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b.guggenmos 07-23-2018 10:03 PM

M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
Hello, I am a bracket racer but have learned a lot from this forum. I bracket race a 65 Comet with a 351C, Jerico with 3.08 first and a 4.86 gear. Leaf spring/ladder bar car. Currently runs 10.50's at 127 mph. My rear tires are probably 12 years old and pretty much done. I do not race a lot. I can only fit a 9" tire and have been using the regular 3054. I see they have a 3054 ST which is a harder compound tire.

I am trying to determine if ST tire would be better? I am also wondering why a harder compound would be more stick friendly? My local track starting line is not that great.

Any advice appreciated. Not opposed to Hoosier or Goodyear.

joe collins 07-23-2018 10:34 PM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
The ST is for a stick car

55 Chevy 07-24-2018 01:19 AM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
You want the ST's as mentioned D07 compound. I have had both M/T's and Hoosier's. Hoosiers don't leak at all. Mickey's sure do.

QUOTE=b.guggenmos;568280]Hello, I am a bracket racer but have learned a lot from this forum. I bracket race a 65 Comet with a 351C, Jerico with 3.08 first and a 4.86 gear. Leaf spring/ladder bar car. Currently runs 10.50's at 127 mph. My rear tires are probably 12 years old and pretty much done. I do not race a lot. I can only fit a 9" tire and have been using the regular 3054. I see they have a 3054 ST which is a harder compound tire.

I am trying to determine if ST tire would be better? I am also wondering why a harder compound would be more stick friendly? My local track starting line is not that great.

Any advice appreciated. Not opposed to Hoosier or Goodyear.[/QUOTE]

Don Anderson 07-24-2018 10:00 PM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe collins (Post 568284)
The ST is for a stick car

X2 !!

Dinsdale 07-25-2018 12:18 AM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
As mentioned, the ST is the tire you want and don't worry about running tubes. Also keep in mind that different brands have more or less section width with Goodyears seeming to be the narrowest for any given size. If you have a tight fit now this may make up your mind on brand.

Larry Hill 07-25-2018 06:43 AM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
The Goodyear 1909 is a big tire compared to the rest of the 9'' tires.

Dragsinger 07-25-2018 07:43 AM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
just food for thought, take a look at the Phoenix tires. They are gaining in popularity and one of the advantages, they generally have the most narrow section width of all choices.

Matt Welker 07-25-2018 08:40 AM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
You want the Hoosier stick tire that we run on stockers. It will work great on marginal tracks.

Ed Wright 07-25-2018 06:29 PM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 55 Chevy (Post 568293)
You want the ST's as mentioned D07 compound. I have had both M/T's and Hoosier's. Hoosiers don't leak at all. Mickey's sure do.

QUOTE=b.guggenmos;568280]Hello, I am a bracket racer but have learned a lot from this forum. I bracket race a 65 Comet with a 351C, Jerico with 3.08 first and a 4.86 gear. Leaf spring/ladder bar car. Currently runs 10.50's at 127 mph. My rear tires are probably 12 years old and pretty much done. I do not race a lot. I can only fit a 9" tire and have been using the regular 3054. I see they have a 3054 ST which is a harder compound tire.

I am trying to determine if ST tire would be better? I am also wondering why a harder compound would be more stick friendly? My local track starting line is not that great.

Any advice appreciated. Not opposed to Hoosier or Goodyear.

[/QUOTE]

Running radials, tubeless? Every Hoosier I've had leaked right through the sidewalls. The MTs I ran last year (I just walked out there to make sure) still have over 10 psi. I run them at 13. I have not use a Hoosier in two years, maybe that got better.

Hacksaw 07-25-2018 06:50 PM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
Ed: I have been running Hoosier radials for at least the last 10 years, and no problem with sidewall leaks

Ed Wright 07-25-2018 09:44 PM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 568398)
Ed: I have been running Hoosier radials for at least the last 10 years, and no problem with sidewall leaks

Light weight versions. I blamed it on a lack of rubber. I have a spray bottle of soapy water in the trailer. Spray the sidewalks of them and foamed everywhere. Only set I will ever own. A-B-A tested them against my MTs, both felt like dead hooking, 4 hun slower than the MTs. Three of that in 60'. Made a local bracket racer a deal on them. Two sets of MTs now.
If they are fastest for you, that's great. Besides the leaking, my car didn't like them.

Hacksaw 07-26-2018 07:56 AM

Re: M/T 3054 or 3054ST?
 
I ran the MT radials when they where one of the first to offer a wide tire suitable for SS. Trouble was that sometimes I would just spin instantly after the trans brake release. The Hoosier tires seem to be much more forgiving.


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