud on the starter solenoid?

GallopinGhost 07-04-2018 07:18 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Ed, I'm looking for something like this that can stand the heat from the headers, maybe it's good enough.


https://www.cabelas.com/product/Wire...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

Ed Wright 07-04-2018 07:39 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Brian, the way I have done it for the past twenty years is to jumper those terminals on the solenoid, use a Ford remote solenoid mounted in an easy to reach place on the inner fender, or firewall. To disconnect for pulling the engine, etc, just pull the starter cable from the solenoid. The small wire to the original solenoid, of course, now goes to the new Ford solenoid. Easy to get the short cable off the Ford solenoid to pull the starter, or engine. Has worked well for me, for many years. Hope this helps.

GallopinGhost 07-04-2018 07:50 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Ed, I appreciate the info. Do you have a p/n or application for the solenoid?

Ed Wright 07-04-2018 08:16 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GallopinGhost (Post 566758)
Ed, I appreciate the info. Do you have a p/n or application for the solenoid?

Early Ford (like 1960s1970s) have a 5/16" or 3/8" stud on each side for positive Batt cable, and the cable to the starter on the other side. Some have one small terminal that connects the opposite stud when powered by the key or starter button. If the terminals on the GM solenoid are jumppered, that spins the starter. If the Ford solenoid you get has two small terminals, it's not hard to find which one energizes it. One will, the other will not.

Lew Silverman 07-04-2018 11:37 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Summit Remote Mounted Solenoid - #G1750. Comes with all the wiring you need.


https://www.summitracing.com/search/...ibanner=SREPD5



I've got one if you need to look at it, Brian. Do you come down to the car show at Hampton Roads Harley-Davidson on US-17?


Lew

Dave Gantz 07-05-2018 10:24 AM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 566757)
Brian, the way I have done it for the past twenty years is to jumper those terminals on the solenoid, use a Ford remote solenoid mounted in an easy to reach place on the inner fender, or firewall. To disconnect for pulling the engine, etc, just pull the starter cable from the solenoid. The small wire to the original solenoid, of course, now goes to the new Ford solenoid. Easy to get the short cable off the Ford solenoid to pull the starter, or engine. Has worked well for me, for many years. Hope this helps.

Putting the solenoid on the starter (and down in the heat) wasn't one of "The General's" better ideas, for sure.

GallopinGhost 07-05-2018 10:31 AM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Thanks Lew for the link. I haven't been for a long time, PM me next time you go, if it's on friday, It'll be next week before I can make it.


I think what I'll do on my car is list the electrical loads, then make a wiring diagram. Hopefully on the web somewhere is a "typical" diagram for a drag car that I can modify.

GTOMayhem 07-05-2018 10:58 AM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GallopinGhost (Post 566783)
Thanks Lew for the link. I haven't been for a long time, PM me next time you go, if it's on friday, It'll be next week before I can make it.


I think what I'll do on my car is list the electrical loads, then make a wiring diagram. Hopefully on the web somewhere is a "typical" diagram for a drag car that I can modify.


If you find a diagram, please post a link.


Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

Sean Marconette 07-05-2018 11:09 AM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
K&R Switch panel kit has all labeled wiring, connectors, heat shrink tubing and tie wraps, and is worth the money. They also have a wiring diagram if you need one.

Sean

GallopinGhost 07-05-2018 07:44 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Thanks Sean, I'll post what I come up with, should be starting in a week or so.

Ed Wright 07-05-2018 08:14 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
No offense meant, but you don't have to buy any "kits" for something that simple.

Rat Raceway 07-05-2018 10:01 PM

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Eman 07-09-2018 05:54 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
3 schools of thought when it comes to wiring GM starters. First is do it like the General designed. ARC recommends wiring like this and has their panels set up with high amperage switches. The downside is GM used 10 or 12 ga wire since the solenoid got hot and amperage draw went higher. This usually doesn't play well with micro switch most shifters use for a NS switch.
Second method uses either the old style or new style Ford solenoids. You use a heavy jumper on the GM starter solenoid and use the Ford solenoid to switch the main battery cable. this allows a smaller wire as a trigger since you're using the Ford solenoid as a relay and it doesn't require high amperage and you can mount it in a cool spot. Down side is with a permanent magnet starter motor it can at times cause starter run on and you have another set of contacts and voltage drop to the starter windings.
Third method is running the main cable to the starter solenoid with no jumper. Use a heavy duty relay or a Ford solenoid to switch the solenoid trigger wire. this way you have low amperage through your starter switch and your NS switch and then run a 10ga wire from the relay/solenoid to the starter solenoid.
They all work.

CMcAllister 07-09-2018 08:26 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
"No offense meant, but you don't have to buy any "kits" for something that simple."

I prefer to source my own components, relays, fuse panels, junctions, wire, cable, etc...and put the system together as I like. Forget finding anything worth using at the typical auto parts stores.

"3 schools of thought when it comes to wiring GM starters."

We prefer #2. Just one cable to the starter and nothing is hot unless the starter is engaged. The solenoid can be mounted at the firewall out of harm's way or inside with a pass through or quick connect.

Pay attention to the ground circuit. It's at least as important as the power side.

GallopinGhost 07-09-2018 09:41 PM

Re: Online source for electrical connectors
 
Thanks for the additional feedback. I'm still working on installing the engine, trans, etc, so I haven't really focused on the electrical yet. I have done everything in building this car from a rustbucket to a stocker, except paint and machine work, but for some reason the electrical part is my least favorite. anyway, it's a 70 challenger, 383, denso mini-starter and alternator.


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